the fact these NA mfs were comparing TENZ to cNed, derke and yay is disrespectful at this point, while these player carry their teams even when they lose TENZ can't even carry his sorry ass.
a choker will always be a choker
valulrantefanboy [#2]can't blame all on him. Cned Derke yay have very good teammates that help them. while Tenz have very bad teammates, you cannot expect him to do anything more with these players
He is ass ,sit down
valulrantefanboy [#2]can't blame all on him. Cned Derke yay have very good teammates that help them. while Tenz have very bad teammates, you cannot expect him to do anything more with these players
all of them play good almost everytime no matter how well the team does
valulrantefanboy [#2]can't blame all on him. Cned Derke yay have very good teammates that help them. while Tenz have very bad teammates, you cannot expect him to do anything more with these players
bruh TENZ'S teammates are miles better than Acend's
valulrantefanboy [#2]can't blame all on him. Cned Derke yay have very good teammates that help them. while Tenz have very bad teammates, you cannot expect him to do anything more with these players
no cend derke and yay will still play well even if their team goes full pepega
dexter000111 [#6]How dare u compare Derke to TenZ
Derke is the only player itw who is a Jett god AND a Raze god
Leaf also Raze+Jett god
Shownu [#3]Firstly Derke and Cned are far far galaxy away from yay and they are a two universe away from Tenz. Derke can actually play more than 1 agent and still solo carry and Cned is just a monster on everything.
derke and cned are way better than yay? says who? average eu iq 🥱
NG1nS [#8]bruh TENZ'S teammates are miles better than Acend's
don't compare team who couldn't get to playoffs to world champion please
Danny [#11]Leaf also Raze+Jett god
Never seen leaf play raze in a match
Xeppaa is their raze player
tinted [#13]derke and cned are way better than yay? says who? average eu iq 🥱
Yay got diffed by Patiphan a part time Jett player who left VCT and is now in Overwatch. Yay doesn't even get close to Cned or Derke. Skillwise Jampii is incredibly good even though he is igl.
Shownu [#12]Ibknow its a 5v5 tac shooter but top players can get multi kills and turn things around.
i know said players are deliberately put into that role and enabled by their respective teammates, cause that's the point of the game and the roles
dexter000111 [#16]Never seen leaf play raze in a match
Xeppaa is their raze player
He doesn't watch games, just trying to hype leaf as a top player
dexter000111 [#16]Never seen leaf play raze in a match
Xeppaa is their raze player
Leaf's raze used to be cold af before Xeppa joined
Shownu [#19]He doesn't watch games, just trying to hype leaf as a top player
I do watch games, until like a month ago Leaf was their Raze player
look at stats for last 60 days bro
jawn [#18]i know said players are deliberately put into that role and enabled by their respective teammates, cause that's the point of the game and the roles
yet TENZ can't, u didn't read the thread did u?
Shownu [#17]Yay got diffed by Patiphan a part time Jett player who left VCT and is now in Overwatch. Yay doesn't even get close to Cned or Derke. Skillwise Jampii is incredibly good even though he is igl.
yes, use one performance as an argument for a player's skill. nice. derke and cned are very good but i dont see why you cant acknowledge yays skill as well.
dexter000111 [#16]Never seen leaf play raze in a match
Xeppaa is their raze player
Xeppaa's been playing Raze over Leaf recently but like a month ago Leaf was cold asf on raze
jawn [#9]It's concerning how people think someone can actually solo carry in the valorant pro-scene
.... Are u sleeping? Scream solo carried in champions
Leaf
Cned (rarely)
Sacy (before loud)
Yay (sometimes)
valulrantefanboy [#2]can't blame all on him. Cned Derke yay have very good teammates that help them. while Tenz have very bad teammates, you cannot expect him to do anything more with these players
Bad Teammates? He looks like the worst least consistent player on the team maybe bar zombs
NG1nS [#22]yet TENZ can't, u didn't read the thread did u?
because he ISN'T put into that position anymore, he has outmatched most of the listed players before when his team was actually better than theirs, did he magically become bad? no, other teams are now just simply better, TenZ and Saya are perfect examples of this.
tinted [#23]yes, use one performance as an argument for a player's skill. nice. derke and cned are very good but i dont see why you cant acknowledge yays skill as well.
Never said he was garbage but compared to Cned and Derke he is too far out matched.
valulrantefanboy [#2]can't blame all on him. Cned Derke yay have very good teammates that help them. while Tenz have very bad teammates, you cannot expect him to do anything more with these players
Tenz teammates are better than him
Shownu [#28]Never said he was garbage but compared to Cned and Derke he is too far out matched.
guess we'll have to wait and see till iceland then, if that's really what u believe.
andrewdamf [#25].... Are u sleeping? Scream solo carried in champions
Leaf
Cned (rarely)
Sacy (before loud)
Yay (sometimes)
he had 1 good series, leaf and yay were nothing before their teams got better
Shownu [#28]Never said he was garbage but compared to Cned and Derke he is too far out matched.
cned>yay>>derke, don't sleep on el diablo
jawn [#31]he had 1 good series, leaf and yay were nothing before their teams got better
??? I can see ur not really smart maybe watch yay on andbox + leaf literally first team is c9 and hes still there to this day 💀
andrewdamf [#33]??? I can see ur not really smart maybe watch yay on andbox + leaf literally first team is c9 and hes still there to this day 💀
TenZ shit on both of them did he not? maybe go back and watch it urself?
jawn [#27]because he ISN'T put into that position anymore, he has outmatched most of the listed players before when his team was actually better than theirs, did he magically become bad? no, other teams are now just simply better, TenZ and Saya are perfect examples of this.
no brother ur argument is false bcz ur thinking of that small iceland period as the norm and the rest of the year is an exception.
and he didnt outsmart shit he only played derke
again ur making the iceland period the norm mf was good for max 3 months and now for a whole year he occasionally performs while "listed players" are fucking carrying since day 1
also wtf does it mean he's not put into this position anymore, like wtf does that mean as an entry " listed players" are doing a fucking better job
man is losing aim fights with no abilities also that says a lot
just accept it he fluked iceland.
man made me write an essay to get his small brain to work
andrewdamf [#25].... Are u sleeping? Scream solo carried in champions
Leaf
Cned (rarely)
Sacy (before loud)
Yay (sometimes)
cned(rarely) are u not familiar with cned and friends
no other top team has this title u delusional kid
jawn [#34]TenZ shit on both of them did he not? maybe go back and watch it urself?
https://www.vlr.gg/17384/sentinels-vs-cloud9-blue-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-finals-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance (playing raze phase)
Now pls dont talk about things u dont know ffs
NG1nS [#36]cned(rarely) are u not familiar with cned and friends
no other top team has this title u delusional kid
Cned and friends was literally like 5 months ago wake up dumbass
NG1nS [#35]no brother ur argument is false bcz ur thinking of that small iceland period as the norm and the rest of the year is an exception.
and he didnt outsmart shit he only played derke
again ur making the iceland period the norm mf was good for max 3 months and now for a whole year he occasionally performs while "listed players" are fucking carrying since day 1
also wtf does it mean he's not put into this position anymore, like wtf does that mean as an entry " listed players" are doing a fucking better job
man is losing aim fights with no abilities also that says a lot
just accept it he fluked iceland.
man made me write an essay to get his small brain to work
lemme make this a bit more clear for you because you clearly don't have any team sports knowledge OR reading comprehension. the star duelist is the tip of the spear, when the spear itself is dysfuntional as fuck it ain't gon stab shit. That's the entirety of what i'm saying. Teammmates, strats, chemistry matter. Saya didn't suddenly become cracked adter leaving T1 he just got in a better enviroment where he was allowed to apply himself, put any top-tier talented duelist in his place the same is gon happen (TenZ on SEN, yay on NV, etc).
andrewdamf [#38]https://www.vlr.gg/17384/sentinels-vs-cloud9-blue-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-finals-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance (playing raze phase)
Now pls dont talk about things u dont know ffs
LMAO did you just link a game where sen lost 2-0 but tenz went 14-6 against Yay for real?
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#41]LMAO did you just link a game where sen lost 2-0 but tenz went 14-6 against Yay for real?
Yes? Literally proves my point
I thought u changed but your the same braindead mf damn
andrewdamf [#38]https://www.vlr.gg/17384/sentinels-vs-cloud9-blue-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-finals-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance (playing raze phase)
Now pls dont talk about things u dont know ffs
you linking games where is TenZ on the winning team getting 3 less kills than the other star duelist is comical at this point
andrewdamf [#42]Yes? Literally proves my point
I thought u changed but your the same braindead mf damn
your point makes no sense
jawn [#40]lemme make this a bit more clear for you because you clearly don't have any team sports knowledge OR reading comprehension. the star duelist is the tip of the spear, when the spear itself is dysfuntional as fuck it ain't gon stab shit. That's the entirety of what i'm saying. Teammmates, strats, chemistry matter. Saya didn't suddenly become cracked adter leaving T1 he just got in a better enviroment where he was allowed to apply himself, put any top-tier talented duelist in his place the same is gon happen (TenZ on SEN, yay on NV, etc).
i'm keeping this one simple
u said if the spear is dysfunctional it ain't gonna stab,
u just didn't read the thread i said they carry when the team is losing look at yay's stats in andbox there is no fuxking way u think the environment of andbox was better.
cNed too the man goes positive kda and mostly matxh mvp when his team lose 13-6 or something, that's what u wait of ur star duellists yet tenz isn't able to do that
jawn [#43]you linking games where is TenZ on the winning team getting 3 less kills than the other star duelist is comical at this point
Tenz fans didnt say that when tenz was "diffing" other jetts player by +1-+2 tho? 💀 Hypocrital asf bro
NG1nS [#45]i'm keeping this one simple
u said if the spear is dysfunctional it ain't gonna stab,
u just didn't read the thread i said they carry when the team is losing look at yay's stats in andbox there is no fuxking way u think the environment of andbox was better.
cNed too the man goes positive kda and mostly matxh mvp when his team lose 13-6 or something, that's what u wait of ur star duellists yet tenz isn't able to do that
BECAUSE HE ISN'T BEING PUT IN A POSITION TO DO SO? DID YOU WATCH THE GAMES???
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#44]your point makes no sense
Sure bro whatever keep sucking his dick on twitter like the mfs saying guard was cheating, Gn
andrewdamf [#39]Cned and friends was literally like 5 months ago wake up dumbass
go look at the latest matches "dumbass" i'll be waiting kiddo
andrewdamf [#48]Sure bro whatever keep sucking his dick on twitter like the mfs saying guard was cheating, Gn
ok bro💀
andrewdamf [#46]Tenz fans didnt say that when tenz was "diffing" other jetts player by +1-+2 tho? 💀 Hypocrital asf bro
so what TenZ fans say matter a lot in this convo apparently
jawn [#47]BECAUSE HE ISN'T BEING PUT IN A POSITION TO DO SO? DID YOU WATCH THE GAMES???
u can't keep writing that, bb
NG1nS [#52]u can't keep writing that, bb
you can't keep avoiding that point to say random irrelevant shit either lol
NG1nS [#49]go look at the latest matches "dumbass" i'll be waiting kiddo
Congrats. Ur really saying a team that as multiple players with mental issues is "cned and friends" when literally all recent matches he only carried against smb (literally the worst team in group stage) and the others he just got mvp because of 1+
-3 kills and some others he still got diffed too. Ur point?
FightWasTaken [#15]don't compare team who couldn't get to playoffs to world champion please
agreed, disrespectful to sen players
jawn [#51]so what TenZ fans say matter a lot in this convo apparently
The entire point of your post was proving that some players can solo carry, which happened multiple and multiple times in multiple events, i proved.
You said that tenz doenst get kills is because he is in a bad team but when others players were in shit teams they still was diffing tenz hard. I proved. What cant you accept here lmfao
tinted [#23]yes, use one performance as an argument for a player's skill. nice. derke and cned are very good but i dont see why you cant acknowledge yays skill as well.
don't argue with that Shownu guy, trust me. He is a fucking imbecile and can't think with a shred of nuance or comprehension.
andrewdamf [#57]The entire point of your post was proving that some players can solo carry, which happened multiple and multiple times in multiple events, i proved.
You said that tenz doenst get kills is because he is in a bad team but when others players were in shit teams they still was diffing tenz hard. I proved. What cant you accept here lmfao
my actual point is that TenZ isn't in a team that enables him to solo carry, the fact that i said that other teams are better doesn't mean that Sentinels are bad individually, TenZ does have a shit ton of talent on his team but they don't play as a cohesive unit, that wasn't the case with yay, he didn't have help but he did have a dedicated game plan catered for him.
jawn [#59]my actual point is that TenZ isn't in a team that enables him to solo carry, the fact that i said that other teams are better doesn't mean that Sentinels are bad individually, TenZ does have a shit ton of talent on his team but they don't play as a cohesive unit, that wasn't the case with yay, he didn't have help but he did have a dedicated game plan catered for him.
Stopped reading at "doenst mean that sentinels are bad individually" sure bro explain 0% hs rate 8/27 noone getting more than 10 kills in icebox and tenz being worse than a diamond player, im done 😂
andrewdamf [#60]Stopped reading at "doenst mean that sentinels are bad individually" sure bro explain 0% hs rate 8/27 noone getting more than 10 kills in icebox and tenz being worse than a diamond player, im done 😂
U have the hardest copium drug Ive ever seen, dont get a overdose brudda
andrewdamf [#60]Stopped reading at "doenst mean that sentinels are bad individually" sure bro explain 0% hs rate 8/27 noone getting more than 10 kills in icebox and tenz being worse than a diamond player, im done 😂
try dry-peeking 3 players like a dumbass every round and having no actual strats basides "peek - kill - win" and you'll have your explanation, atrocious game they should have deadass ff'd