KRU
2-1
EZ
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
10
7
+3
|
6
7
-1
|
4
7
-3
|
4
8
-4
|
8
5
+3
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
7
8
-1
|
7
8
-1
|
6
11
-5
|
9
5
+4
|
6
6
+0
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
2
10
-8
|
4
8
-4
|
4
10
-6
|
7
9
-2
|
9
3
+6
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
6
9
-3
|
7
7
+0
|
6
5
+1
|
3
8
-5
|
5
7
-2
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
7
5
+2
|
8
7
+1
|
8
8
+0
|
8
10
-2
|
5
6
-1
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
5
3
+2
|
1
2
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
2
-2
|
0
2
-2
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
2
2
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
2
1
+1
|
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
0
2
-2
|
|
|
|
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
2
1
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
3
4
-1
|
0
2
-2
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
2
3
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
2
3
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
0
3
-3
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
|
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
0
4
-4
|
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
1
3
-2
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
|
8
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
1
|
0
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
|
8
|
4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
43
|
1
|
0
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
|
9
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
51
|
4
|
0
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
|
4
|
1
|
1
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
43
|
5
|
1
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
|
3
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
43
|
3
|
1
|
ScreaM
TL
|
|
7
|
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
50
|
4
|
1
|
L1NK
TL
|
|
9
|
2
|
1
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
69
|
7
|
0
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
2
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
53
|
0
|
0
|
Jamppi
TL
|
|
6
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
59
|
2
|
4
|
Nivera
TL
|
|
6
|
2
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
2
|
2
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
1
2
-1
|
1
2
-1
|
2
2
+0
|
1
5
-4
|
3
4
-1
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
2
3
-1
|
1
3
-2
|
3
4
-1
|
3
2
+1
|
2
2
+0
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
1
6
-5
|
1
3
-2
|
1
2
-1
|
3
1
+2
|
4
2
+2
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
4
5
-1
|
4
2
+2
|
1
2
-1
|
0
2
-2
|
1
3
-2
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
1
3
-2
|
3
3
+0
|
1
2
-1
|
2
4
-2
|
1
3
-2
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
2
-2
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
1
1
+0
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
|
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
1
3
-2
|
0
1
-1
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
|
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
1
1
+0
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
|
2
Round 2
soulcas
L1NK
Round 8
ScreaM
soulcas
|
1
Round 17
soulcas
Jamppi
L1NK
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
31
|
0
|
0
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
|
3
Round 1
ScreaM
soulcas
Round 4
Nivera
ScreaM
Round 8
Nivera
L1NK
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
34
|
0
|
0
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
|
3
Round 2
Nivera
ScreaM
Round 9
Jamppi
L1NK
Round 13
Nivera
L1NK
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
57
|
2
|
0
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
|
2
Round 10
ScreaM
Jamppi
Round 16
L1NK
ScreaM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
1
|
1
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
|
2
Round 1
Nivera
Jamppi
Round 18
soulcas
L1NK
|
1
Round 9
Nivera
soulcas
ScreaM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
43
|
1
|
0
|
ScreaM
TL
|
|
2
Round 5
keznit
delz1k
Round 13
NagZ
Mazino
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
49
|
0
|
0
|
L1NK
TL
|
|
2
Round 10
keznit
delz1k
Round 16
NagZ
delz1k
|
1
Round 11
Mazino
delz1k
Klaus
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
71
|
5
|
0
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
1
Round 11
keznit
NagZ
|
2
Round 10
NagZ
Klaus
Mazino
Round 17
keznit
Mazino
delz1k
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
59
|
0
|
0
|
Jamppi
TL
|
|
4
Round 5
Mazino
Klaus
Round 7
keznit
Mazino
Round 12
NagZ
Mazino
Round 13
Klaus
delz1k
|
1
Round 18
delz1k
Klaus
Mazino
|
1
Round 3
keznit
Klaus
delz1k
Mazino
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
74
|
2
|
3
|
Nivera
TL
|
|
2
Round 7
delz1k
Klaus
Round 12
keznit
delz1k
|
1
Round 15
NagZ
keznit
Klaus
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
0
|
1
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
9
5
+4
|
5
5
+0
|
2
5
-3
|
3
3
+0
|
5
1
+4
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
5
5
+0
|
6
5
+1
|
3
7
-4
|
6
3
+3
|
4
4
+0
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
1
4
-3
|
3
5
-2
|
3
8
-5
|
4
8
-4
|
5
1
+4
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
2
4
-2
|
3
5
-2
|
5
3
+2
|
3
6
-3
|
4
4
+0
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
6
2
+4
|
5
4
+1
|
7
6
+1
|
6
6
+0
|
4
3
+1
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
5
3
+2
|
0
2
-2
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
1
+0
|
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
0
2
-2
|
|
|
|
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
Jamppi
TL
|
ScreaM
TL
|
L1NK
TL
|
Nivera
TL
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
2
3
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
2
2
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
0
2
-2
|
|
|
|
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
|
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
|
|
|
0
4
-4
|
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
NagZ
KRÜ
|
|
6
Round 4
L1NK
Jamppi
Round 6
Nivera
Jamppi
Round 8
Jamppi
ScreaM
Round 10
Jamppi
ScreaM
Round 14
soulcas
Jamppi
Round 25
soulcas
Nivera
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
50
|
1
|
0
|
keznit
KRÜ
|
|
5
Round 2
Nivera
L1NK
Round 6
L1NK
ScreaM
Round 12
Jamppi
Nivera
Round 23
Nivera
L1NK
Round 28
L1NK
ScreaM
|
4
Round 4
Nivera
soulcas
ScreaM
Round 13
L1NK
Nivera
ScreaM
Round 22
Jamppi
soulcas
Nivera
Round 25
ScreaM
Jamppi
L1NK
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
52
|
1
|
0
|
delz1k
KRÜ
|
|
6
Round 5
Jamppi
soulcas
Round 7
ScreaM
Jamppi
Round 11
Jamppi
Nivera
Round 14
ScreaM
Nivera
Round 17
Nivera
L1NK
Round 23
soulcas
Jamppi
|
|
1
Round 1
Nivera
ScreaM
L1NK
soulcas
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
2
|
0
|
Klaus
KRÜ
|
|
2
Round 27
L1NK
Jamppi
Round 29
soulcas
L1NK
|
1
Round 17
soulcas
Jamppi
ScreaM
|
1
Round 16
Nivera
ScreaM
soulcas
L1NK
|
|
1
Round 16
L1NK
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
4
|
0
|
Mazino
KRÜ
|
|
1
Round 8
Nivera
L1NK
|
|
|
|
1
Round 12
L1NK
|
|
|
|
|
42
|
2
|
1
|
ScreaM
TL
|
|
5
Round 2
Mazino
NagZ
Round 21
keznit
delz1k
Round 23
Klaus
Mazino
Round 27
delz1k
Klaus
ScreaM
Round 29
delz1k
keznit
|
|
1
Round 9
NagZ
Klaus
Mazino
keznit
|
|
|
1
Round 9
keznit
Mazino
|
|
|
|
51
|
4
|
1
|
L1NK
TL
|
|
7
Round 10
NagZ
Mazino
Round 11
Mazino
keznit
Round 12
delz1k
keznit
Round 16
NagZ
Mazino
Round 19
NagZ
keznit
Round 21
Klaus
Mazino
Round 22
delz1k
keznit
|
1
Round 3
Klaus
delz1k
keznit
|
1
Round 5
delz1k
NagZ
keznit
Mazino
|
|
1
Round 5
Mazino
|
|
|
|
|
66
|
2
|
0
|
soulcas
TL
|
|
1
Round 3
NagZ
Mazino
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
0
|
0
|
Jamppi
TL
|
|
2
Round 2
delz1k
Klaus
Round 27
Mazino
NagZ
|
1
Round 26
NagZ
delz1k
keznit
|
|
|
|
1
Round 2
delz1k
Klaus
|
|
|
|
43
|
0
|
1
|
Nivera
TL
|
|
4
Round 10
keznit
Klaus
Round 11
NagZ
Klaus
Round 15
Mazino
keznit
Round 29
Klaus
NagZ
|
1
Round 20
Klaus
keznit
Mazino
|
|
1
Round 24
Mazino
NagZ
keznit
Klaus
delz1k
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
2
|
1
|
Solo nombraste 2 países de los 6 que oficialmente componen la región de LAS (Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay, Perú, Chile y Uruguay ) , no hay otro equipo en el torneo que sea tan poco diverso cosa muy preocupante si hablamos de una región tan grande como LATAM, y además respecto a lo de la Org argentina y eso, te digo, un equipo de esports lo hacen los jugadores, NO IMPORTA donde haya nacido el dueño o donde dicho equipo pague impuestos, es irrelevante siquiera mencionarlo, supongo que solo lo dices porque eres Argentino xd.
Liquid just has two nationalities (belgian and english)out of 30 countries, is that an underrepresentation of Europe? No.
Gambit represented EMEA (almost a third of the planet) and guess what, the five players were Russian.
Can you see how dumb is your point?
You'd love to see more LATAM countries with representation on international events? Root for Kru so you get more spots.
Buen punto, es correcto que la mayoría de equipos no están compuestos por jugadores de 5 países distintos ni siquiera en el caso de EMEA que tiene como 50 países xd , pero no me refiero necesariamente solo a eso, el caso de Kru es un síntoma de lo que ocurre en LATAM y es un problema muy serio, en la VCT LAS Stage 1 hay un 70% de representación chilena siendo que solo representan un 16.8% de la población total del servidor, ¿como se puede explicar eso?, pues LAS es una región muy injusta donde es evidente la desigualdad de condiciones competitivas que es lo único que explica dichos datos me refiero sobretodo al ping donde en chile no pasa de 20ms en la mayoría de los casos y en el resto de la región es muy normal estar entre 40-50, esta sospecha se hace mas grande cuando nos fijamos que los jugadores de Kru y Leviatan (los únicos equipos que nos representaron internacionalmente) casi todos juegan a menos de 10 de ping, diferencias que aunque parezcan mínimas se hacen enormes en niveles altos de competición, por eso digo que no representan a LATAM porque ni siquiera un jugador de distinta nacionalidad a la chilena o argentina pudo competir en el VCT LAS Stage 1, caso muy distinto a EMEA donde si se ve una mejor distribución y prácticamente ningún país supera el 20%. PD: espero que el traductor haga su mejor trabajo y me puedas entender lo mejor posible, ha sido un interesante debate, cuídate bro.
fuentes: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2022/Latin_America/Stage_1/Challengers/South
Es verdad que muchos pros migraron a Valorant en busca de mejores oportunidades, pero esto ocurrió en todos lados no solo en Chile, te voy a poner en contexto mi idea para que se entienda mejor, supongamos que cada 10 mil jugadores hay 1 que tiene el tiempo, las ganas y la habilidad para intentar llegar a ser profesional, en ese caso podemos estar de acuerdo que si un país concentra mayor población que otro entonces es más probable que tenga más jugadores que aspiren a pros, bueno entre Argentina y Peru los dos países mas grandes del servidor en términos de población, debería haber un 65.54% de la base de jugadores del servidor si lo consideramos solo como un hecho estadístico, entonces como se puede explicar que haya más jugadores pro y semipro en Chile que entre Argentina y Perú juntas? si son prácticamente 4 veces Chile en población, no me vas a negar que Argentina tiene una gran cultura de CS, creo que sin dudas es la más grande entre todos los países que hoy son LAS, cosa que les valio tener una participación considerable en nuestros torneos regionales que aunque no lo creas es menor a la chilena, ¿se entiende mi punto? Me pregunto yo, donde están los bolivianos, peruanos, uruguayos y paraguayos, aunque sea en las ligas menores, ¿acaso no existen?, ¿será que en serio no hay nivel suficiente en esos países como para competir a nivel local? o es que esta pasando algo.
Si hasta en los Open Qualifiers la presencia chilena es MUY SUPERIOR A LO NORMAL si seguimos mi ejemplo, siendo casi de un 40%, sé que hay mucho talento en la región, en todos los países, por eso me apena que esto ocurra, que ya no sea sobre habilidad y quien es mejor y que sea más sobre quien nació mas cerca de Santiago, espero que Riot arregle esto porque sino LAS será pronto solo una región con representantes chilenos.
fuentes: https://www.vlr.gg/event/845/champions-tour-latin-america-south-stage-1-challengers/open-qualifier
This is my comment in english using google translator
It is true that many pros migrated to Valorant in search of better opportunities, but this happened everywhere, not only in Chile, I am going to put my idea in context so that it is better understood, suppose that for every 10,000 players there is 1 who has the time, the desire and the ability to try to become a professional, in that case we can agree that if a country concentrates a larger population than another then it is more likely that it will have more players who aspire to be pros, well between Argentina and Peru the two largest countries on the server in terms of population, there should be 65.54% of the server's player base if we consider it only as a statistical fact, then how can you explain that there are more pro and semi-pro players in Chile than between Argentina and Peru together? if they are practically 4 times Chile in population, you are not going to deny me that Argentina has a great SC culture, I think that without a doubt it is the largest among all the countries that are LAS today, which was worth having a considerable participation in our regional tournaments that, believe it or not, is less than the Chilean one, do you understand my point? I wonder, where are the Bolivians, Peruvians, Uruguayans and Paraguayans, even in the minor leagues, do they not exist? Is it really that there is not enough level in those countries to compete locally? Or is something going on.
If even in the Open Qualifiers the Chilean presence is FAR HIGHER THAN NORMAL if we follow my example, being almost 40%, I know that there is a lot of talent in the region, in all the countries, that is why I am sad that this happens, that It's no longer about skill and who is better and more about who was born closer to Santiago, I hope Riot fixes this because otherwise LAS will soon be just a region with Chilean representatives.
sources: https://www.vlr.gg/event/845/champions-tour-latin-america-south-stage-1-challengers/open-qualifier
This is my comment in english using google translator:
Good point, it is correct that most teams are not made up of players from 5 different countries, not even in the case of EMEA that has about 50 countries xd , but I am not necessarily referring only to that, the case of Kru is a symptom of what happens in LATAM and it is a very serious problem, in the VCT LAS Stage 1 there is a 70% Chilean representation being that they only represent 16.8% of the total population of the server, how can that be explained? a very unfair region where the inequality of competitive conditions is evident, which is the only thing that explains these data. I am referring above all to the ping where in Chile it does not exceed 20ms in most cases and in the rest of the region it is very normal to be between 40-50, this suspicion becomes greater when we see that the players of Kru and Leviatan (the only teams that represented us internationally) almost all play at less than 10 ping, differences that, although they seem minimal, become enormous at higher levels. competition, that is why I say that they do not represent LATAM because not even a player of a nationality other than Chilean or Argentine was able to compete in the VCT LAS Stage 1, a very different case from EMEA where a better distribution is seen and practically no country exceeds 20%. PS: I hope the translator does the best job of it and you can understand me as well as possible, it has been an interesting debate, take care bro.
sources: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2022/Latin_America/Stage_1/Challengers/South
Liquid won't be trolling with comps, Scream will be on Jett and they'll play the most comfortable picks. The only doubt I have with Liquid is Soulcas, he hasn't performed well lately. I hope he gets his shit together and plays as he used to do. Anyways Kru2-0TL keznit gets 70+ kills in every map just wit his right hand. VAMOS KRU CARAJO