absolute banger
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Nivera
TL
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soulcas
TL
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ScreaM
TL
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Dreamas
TL
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Jamppi
TL
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nAts
M3C
|
7
6
+1
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7
8
-1
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8
6
+2
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8
3
+5
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11
5
+6
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Redgar
M3C
|
4
7
-3
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3
2
+1
|
5
7
-2
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3
4
-1
|
5
9
-4
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d3ffo
M3C
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5
3
+2
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2
7
-5
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5
10
-5
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4
5
-1
|
5
10
-5
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sheydos
M3C
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6
9
-3
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7
7
+0
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8
3
+5
|
4
6
-2
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6
7
-1
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Chronicle
M3C
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2
7
-5
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7
5
+2
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8
5
+3
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7
5
+2
|
4
11
-7
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Nivera
TL
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soulcas
TL
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ScreaM
TL
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Dreamas
TL
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Jamppi
TL
|
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nAts
M3C
|
1
1
+0
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2
1
+1
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1
0
+1
|
2
2
+0
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Redgar
M3C
|
1
0
+1
|
|
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0
1
-1
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d3ffo
M3C
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2
1
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
4
-4
|
|
2
3
-1
|
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sheydos
M3C
|
0
2
-2
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
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0
3
-3
|
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Chronicle
M3C
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2
1
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
0
2
-2
|
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Nivera
TL
|
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soulcas
TL
|
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ScreaM
TL
|
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Dreamas
TL
|
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Jamppi
TL
|
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nAts
M3C
|
0
1
-1
|
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Redgar
M3C
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0
3
-3
|
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d3ffo
M3C
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1
1
+0
|
|
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0
2
-2
|
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sheydos
M3C
|
1
1
+0
|
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1
0
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
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Chronicle
M3C
|
0
1
-1
|
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0
2
-2
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
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d3ffo
M3C
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8
|
|
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|
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33
|
1
|
0
|
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nAts
M3C
|
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7
|
3
|
1
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
78
|
1
|
0
|
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Chronicle
M3C
|
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8
|
|
1
|
|
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|
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52
|
7
|
0
|
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Redgar
M3C
|
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3
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
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|
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52
|
4
|
1
|
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sheydos
M3C
|
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6
|
3
|
|
|
1
|
|
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|
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56
|
2
|
2
|
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ScreaM
TL
|
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8
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
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51
|
0
|
0
|
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soulcas
TL
|
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7
|
|
1
|
|
2
|
1
|
1
|
|
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53
|
1
|
2
|
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Dreamas
TL
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3
|
|
1
|
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
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49
|
9
|
5
|
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Jamppi
TL
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8
|
2
|
2
|
|
|
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|
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70
|
1
|
1
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Nivera
TL
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6
|
|
2
|
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
|
67
|
3
|
0
|
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Nivera
TL
|
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soulcas
TL
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ScreaM
TL
|
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Dreamas
TL
|
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Jamppi
TL
|
|
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nAts
M3C
|
5
4
+1
|
5
2
+3
|
4
3
+1
|
4
0
+4
|
6
4
+2
|
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Redgar
M3C
|
2
4
-2
|
3
0
+3
|
2
3
-1
|
3
2
+1
|
2
5
-3
|
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d3ffo
M3C
|
3
2
+1
|
1
4
-3
|
3
5
-2
|
2
2
+0
|
1
5
-4
|
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sheydos
M3C
|
4
4
+0
|
3
5
-2
|
5
2
+3
|
3
2
+1
|
5
4
+1
|
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Chronicle
M3C
|
0
3
-3
|
3
2
+1
|
3
5
-2
|
2
1
+1
|
2
7
-5
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Nivera
TL
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soulcas
TL
|
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ScreaM
TL
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Dreamas
TL
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Jamppi
TL
|
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nAts
M3C
|
|
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
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Redgar
M3C
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
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0
1
-1
|
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d3ffo
M3C
|
2
0
+2
|
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0
2
-2
|
|
1
2
-1
|
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sheydos
M3C
|
|
1
0
+1
|
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0
2
-2
|
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Chronicle
M3C
|
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1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
0
2
-2
|
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Nivera
TL
|
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soulcas
TL
|
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ScreaM
TL
|
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Dreamas
TL
|
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Jamppi
TL
|
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nAts
M3C
|
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Redgar
M3C
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0
2
-2
|
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d3ffo
M3C
|
1
0
+1
|
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0
1
-1
|
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sheydos
M3C
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0
1
-1
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Chronicle
M3C
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|
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0
1
-1
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2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
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d3ffo
M3C
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4
Round 1
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Round 5
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Round 6
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Round 10
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29
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0
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0
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nAts
M3C
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3
Round 3
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Round 13
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Round 18
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2
Round 15
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Round 20
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1
Round 9
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1
Round 20
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92
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1
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0
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Chronicle
M3C
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3
Round 13
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Round 16
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Round 18
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39
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5
|
0
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Redgar
M3C
|
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2
Round 1
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Round 8
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57
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2
|
1
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sheydos
M3C
|
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5
Round 3
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Round 6
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Round 11
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Round 12
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Round 19
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1
Round 2
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1
Round 3
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64
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0
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2
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ScreaM
TL
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5
Round 1
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Round 4
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Round 5
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Round 13
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Round 21
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1
Round 8
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55
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0
|
0
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soulcas
TL
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4
Round 6
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Round 10
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Round 11
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Round 14
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1
Round 11
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1
Round 6
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44
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1
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0
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Dreamas
TL
|
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1
Round 14
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1
Round 15
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20
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7
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3
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Jamppi
TL
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7
Round 4
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Round 7
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Round 8
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Round 12
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Round 16
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Round 20
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Round 21
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1
Round 2
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94
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1
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1
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Nivera
TL
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4
Round 3
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Round 8
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Round 13
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Round 15
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1
Round 19
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1
Round 2
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1
Round 13
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60
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2
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0
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Nivera
TL
|
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soulcas
TL
|
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ScreaM
TL
|
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Dreamas
TL
|
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Jamppi
TL
|
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nAts
M3C
|
2
2
+0
|
2
6
-4
|
4
3
+1
|
4
3
+1
|
5
1
+4
|
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Redgar
M3C
|
2
3
-1
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0
2
-2
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3
4
-1
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0
2
-2
|
3
4
-1
|
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d3ffo
M3C
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2
1
+1
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1
3
-2
|
2
5
-3
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2
3
-1
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4
5
-1
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sheydos
M3C
|
2
5
-3
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4
2
+2
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3
1
+2
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1
4
-3
|
1
3
-2
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Chronicle
M3C
|
2
4
-2
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4
3
+1
|
5
0
+5
|
5
4
+1
|
2
4
-2
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Nivera
TL
|
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soulcas
TL
|
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ScreaM
TL
|
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Dreamas
TL
|
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Jamppi
TL
|
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nAts
M3C
|
1
1
+0
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
1
1
+0
|
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Redgar
M3C
|
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d3ffo
M3C
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
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0
2
-2
|
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1
1
+0
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sheydos
M3C
|
0
2
-2
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1
0
+1
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1
0
+1
|
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0
1
-1
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Chronicle
M3C
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1
1
+0
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1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
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Nivera
TL
|
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soulcas
TL
|
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ScreaM
TL
|
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Dreamas
TL
|
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Jamppi
TL
|
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nAts
M3C
|
0
1
-1
|
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Redgar
M3C
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0
1
-1
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d3ffo
M3C
|
0
1
-1
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0
1
-1
|
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sheydos
M3C
|
1
1
+0
|
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1
0
+1
|
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Chronicle
M3C
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0
1
-1
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0
1
-1
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2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
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d3ffo
M3C
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4
Round 1
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Round 8
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Round 11
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Round 18
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36
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1
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0
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nAts
M3C
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4
Round 1
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Round 2
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Round 6
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Round 17
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1
Round 19
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63
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0
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0
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Chronicle
M3C
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5
Round 10
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Round 12
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Round 13
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Round 14
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Round 18
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1
Round 15
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65
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2
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0
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Redgar
M3C
|
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1
Round 7
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1
Round 5
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47
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2
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0
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sheydos
M3C
|
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1
Round 16
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2
Round 4
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Round 20
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48
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2
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0
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ScreaM
TL
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3
Round 1
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Round 6
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Round 8
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47
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0
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0
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soulcas
TL
|
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3
Round 1
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Round 2
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Round 5
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1
Round 6
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1
Round 1
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1
Round 6
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61
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0
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2
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Dreamas
TL
|
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2
Round 11
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Round 18
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1
Round 20
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2
Round 18
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Round 20
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77
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2
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2
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Jamppi
TL
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1
Round 2
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2
Round 12
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Round 14
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1
Round 9
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45
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0
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0
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Nivera
TL
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2
Round 7
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Round 8
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1
Round 13
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74
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1
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0
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I was waiting for you to say this.
Just like that, just accept the FACT that Navi also played well. And it's not like if any team loses a 5v4 then they are bad. The opposite team could have a really strong retake/post plant! Plus liquid didn't actually lose the 5v4 so you can not be saying "Easy for M3C" just because liquid ALMOST lost a 5v4
Liquid have no motivation in this match
Guild secured 1st seed, Liquid secured playoffs, there's nothing they can gain
About BIG/Navi:
BIG improved a lot between 1st week and 4th week, a lot means 300% better gameplay
Liquid were 1 round away from losing to Navi multiple times, only won because of dinkzj having the worst day he could ever have, else they'd lose
The gap between M3C and TL doesn't exist, and even if it does, it leans towards M3C
I never said M3C will lose to Liquid, Gambit have defeated both times they've played Liquid and Liquid don't have an official coach rn so the match highly leans towards M3C. I was just saying that if someone's saying "Liquid almost lost a 5v4 so they won't win against M3C" then it's wrong Otherwise I am highly sure M3C will win because they need to win this
Sorry, man, I just don't like how people overrate Liquid, when they are average team with star players. I didn't say that they are bad. But they not too strong how a lot people think, like they can easily beat every team. It's just my opinion. I not try to Impose it to you.
Yea, Navi played well. I know how well they can be. But dinkzj was in very bad shape for this match. Unlucky but it is what it is. That is the only reason why I say 5v4.
And i said "easy for M3C" for support team which one I prefer more and which one I think is stronger.
Of corse Liquid can win because it's a sport. Anything can happen.
Nono! I am not saying Liquid will win. Both M3C and Liquid are struggling rn but I am sure M3C will try their hardest because they need to win this at all costs. I was just saying that if you think M3C will win only because Liquid ALMOST lost a 5v4 then that's wrong to say. Otherwise Gambit have defeated Liquid both the times they've played plus Liquid is playing with a sub so it should be a win for M3C but it's gonna be a close game
They just can't tell d3ffo to go away, he has contract, only org can terminate it, and they won't because it'd mean a necessity to pay tens of thousands of dollars for another player
My prediction: nats, sheydos, chronicle will form a core, which (+2 players) will be acquired by one of EMEA franchised teams in 2023