Бандурка 2-0
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.50 1.55 1.45 | 277 305 249 | 25 13 12 | / 14 8 6 / | 5 2 3 | +11 +5 +6 | 75% 75% 75% | 188 195 181 | 49% 32% 85% | 2 1 1 | 1 1 0 | +1 0 +1 | |
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1.21 1.27 1.14 | 213 267 160 | 17 10 7 | / 15 9 6 / | 3 1 2 | +2 +1 +1 | 67% 67% 67% | 141 165 117 | 7% 13% 2% | 1 1 0 | 1 0 1 | 0 +1 -1 | |
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0.89 0.67 1.11 | 185 128 244 | 15 5 10 | / 20 10 10 / | 4 1 3 | -5 -5 0 | 58% 58% 58% | 132 102 161 | 33% 26% 38% | 2 1 1 | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.83 0.94 0.73 | 173 223 124 | 13 10 3 | / 16 9 7 / | 5 3 2 | -3 +1 -4 | 54% 58% 50% | 122 152 92 | 29% 31% 25% | 5 3 2 | 5 1 4 | 0 +2 -2 | |
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0.53 0.29 0.77 | 117 70 164 | 9 3 6 | / 19 11 8 / | 8 7 1 | -10 -8 -2 | 42% 33% 50% | 78 49 106 | 25% 11% 43% | 0 0 0 | 5 3 2 | -5 -3 -2 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.40 1.26 1.54 | 299 246 352 | 24 9 15 | / 17 7 10 / | 17 9 8 | +7 +2 +5 | 92% 100% 83% | 193 156 230 | 23% 24% 23% | 4 1 3 | 1 1 0 | +3 0 +3 | |
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1.09 0.98 1.19 | 241 207 276 | 19 9 10 | / 16 9 7 / | 2 1 1 | +3 0 +3 | 63% 58% 67% | 148 125 171 | 23% 27% 20% | 6 4 2 | 4 1 3 | +2 +3 -1 | |
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0.98 1.24 0.73 | 194 280 108 | 18 13 5 | / 16 9 7 / | 6 2 4 | +2 +4 -2 | 71% 67% 75% | 122 173 70 | 32% 38% 19% | 2 2 0 | 2 2 0 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.95 0.88 1.02 | 188 144 233 | 14 5 9 | / 16 7 9 / | 11 3 8 | -2 -2 0 | 75% 75% 75% | 146 108 184 | 16% 14% 16% | 1 1 0 | 2 0 2 | -1 +1 -2 | |
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0.72 0.50 0.95 | 97 44 151 | 9 1 8 | / 14 7 7 / | 5 3 2 | -5 -6 +1 | 63% 58% 67% | 67 35 98 | 6% 11% 4% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.18 1.03 1.11 | 212 235 196 | 46 28 18 | / 44 25 19 / | 10 4 6 | +2 +3 -1 | 63% 69% 54% | 151 150 152 | 48% 43% 57% | 3 2 1 | 5 4 1 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.79 1.06 0.90 | 167 157 196 | 34 18 16 | / 46 28 18 / | 12 8 4 | -12 -10 -2 | 63% 64% 62% | 115 103 132 | 16% 21% 12% | 3 1 2 | 4 3 1 | -1 -2 +1 | |
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0.80 0.79 0.78 | 171 176 170 | 37 22 15 | / 52 29 23 / | 9 5 4 | -15 -7 -8 | 56% 64% 46% | 118 122 112 | 33% 38% 28% | 7 4 3 | 8 5 3 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.65 0.49 0.58 | 133 145 123 | 27 19 8 | / 48 28 20 / | 12 9 3 | -21 -9 -12 | 52% 56% 46% | 96 103 87 | 31% 33% 27% | 6 3 3 | 12 6 6 | -6 -3 -3 | |
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0.57 0.57 0.57 | 153 141 158 | 29 17 12 | / 55 33 22 / | 20 16 4 | -26 -16 -10 | 56% 58% 54% | 101 97 105 | 30% 24% 41% | 4 4 0 | 10 4 6 | -6 0 -6 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.41 1.51 1.47 | 306 237 353 | 65 21 44 | / 41 13 28 / | 38 22 16 | +24 +8 +16 | 89% 96% 83% | 203 166 230 | 34% 32% 35% | 11 3 8 | 4 3 1 | +7 0 +7 | |
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1.68 1.19 1.40 | 261 329 203 | 58 32 26 | / 35 15 20 / | 31 13 18 | +23 +17 +6 | 77% 77% 78% | 169 214 136 | 31% 32% 29% | 9 5 4 | 4 2 2 | +5 +3 +2 | |
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1.10 1.35 1.25 | 193 173 210 | 45 18 27 | / 31 12 19 / | 22 4 18 | +14 +6 +8 | 82% 81% 83% | 135 116 149 | 26% 30% 24% | 2 2 0 | 4 1 3 | -2 +1 -3 | |
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1.04 1.11 1.08 | 199 217 193 | 45 21 24 | / 35 18 17 / | 7 4 3 | +10 +3 +7 | 73% 69% 75% | 132 141 125 | 20% 25% 16% | 15 7 8 | 7 3 4 | +8 +4 +4 | |
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1.02 0.98 1.00 | 139 126 144 | 32 11 21 | / 31 12 19 / | 21 10 11 | +1 -1 +2 | 74% 69% 78% | 96 93 97 | 20% 15% 24% | 2 0 2 | 4 0 4 | -2 0 -2 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.18 1.00 1.46 | 213 162 291 | 14 7 7 | / 15 9 6 / | 8 7 1 | -1 -2 +1 | 75% 83% 63% | 141 113 183 | 25% 27% 23% | 2 0 2 | 1 1 0 | +1 -1 +2 | |
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0.97 1.27 0.52 | 211 275 115 | 14 11 3 | / 16 9 7 / | 3 1 2 | -2 +2 -4 | 50% 58% 38% | 139 168 96 | 39% 43% 25% | 1 1 0 | 2 1 1 | -1 0 -1 | |
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0.82 0.78 0.88 | 193 204 179 | 13 8 5 | / 17 10 7 / | 2 2 0 | -4 -2 -2 | 55% 67% 38% | 128 137 114 | 27% 38% 13% | 4 2 2 | 2 1 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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0.23 0.22 0.25 | 69 59 86 | 4 2 2 | / 17 10 7 / | 6 5 1 | -13 -8 -5 | 50% 58% 38% | 50 45 56 | 22% 17% 33% | 0 0 0 | 4 4 0 | -4 -4 0 | |
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0.23 0.35 0.05 | 94 96 91 | 6 4 2 | / 19 11 8 / | 5 4 1 | -13 -7 -6 | 55% 58% 50% | 59 59 61 | 32% 25% 43% | 1 1 0 | 3 1 2 | -2 0 -2 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.63 1.89 1.46 | 282 311 264 | 20 9 11 | / 9 3 6 / | 14 8 6 | +11 +6 +5 | 75% 88% 67% | 204 231 185 | 28% 24% 32% | 3 1 2 | 1 0 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.54 1.14 1.81 | 226 217 232 | 17 8 9 | / 8 4 4 / | 8 0 8 | +9 +4 +5 | 85% 75% 92% | 157 140 168 | 39% 57% 31% | 1 1 0 | 1 1 0 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.39 1.50 1.32 | 263 203 304 | 18 5 13 | / 12 3 9 / | 9 7 2 | +6 +2 +4 | 85% 88% 83% | 182 146 206 | 45% 36% 50% | 1 0 1 | 2 1 1 | -1 -1 0 | |
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1.11 1.45 0.87 | 178 225 148 | 14 7 7 | / 11 4 7 / | 6 3 3 | +3 +3 0 | 75% 75% 75% | 124 171 93 | 33% 31% 35% | 0 0 0 | 2 0 2 | -2 0 -2 | |
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1.05 0.94 1.13 | 196 220 181 | 15 7 8 | / 11 5 6 / | 1 1 0 | +4 +2 +2 | 75% 75% 75% | 127 139 119 | 16% 20% 13% | 7 2 5 | 2 2 0 | +5 0 +5 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.01 1.08 0.86 | 248 256 234 | 14 10 4 | / 17 11 6 / | 7 5 2 | -3 -1 -2 | 78% 83% 67% | 177 184 163 | 33% 31% 38% | 3 3 0 | 2 0 2 | +1 +3 -2 | |
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0.76 0.70 0.86 | 149 125 197 | 7 4 3 | / 14 8 6 / | 2 1 1 | -7 -4 -3 | 61% 75% 33% | 115 88 171 | 61% 78% 44% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.64 0.79 0.33 | 158 154 170 | 10 7 3 | / 15 9 6 / | 1 1 0 | -5 -2 -3 | 50% 50% 50% | 113 111 117 | 42% 50% 25% | 1 0 1 | 3 1 2 | -2 -1 -1 | |
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0.60 0.94 0.02 | 134 197 12 | 9 9 0 | / 15 9 6 / | 3 2 1 | -6 0 -6 | 56% 67% 33% | 88 127 12 | 47% 53% 0% | 1 1 0 | 4 3 1 | -3 -2 -1 | |
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0.19 0.09 0.36 | 75 42 142 | 3 1 2 | / 16 10 6 / | 1 0 1 | -13 -9 -4 | 44% 42% 50% | 53 32 95 | 26% 40% 19% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.68 2.28 1.39 | 307 450 236 | 20 10 10 | / 10 3 7 / | 11 3 8 | +10 +7 +3 | 89% 83% 92% | 194 274 154 | 33% 33% 33% | 4 2 2 | 1 0 1 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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1.64 1.59 1.66 | 357 264 404 | 23 7 16 | / 12 3 9 / | 12 6 6 | +11 +4 +7 | 89% 100% 83% | 241 211 255 | 44% 44% 44% | 6 2 4 | 1 1 0 | +5 +1 +4 | |
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1.32 1.48 1.23 | 166 171 164 | 14 5 9 | / 7 1 6 / | 3 1 2 | +7 +4 +3 | 89% 100% 83% | 96 101 94 | 27% 27% 27% | 0 0 0 | 1 0 1 | -1 0 -1 | |
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1.25 1.50 1.12 | 142 158 134 | 9 3 6 | / 6 1 5 / | 10 4 6 | +3 +2 +1 | 89% 83% 92% | 103 105 102 | 19% 5% 35% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.11 1.29 1.02 | 159 232 124 | 11 5 6 | / 8 4 4 / | 4 2 2 | +3 +1 +2 | 83% 83% 83% | 116 178 86 | 21% 29% 16% | 2 1 1 | 1 0 1 | +1 +1 0 |
I'm just going to copy-paste what I said in previous Navi matchups
-Icebox: switch Duno and Cloud roles. Cloud take Sova and Duno IGLs while on Sage. Don't let Duno IGL as Sova. Jady could pick Sova as well but he is farming with his Kayo. Clouds potential is wasted playing Sage here.
-Haven: no more Skye for Cloud here. Navi needs a Sova and it is his opportunity and the necessity of the team for Cloud to pick Sova. Same as with Icebox, Jady could pick Sova as well but that would imply Jady not playing Kayo again
-Ascent: seems fine
-Bind: seems kinda fine (?) + a switch between Cloud (Sova) and Jady (Kayo) could work as well. Also, I don't like 7ssk7's Jett here. I wish I see a Raze from Cloud here in the future
-Breeze: pls don't let Duno IGL while on Sova... Stick Cloud/Jady to Sova and let Duno IGL on Viper. That would free Jady to play Kayo here and not Viper
-Split: again, let Jady pick a more offensive agent like Kayo here. Plus, I don't think Skye is optimal here at all
-Fracture: didn't see Navi here yet
ValdemieGC [#7]I'm just going to copy-paste what I said in previous Navi matchups
-Icebox: switch Duno and Cloud roles. Cloud take Sova and Duno IGLs while on Sage. Don't let Duno IGL as Sova. Jady could pick Sova as well but he is farming with his Kayo. Clouds potential is wasted playing Sage here.
-Haven: no more Skye for Cloud here. Navi needs a Sova and it is his opportunity and the necessity of the team for Cloud to pick Sova. Same as with Icebox, Jady could pick Sova as well but that would imply Jady not playing Kayo again
-Ascent: seems fine
-Bind: seems kinda fine (?) + a switch between Cloud (Sova) and Jady (Kayo) could work as well. Also, I don't like 7ssk7's Jett here. I wish I see a Raze from Cloud here in the future
-Breeze: pls don't let Duno IGL while on Sova... Stick Cloud/Jady to Sova and let Duno IGL on Viper. That would free Jady to play Kayo here and not Viper
-Split: again, let Jady pick a more offensive agent like Kayo here. Plus, I don't think Skye is optimal here at all
-Fracture: didn't see Navi here yet
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ValdemieGC [#7]I'm just going to copy-paste what I said in previous Navi matchups
-Icebox: switch Duno and Cloud roles. Cloud take Sova and Duno IGLs while on Sage. Don't let Duno IGL as Sova. Jady could pick Sova as well but he is farming with his Kayo. Clouds potential is wasted playing Sage here.
-Haven: no more Skye for Cloud here. Navi needs a Sova and it is his opportunity and the necessity of the team for Cloud to pick Sova. Same as with Icebox, Jady could pick Sova as well but that would imply Jady not playing Kayo again
-Ascent: seems fine
-Bind: seems kinda fine (?) + a switch between Cloud (Sova) and Jady (Kayo) could work as well. Also, I don't like 7ssk7's Jett here. I wish I see a Raze from Cloud here in the future
-Breeze: pls don't let Duno IGL while on Sova... Stick Cloud/Jady to Sova and let Duno IGL on Viper. That would free Jady to play Kayo here and not Viper
-Split: again, let Jady pick a more offensive agent like Kayo here. Plus, I don't think Skye is optimal here at all
-Fracture: didn't see Navi here yet
in conclusion: jady in kay/o 👍
Dolphin [#9]in conclusion: jady in kay/o 👍
Jady is a monster easily top3 in Russia and he's versatile as fuck too
ValdemieGC [#7]I'm just going to copy-paste what I said in previous Navi matchups
-Icebox: switch Duno and Cloud roles. Cloud take Sova and Duno IGLs while on Sage. Don't let Duno IGL as Sova. Jady could pick Sova as well but he is farming with his Kayo. Clouds potential is wasted playing Sage here.
-Haven: no more Skye for Cloud here. Navi needs a Sova and it is his opportunity and the necessity of the team for Cloud to pick Sova. Same as with Icebox, Jady could pick Sova as well but that would imply Jady not playing Kayo again
-Ascent: seems fine
-Bind: seems kinda fine (?) + a switch between Cloud (Sova) and Jady (Kayo) could work as well. Also, I don't like 7ssk7's Jett here. I wish I see a Raze from Cloud here in the future
-Breeze: pls don't let Duno IGL while on Sova... Stick Cloud/Jady to Sova and let Duno IGL on Viper. That would free Jady to play Kayo here and not Viper
-Split: again, let Jady pick a more offensive agent like Kayo here. Plus, I don't think Skye is optimal here at all
-Fracture: didn't see Navi here yet
Sage on Icebox = trade player, same goes for kay/o in this particular agent composition, you enter the site after jett and you must kill everyone whom jett couldn't handle, of course place a wall too
Which literally means that the guy playing sage on this map must have sick aiming skills
Duno and sick aiming skills = oxymoron
That's why they have Cloud playing it
Olofboost [#11]Sage on Icebox = trade player, same goes for kay/o in this particular agent composition, you enter the site after jett and you must kill everyone whom jett couldn't handle, of course place a wall too
Which literally means that the guy playing sage on this map must have sick aiming skills
Duno and sick aiming skills = oxymoron
That's why they have Cloud playing it
Yeah that's a good take and I partially agree but I think of Sage more as a wall-bot agent than a specific trade agent in this map.
Duno could still take the Sage role and just be accompanied by a 3rd player when entering sites and retaking, so the team doesn't depend of Duno's ability to refrag and/or trade. That's why I think Cloud is being wasted on Sage
I mean look at Dino's performance as Sova on Icebox, Navi urgently needs to do something about that as it is clearly not paying off
ValdemieGC [#12]Yeah that's a good take and I partially agree but I think of Sage more as a wall-bot agent than a specific trade agent in this map.
Duno could still take the Sage role and just be accompanied by a 3rd player when entering sites and retaking, so the team doesn't depend of Duno's ability to refrag and/or trade. That's why I think Cloud is being wasted on Sage
I mean look at Dino's performance as Sova on Icebox, Navi urgently needs to do something about that as it is clearly not paying off
Bro the only possible solution is -duno -dinkzj both, sign sentinel talent like vo0kashu (not saying it should be him) and sova talent like 1ndra, there are plenty of gems in CIS who could bring Navi to new level
I swear EVEN IF Navi proceed to EMEA League, they will be 6th in the group, sent to relegation, and knocked out by the likes of Tenstar / Vitality who will grind VRL circuits this entire time (to be honest both Tenstar and Vitality are already better than Navi, EU just doesn't have enough slots)
Navi will NOT achieve anything with Duno and dinkzj
Olofboost [#13]Bro the only possible solution is -duno -dinkzj both, sign sentinel talent like vo0kashu (not saying it should be him) and sova talent like 1ndra, there are plenty of gems in CIS who could bring Navi to new level
I swear EVEN IF Navi proceed to EMEA League, they will be 6th in the group, sent to relegation, and knocked out by the likes of Tenstar / Vitality who will grind VRL circuits this entire time (to be honest both Tenstar and Vitality are already better than Navi, EU just doesn't have enough slots)
Navi will NOT achieve anything with Duno and dinkzj
Ага да. Также говорили про гамбит когда их собирали (мол как 4 из 5 дуэлист плэеров смогут играть вместе. Как делить роли. Состав говно и т.п.). Потом когда на редгара меняли много кто ныл (почему не взяли нормального IGL).
Вы сначала дайте хотя бы пол года/сезон им поиграть и сыграться. Дайте Мише привыкнуть к роли и наработать игру.
+Вы не можете знать как у них это все работает внутри. Может им удобно чтобы стреляли 3 основных игрока, а 2 других делали необходимую для этих килов работу и выходили хотя бы в 1 КДА.
Gravanoq [#19]Ага да. Также говорили про гамбит когда их собирали (мол как 4 из 5 дуэлист плэеров смогут играть вместе. Как делить роли. Состав говно и т.п.). Потом когда на редгара меняли много кто ныл (почему не взяли нормального IGL).
Вы сначала дайте хотя бы пол года/сезон им поиграть и сыграться. Дайте Мише привыкнуть к роли и наработать игру.
+Вы не можете знать как у них это все работает внутри. Может им удобно чтобы стреляли 3 основных игрока, а 2 других делали необходимую для этих килов работу и выходили хотя бы в 1 КДА.
Totally agree with this. It's not always about looking for roster changes. You need to aim to perform the best with the roster that you have at the moment. And Navi needs more time and agent composition changes, but it's not optimal to look for roster changes right now. Too early for that