Stax >> any NA initiator

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ItsMeDio

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1523008100?t=3h19m5s

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cribbitercrab

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Actually, according to bcj...

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he is the best :batchest:

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X-> infinity

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APAC_jimmy

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He’s not wrong

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archetype

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Thinking Mans Valorant is good but he relies too much on numbers imo. Util impact isn't exactly quantifiable yet.

That's not to say he's wrong here, Stax is one of the best initiators in the world.

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ItsMeDio

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about BCJ btw:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1523008100?t=3h26m1s

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tbf NA is also a more competitive region than korea is

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the stat he considered the most is individual KAST, that's the best measure yet to quantify impact. It's not perfect but it's ok.

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It's a stat from CSGO, so it's not as accurate in this game - biggest difference is because of agents and their roles. e.g. In CS anyone can be a smoker, but in Valorant only Controllers have access to proper smoke abilities. As a result, KAST may be inaccurate when taking agents into account.

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Daniveus

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Ye I agree. It doesn't account for things like stalling or pressure. But it's still the best criteria we have.

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ye

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NightBeam

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Actually KAST is a pretty good stat since it shows the participation of each player in the every round.
Is the best stat to show how good a player is collectively-wise.

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It's from a different but similar game. Alfajer's KAST was mostly high 60s before he got signed to Fnatic, now it's consistently high 70s.
This is partially because Alfajer was put on Chamber duty when he was on Surreal, along with KJ/Raze. Not a perfect example but it does help illustrate my point when I say that KAST does not necessarily take into account Agents and utility because that's not in CSGO. I never said it wasn't the best we have rn tho. And I never said it wasn't good-just that it's not as accurate. Which is true.

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isnt kast suposed to tell if youre being traded correctly

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Daniveus

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KILL - ASSIST - SURVIVE - TRADE
So a player's KAST percentage is the percentage of rounds that you either Kill, assist, survive or trade. The way he explained it is "Your KAST percentage tells you how much of an asset/liability a player is for their team".

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I would take crashies over stax, but that's about it.

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maybe sacy and chronicle when they weren't washed

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asuna better (megabiased)

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asuna only had good aim

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turkey

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nah he’s a good initiator too, very flexible. obviously nowhere near stax though

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@BcJ

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Prime Crashies the most underrated initiator no cap

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Kepin

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Good. Now get into top 4. Don't fail again.