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SEN issues

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Hide123

The roles that SEN has don’t really make sense, I feel like they shouldn’t have moved Sick off of flex, they should’ve either kept zombs or picked up another smokes player. Tenz should be playing chamber because he’s even said himself he doesn’t like being the entry, and his raze is definitely subpar compared to other tier 1/2 players. Shahz should’ve just became the primary Jett on maps because I feel like his Jett is actually a lot better for a team like SEN than Tenz and they should have had Sick be raze on the maps that they need a raze because he has shown that he can be the sort of solo entry on raze that tenz doesn’t really seem to be good at. SENs comps right now are way out of meta, and they are running into the same challenges they faced last year before masters 1 when the astra meta was introduced and they didn’t adjust to it and bombed out the opens.

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na1ler
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teu cu

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Typer
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And shahz needs to play different agents on compi instead of spamming Jett

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jawn
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Typer [#3]

And shahz needs to play different agents on compi instead of spamming Jett

that's dumb

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jawn [#4]

that's dumb

If he never practices the agents he’s gonna play in pro games he’s obviously gonna struggle. Because SEN doesn’t really scrim so he’s barely getting any prac on the agents he’s using in pro games. That’s also why I said he should play Jett because it seems like he doesn’t enjoy playing that initiator flex role.

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Hide123 [#5]

If he never practices the agents he’s gonna play in pro games he’s obviously gonna struggle. Because SEN doesn’t really scrim so he’s barely getting any prac on the agents he’s using in pro games. That’s also why I said he should play Jett because it seems like he doesn’t enjoy playing that initiator flex role.

no matter how much we meme, they are contractually obliged to practice certain hours and they do

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jawn [#4]

that's dumb

Bro he has 26 matches with breach and 23 matches with Skye

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Man the changed comps 3x in the tournament , like you can’t just swap things around during a tournament, they need to scrim and stick to a comp they all feel comfortable. They are testing shit out during a vct qual like wtf is that

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TenZ is an excellent entry. He gets like 15+ fb every series. Getting entries isn't their problem. They just seem to play the game exactly like they used to when they used to win everything. Back then dry peaking and solo fighting and lack of good utility and teamplay wasn't really a problem for them because they were just individually the best. But now there are way better teams that punish such mistakes and individual players that can match up to them. They need a complete reset on their culture and protocols that they have.

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KnoobDude [#8]

Man the changed comps 3x in the tournament , like you can’t just swap things around during a tournament, they need to scrim and stick to a comp they all feel comfortable. They are testing shit out during a vct qual like wtf is that

i swear they got slandered for doing the opposite before lmaoo

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SicK's controller is good and he is getting better. They need more time on the server together to build team chemistry and have better reads. ShahZam is holding them back big time.

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Hide123
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h9zard [#9]

TenZ is an excellent entry. He gets like 15+ fb every series. Getting entries isn't their problem. They just seem to play the game exactly like they used to when they used to win everything. Back then dry peaking and solo fighting and lack of good utility and teamplay wasn't really a problem for them because they were just individually the best. But now there are way better teams that punish such mistakes and individual players that can match up to them. They need a complete reset on their culture and protocols that they have.

Tenz is a fantastic player, but the fb thing happens mainly because he is their only duelist so he will usually be the person who takes fights at the beginning of rounds, especially since the way SEN is built they try to support Tenz in his opening engagements. SENs problem is that because of this they are putting too much focus into the “Tenz go kill” whereas if the roles change Shahzam and Sick could become more helpful in actually entering the site, because right now it’s just Tenz trying to rush in alone to create space and dying. You get what I mean?

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h9zard [#9]

TenZ is an excellent entry. He gets like 15+ fb every series. Getting entries isn't their problem. They just seem to play the game exactly like they used to when they used to win everything. Back then dry peaking and solo fighting and lack of good utility and teamplay wasn't really a problem for them because they were just individually the best. But now there are way better teams that punish such mistakes and individual players that can match up to them. They need a complete reset on their culture and protocols that they have.

It's a problem when you rely on a single player for all the entries. yes he gets FB but it's not helpful to lose a carry player so early. If SEN had better setup plays and utility chains+combos, better trading, site could be taken a lot easily.

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yep you have the solution idk why they didnt come to you for advice in the first place

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Hide123
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SaltyMcNulty [#11]

SicK's controller is good and he is getting better. They need more time on the server together to build team chemistry and have better reads. ShahZam is holding them back big time.

Nah I think Shahzam is a good player it’s just he doesn’t like his current role. And I don’t think Sick is that good as a controller he’s just a great player. He’s mainly using his abilities for himself which is why his stats are so good, it reminds me how Nitr0 would play on 100T, but Sick isn’t really using his abilities for his team

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Amok [#14]

yep you have the solution idk why they didnt come to you for advice in the first place

Just offering my opinion on why have problems bro, just like everyone on the site

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h9zard
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Hide123 [#12]

Tenz is a fantastic player, but the fb thing happens mainly because he is their only duelist so he will usually be the person who takes fights at the beginning of rounds, especially since the way SEN is built they try to support Tenz in his opening engagements. SENs problem is that because of this they are putting too much focus into the “Tenz go kill” whereas if the roles change Shahzam and Sick could become more helpful in actually entering the site, because right now it’s just Tenz trying to rush in alone to create space and dying. You get what I mean?

I get what you mean but that I'm saying that isn't their biggest problem. They win so many rounds on attack because TenZ gets those entries. They struggled on defense more than their attack. That doesn't have anything to do with TenZ's role. They just doesn't have any proper setups or gameplan to counter what the enemies are doing. And the trading being bad, so many dry peaks and ego swings trying to get something done alone isn't gonna cut it.

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jawn [#10]

i swear they got slandered for doing the opposite before lmaoo

They got flamed for doing it despite the meta drastically shifting towards astra/viper and not adapting well to it. It's much different when its a period of 3 days versus 3 months

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Fizz12 [#18]

They got flamed for doing it despite the meta drastically shifting towards astra/viper and not adapting well to it. It's much different when its a period of 3 days versus 3 months

they were on top of the double controller meta tho

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