"Man, we fell off" - Maxmoefoe on Cold Ones
But fr, ShahZam keeps saying "we'll fix" it and the team just does the same thing again every game. SEN's aggression and other teams' lack of strats during Iceland were probably the only reason SEN won.
Do you guys see them making a strong comeback or do they continue falling from grace?
Strong comeback when they change their mentality.
Every one of their players are amazing players(yes, even zombs) and no one should or are denying that.
Another problem I see is ZERO creativity in comps, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Every team does not need to become a Fnatic, but it would be helpful if they were not playing so restrictive and rigid comps
EDIT:as the agent pool keeps increasing, I think microadjustments in comps based on performance and other teams playstyle/comp would become more and more important
v1_wins_this_masters [#4]Strong comeback when they change their mentality.
Every one of their players are amazing players(yes, even zombs) and no one should or are denying that.
Another problem I see is ZERO creativity in comps, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Every team does not need to become a Fnatic, but it would be helpful if they were not playing so restrictive and rigid comps
EDIT:as the agent pool keeps increasing, I think microadjustments in comps based on performance and other teams playstyle/comp would become more and more important
and you think they will just suddenly change their mentality,have you seen the personalities on that team and org lmao
i think the genius of shazam igling when first game came out made other sen players ovvertated after that ppl caught up and develped while sen players cockiness made them satgnate and get destroyed , they are not the best indiviusally not even in na , after that the lack of a actual coach became apparent , i think roaster and role change is a must , also zomb need to be kicked
Im actually astonished and impressed at the same time how well shahzam has been playing for the past few months , even on champ LAN he was playing really well and i feel like Tenz was stealing all the spotlight with considerably worse performance compared to Shahz . I know people make fun of shahz for his past but he's converted his skills really well into VAL .
asdfgh [#5]and you think they will just suddenly change their mentality,have you seen the personalities on that team and org lmao
Last year they reached LANS. This VCT they reached playoffs(even sen fans must agree they aint goin to Iceland like this lol, who knows tho-new meta might shake some more things up). Next VCT they might go out in group stage/open quals. Then they either disband or "change their mentality". Realistically speaking SEN should utilize the upcoming 3 months to become.....Different
AyazHashem [#8]You guys think SEN would get any stronger if miraculously IDK, they just replaced zombs with Marved.
exponentially
AyazHashem [#8]You guys think SEN would get any stronger if miraculously IDK, they just replaced zombs with Marved.
Zombs is not the problem tho . All the braindead haters on this site don't know about Zombs past . My man used to track like an aimbot when he used to play tracer and soldier in OW . Even in apex he had top tier aim . I think he needs to try new agents . Also Zombs has the best tracking aim in SEN .
Basedobserver [#7]Im actually astonished and impressed at the same time how well shahzam has been playing for the past few months , even on champ LAN he was playing really well and i feel like Tenz was stealing all the spotlight with considerably worse performance compared to Shahz . I know people make fun of shahz for his past but he's converted his skills really well into VAL .
true he is the main reason for sen previous sucsess he is a really smart igl
v1_wins_this_masters [#10]Last year they reached LANS. This VCT they reached playoffs(even sen fans must agree they aint goin to Iceland like this lol, who knows tho-new meta might shake some more things up). Next VCT they might go out in group stage/open quals. Then they either disband or "change their mentality". Realistically speaking SEN should utilize the upcoming 3 months to become.....Different
not happening realistically but u can always hope
Are Germany a fluke for winning the world cup in 2014 but then getting grouped in 2018?
Valorant changes dramatically every major patch. You can't expect the same team to dominate through different meta's. Even when a team is on top, it's by fine margins. A change in the way the game is played resets everything.
Get over it.
Basedobserver [#7]Im actually astonished and impressed at the same time how well shahzam has been playing for the past few months , even on champ LAN he was playing really well and i feel like Tenz was stealing all the spotlight with considerably worse performance compared to Shahz . I know people make fun of shahz for his past but he's converted his skills really well into VAL .
I'd say him and Sick are two of the more, consistent players on the team (as of recent Zombs could be included as well, but that's just my opinion)
I like Shahz, wholesome nice dude, but he has a bit of an ego as well/persistence to change. Of course he replies to the criticism or takes from his chat in the manner he does, because lets be honest, most of them, including me, are pretty low rank and probably don't have a good idea of how things play out in pro play. But some guys have mentioned in this thread, if they change their mentality they can improve, but I doubt with the kind of ego he has, he may be persistent to change and it could probably hurt the team.
yungbasel [#17]Are Germany a fluke for winning the world cup in 2014 but then getting grouped in 2018?
Valorant changes dramatically every major patch. You can't expect the same team to dominate through different meta's. Even when a team is on top, it's by fine margins. A change in the way the game is played resets everything.
Get over it.
I hate Germany for taking away Messi's chance in 2014, but no, I'd say that's more superstition and the champions curse, they are still one of the strongest football teams in Europe
And over here, I mean to say in the sense of instilling false hope, if you get what I mean. Sort of like saying, "We are still the best in the world and we'll win it all", after their recent performances.
elayaCL [#15]What would you consider a "fluke" is?
I think they were good and one of the best in some moment. They're just not that good anymore but considering the competitive scene is still young, i wouldn't call them a fluke.
I mean to say in the sense of instilling false hope, if you get what I mean. Sort of like saying, "We are still the best in the world and we'll win it all", after their recent performances. It counts a bit more as delusional maybe idk
I think they could easily be the best team they need to change their comps. I know I don’t know everything and sentinels probably have a reason, but dapr on chamber instead of shaz or tenz? It almost feels like they refuse to adapt. Comps matter a lotttt. Like look at tsm, they had this weird thing where subroza was flexing and playing smokes and wardell was playing sentinel but rossy would also play kj because wardell “couldn’t be their sentinel”, but they changed it so roza is now perma smoke, wardell is sentinel, and rossy on flex. The current them is so much better then when they were on the vct.
AyazHashem [#18]I'd say him and Sick are two of the more, consistent players on the team (as of recent Zombs could be included as well, but that's just my opinion)
I like Shahz, wholesome nice dude, but he has a bit of an ego as well/persistence to change. Of course he replies to the criticism or takes from his chat in the manner he does, because lets be honest, most of them, including me, are pretty low rank and probably don't have a good idea of how things play out in pro play. But some guys have mentioned in this thread, if they change their mentality they can improve, but I doubt with the kind of ego he has, he may be persistent to change and it could probably hurt the team.
i agree but i worry that when you have that number of cocky players with that mentality in same team its hard man , tough luck for you sen fans , imo there is need for major restructure to bump new blood and honestly a lwokey like me has no idea what should be done but yeah it will take time thats for sure
Basedobserver [#12]Zombs is not the problem tho . All the braindead haters on this site don't know about Zombs past . My man used to track like an aimbot when he used to play tracer and soldier in OW . Even in apex he had top tier aim . I think he needs to try new agents . Also Zombs has the best tracking aim in SEN .
well your arguemnt isnt valid my guy , and let me tell you why nitro has been a dominant cs team and was top player and when he switched to val he was okay but not as gd as he was on cs , also kennys tried val after the g2 kick just to find out its not the game for him , different game differnet palystyle and approach
Raizel_Cadis [#27]Drop TenZ and get someone who is more consistent. Ez fix
What if...
Thoughts? Braindead or good?
asdfgh [#5]and you think they will just suddenly change their mentality,have you seen the personalities on that team and org lmao
he watched too much anime
AyazHashem [#20]I hate Germany for taking away Messi's chance in 2014, but no, I'd say that's more superstition and the champions curse, they are still one of the strongest football teams in Europe
And over here, I mean to say in the sense of instilling false hope, if you get what I mean. Sort of like saying, "We are still the best in the world and we'll win it all", after their recent performances.
I see your opinion, but I wouldn't say it's false hope. it's not so weird for ex winners to talk optimistically even if they don't have the results to show. it's a small part of what's needed for a winning mentality.
v1_wins_this_masters [#4]Strong comeback when they change their mentality.
Every one of their players are amazing players(yes, even zombs) and no one should or are denying that.
Another problem I see is ZERO creativity in comps, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Every team does not need to become a Fnatic, but it would be helpful if they were not playing so restrictive and rigid comps
EDIT:as the agent pool keeps increasing, I think microadjustments in comps based on performance and other teams playstyle/comp would become more and more important
stopped reading at even zombs
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