I mean he didnt have a good career in cs but he was 18, im pretty sure he would become a top NA player, people just hate him, call him overhyped etc. saying he sucked in cs aswell. People so insecure about valorant pros but especially him
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Why does all csgo fans hate on tenz so much?
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EU_quiet [#2]Coz he trash... subroza and sick were better prospects than him in CS
No way man, nice try at baiting tho. Theres a reason why every pro respects him but people on forums call him trash, usually you get haters when ur good
Because for them TenZ isn't good enough.
To be a CSGO high level isn't only about "aim" but maintain a high level of information about match information and TenZ isn't good to be a tier1 so it means he could not maintain all these things inside his mind. IMO valorant still at low level so with his tier 2 skills he can shine against people who never trained to process all these information in-game before.
kitsunee [#5]way too inconsistent unlike some eu duelists
This was his first bad series and last berlin he had 1 bad map, wouldnt say inconsistent but i understand what you mean, but everyone has bad games just look at scream on breeze vs sen
Demise [#8]gave up on c9 in cs days because he couldnt perform and choked every single big games on LAN pretty much still wont call him a bad player hes prolly still top 5 duelist world but he cant handle that pressure
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i_need_NA_mommy [#7]Because for them TenZ isn't good enough.
To be a CSGO high level isn't only about "aim" but maintain a high level of information about match information and TenZ isn't good to be a tier1 so it means he could not maintain all these things inside his mind. IMO valorant still at low level so with his tier 2 skills he can shine against people who never trained to process all these information in-game before.
He was playing t1 att 17-18, just because he wasnt good then dont mean he wouldnt get good, lots of pros dont touch t1 before 21+
Jing [#12]He was playing t1 att 17-18, just because he wasnt good then dont mean he wouldnt get good, lots of pros dont touch t1 before 21+
in cs a lot of t1 players were under 18 btw and the youngest one being 14 even 13
Demise [#8]gave up on c9 in cs days because he couldnt perform and choked every single big games on LAN pretty much still wont call him a bad player hes prolly still top 5 duelist world but he cant handle that pressure
For me he's still the best player in the world actually, thing is Sentinels is just playing shit, KRU looked way more prepared today to be fair it wasnt about skill, about C9 CS he got bench right ? I mean he didn't decide himself to get bench if I remember good and well, I feel like C9 CS were just using him like an entry while he wasnt, not easy to perform in these conditions
Beatricio [#15]For me he's still the best player in the world actually, thing is Sentinels is just playing shit, KRU looked way more prepared today to be fair it wasnt about skill, about C9 CS he got bench right ? I mean he didn't decide himself to get bench if I remember good and well, I feel like C9 CS were just using him like an entry while he wasnt, not easy to perform in these conditions
true u right but he benched himself
Demise [#14]in cs a lot of t1 players were under 18 btw and the youngest one being 14 even 13
Say 1 t1 pro that was 14 lmao, and yes some are but most arent, coldzera for example won his first hltv recognized tournament at 22, fallen was even older before t1. only a small amount get t1 before 18 i mean you can just look in teams in top 15 how many there are, and also now its becoming more normal but before it wasnt. but please give me example of t1 pro thats 14 LMAOOO
Jing [#12]He was playing t1 att 17-18, just because he wasnt good then dont mean he wouldnt get good, lots of pros dont touch t1 before 21+
These things is developed by training everyday.. He quit from CS and started valorant (which level is low to process all information because the game is new) also he just streamed almost everyday in past. He could not evolve his ability to a next level.
To be a CSGO Pro you don't even know how much information you need to be processing in a fucking round, valorant isn't at this level imo.
- in CSGO even for AWP peek you need to know every single pixel of the map because there's a right model peek advantage against left side peek. Valorant you don't even need to think to peek with jett lol.
Cuz he couldnt replicate his performance on top tier cs while being in the red and said that the igl (daps) doesnt know how to utilize him properly, everyone on cs know that daps cant frag but a good igl famous for building the team foundation and got kicked later on, tenz is relatively new in cs under daps banner and saying that just added fuel to the fire
Beatricio [#15]For me he's still the best player in the world actually, thing is Sentinels is just playing shit, KRU looked way more prepared today to be fair it wasnt about skill, about C9 CS he got bench right ? I mean he didn't decide himself to get bench if I remember good and well, I feel like C9 CS were just using him like an entry while he wasnt, not easy to perform in these conditions
i believe he had shit internet and benched himself so he could stream since he didnt want to play tournaments on high ping
Jing [#17]Say 1 t1 pro that was 14 lmao, and yes some are but most arent, coldzera for example won his first hltv recognized tournament at 22, fallen was even older before t1. only a small amount get t1 before 18 i mean you can just look in teams in top 15 how many there are, and also now its becoming more normal but before it wasnt. but please give me example of t1 pro thats 14 LMAOOO
aunkere or something russian player in S1mple's team and his teammate cant remember his name google it you will find out kid was in FPL and farming teir 1 players at 14
Jing [#9]This was his first bad series and last berlin he had 1 bad map, wouldnt say inconsistent but i understand what you mean, but everyone has bad games just look at scream on breeze vs sen
yea but other teams can lean on their teammates if one is having a bad game. If someone on sen is having a bad game especially tenz they seem to not do good.
Demise [#21]aunkere or something russian player in S1mple's team and his teammate cant remember his name google it you will find out kid was in FPL and farming teir 1 players at 14
Bruh you know nothing about cs, aunkere is 21 and plays for navi junior which is barely t2, m0nesy was 14 when bought to navi jr and he is still playing sub t2, and he is one of the most hyped cs prospects ever so he will touch t1 before 17 but you obviously dont know anything about cs.
Jing [#24]Bruh you know nothing about cs, aunkere is 21 and plays for navi junior which is barely t2, m0nesy was 14 when bought to navi jr and he is still playing sub t2, and he is one of the most hyped cs prospects ever so he will touch t1 before 17 but you obviously dont know anything about cs.
ik thats why i said google his team theres 2 players under 14 when they were playing TEIR 1 CS LMAO
i_need_NA_mommy [#18]These things is developed by training everyday.. He quit from CS and started valorant (which level is low to process all information because the game is new) also he just streamed almost everyday in past. He could not evolve his ability to a next level.
To be a CSGO Pro you don't even know how much information you need to be processing in a fucking round, valorant isn't at this level imo.
- in CSGO even for AWP peek you need to know every single pixel of the map because there's a right model peek advantage against left side peek. Valorant you don't even need to think to peek with jett lol.
You are just talking bs, stop making cs sound like rocket science, both games are complicated and you saying tenz reached his peak at 18 is funny.
Jing [#24]Bruh you know nothing about cs, aunkere is 21 and plays for navi junior which is barely t2, m0nesy was 14 when bought to navi jr and he is still playing sub t2, and he is one of the most hyped cs prospects ever so he will touch t1 before 17 but you obviously dont know anything about cs.
i prolly know more about cs than u but okay buddy i just have a bad memory thats why i said google it and now see you found hes 14 playing FPL at teir 1 hahahaha
kitsunee [#22]yea but other teams can lean on their teammates if one is having a bad game. If someone on sen is having a bad game especially tenz they seem to not do good.
Yeah i think its more of a team problem than a tenz problem, sinatraa would add some needed firepower
Jing [#9]This was his first bad series and last berlin he had 1 bad map, wouldnt say inconsistent but i understand what you mean, but everyone has bad games just look at scream on breeze vs sen
TenZ shouldn't have average games let alone bad games. Why? He's their star player.
Demise [#25]ik thats why i said google his team theres 2 players under 14 when they were playing TEIR 1 CS LMAO
He meant that it is not tier 1 cs
Jing [#26]You are just talking bs, stop making cs sound like rocket science, both games are complicated and you saying tenz reached his peak at 18 is funny.
I didn't said about anything reaching his peak in 18 lol, is people above me talking about it.
I'm just saying that he has advantage against people from others game because he had CSGO experience, and yes
CSGO is a rocket science in high level you don't even know about it
Demise [#27]i prolly know more about cs than u but okay buddy i just have a bad memory thats why i said google it and now see you found hes 14 playing FPL at teir 1 hahahaha
FPL isnt tier 1 cs, that says enough. Tier 1 csgo is tournaments like blast, majors etc, top 15 teams. Tenz was really good in NA fpl but i mean thats not pro cs so you thinking its T1 says enough, ur a lvl 4 faceit player that dont really know alot, and thats ok. tier 1 cs isnt academy teams, they had a young team but they play in an academy league and t3 basically.
Jing [#32]FPL isnt tier 1 cs, that says enough. Tier 1 csgo is tournaments like blast, majors etc, top 15 teams. Tenz was really good in NA fpl but i mean thats not pro cs so you thinking its T1 says enough, ur a lvl 4 faceit player that dont really know alot, and thats ok. tier 1 cs isnt academy teams, they had a young team but they play in an academy league and t3 basically.
he still farmed t1 tho so you cant argue there isnt young players who didnt play cs at that level lol and u prolly havent even played cs ever lmao silver iq
i_need_NA_mommy [#31]I didn't said about anything reaching his peak in 18 lol, is people above me talking about it.
I'm just saying that he has advantage against people from others game because he had CSGO experience, and yes
CSGO is a rocket science in high level you don't even know about it
Its a lot of info to process but saying valorant isnt is dumb, i have played bot games on kind of high level not pro or anything, but people i know have, some say cs is more complicated and some say valorant. its not that big of a gap. Ofc he has advantage but 90% of valorant top scene is cs players.
PunisherXPR [#3]I mean CSGO fans hate on everything and everyone Valorant-related for no reason
this. cs fans hate him because he's one of the symbols of Valorant.
Demise [#33]he still farmed t1 tho so you cant argue there isnt young players who didnt play cs at that level lol and u prolly havent even played cs ever lmao silver iq
what do you mean farmed t1? there isnt a single player that was 14 in t1 cs, the highest t1 pros are players like bit, brollan, frozen, sergej and probably some more but they werent 14 and they are super special talent. Youre just ignoring the fact you have no idea what ur talking about. I play cs everyday and have soon 5k hours but that dont mean im gonna hate on a kid for leaving the game
Jing [#34]Its a lot of info to process but saying valorant isnt is dumb, i have played bot games on kind of high level not pro or anything, but people i know have, some say cs is more complicated and some say valorant. its not that big of a gap. Ofc he has advantage but 90% of valorant top scene is cs players.
It is but NOT RIGHT NOW
Valorant still not at THIS LEVEL IN THIS MOMENT
Valorant WILL EVOLVE AFTER YEARS AND WILL SURPASS CSGO IN THIS LEVEL OF INFORMATION
But for someone like TenZ that was used to process MANY INFORMATION in tier1-2 in CS its nothing, so he just got downgrade.
That's what I was trying to say. I'm not hating btw.
i_need_NA_mommy [#38]It is but NOT RIGHT NOW
Valorant still not at THIS LEVEL IN THIS MOMENT
Valorant WILL EVOLVE AFTER YEARS AND WILL SURPASS CSGO IN THIS LEVEL OF INFORMATION
But for someone like TenZ that was used to process MANY INFORMATION in tier1-2 in CS its nothing, so he just got downgrade.
That's what I was trying to say. I'm not hating btw.
Ur kinda right about that, but i think with more experience tenz would get better by time
crazy_igel_fan [#36]this. cs fans hate him because he's one of the symbols of Valorant.
I agree with that, they just bring up his past to downplay his current success
Kiss-Shot [#29]TenZ shouldn't have average games let alone bad games. Why? He's their star player.
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Demise [#33]he still farmed t1 tho so you cant argue there isnt young players who didnt play cs at that level lol and u prolly havent even played cs ever lmao silver iq
No dude Jing is right, fpl isnt tier 1 even MSL who got 4000elo in fpl got thrashed in pro matches, you need to enter at least top20 team for tier 1
Jing [#37]what do you mean farmed t1? there isnt a single player that was 14 in t1 cs, the highest t1 pros are players like bit, brollan, frozen, sergej and probably some more but they werent 14 and they are super special talent. Youre just ignoring the fact you have no idea what ur talking about. I play cs everyday and have soon 5k hours but that dont mean im gonna hate on a kid for leaving the game
okay bud you still are stuck at silver doe doesnt matter how much time u spend on the game and if u had a brain and knew anything about cs back when it was actually good and seen some pro streams that kid was farming the best EU pros in FPL which is full of teir 1 players and am not trying ignore anything people have been younger than him and still performed better than him on LAN and its not about me hating him i dont even hate lmao i never said i did u made that shit up and in the heat of the moment i might have said some dumb shit but i still acknowledge him as one of the best players but yeah keep thinking ur the real deal when u sound like a absolute buffoon
arT_fan [#40]What do you mean hate? I mean people were saying he is the "esports player of the year" and comparing him to s1mple of course there will be arguments why he isn't and not even close.
these people are idiots tbh
s1mple is at its peak since 2018. First let's see if TenZ is consistent enough in Vlr equals s1mple is in cs. At the moment this comparison is meaningless to say the least.
Also like your name. arT is the best
Demise [#46]okay bud you still are stuck at silver doe doesnt matter how much time u spend on the game and if u had a brain and knew anything about cs back when it was actually good and seen some pro streams that kid was farming the best EU pros in FPL which is full of teir 1 players and am not trying ignore anything people have been younger than him and still performed better than him on LAN and its not about me hating him i dont even hate lmao i never said i did u made that shit up and in the heat of the moment i might have said some dumb shit but i still acknowledge him as one of the best players but yeah keep thinking ur the real deal when u sound like a absolute buffoon
Anyone can farm people in pug environment like fpl, tenz was a beast in fpl, but t1 cs isnt pugs thats what you dont understand. T1 cs need more than just super aim and thats why some people get up to t1 earlier and some later. If you count fpl as t1 tenzera got invited to fpl at 16 and was owning pros like stew and tarik in pugs but thats not t1. And i havent ever been silver :D
Jing [#48]Anyone can farm people in pug environment like fpl, tenz was a beast in fpl, but t1 cs isnt pugs thats what you dont understand. T1 cs need more than just super aim and thats why some people get up to t1 earlier and some later. If you count fpl as t1 tenzera got invited to fpl at 16 and was owning pros like stew and tarik in pugs but thats not t1. And i havent ever been silver :D
good for you. Your opinion differs from mine no point in even talking about it because nothing good will come out of it and i was LE in cs and faceit level 7 when i left cs.
Yoorake [#49]I don't hate him i hate all the people saying he's as good as s1mple while tenz wouldn't even make the navi roster as a pure aimer
Yeah ur right even comparing him to s1mple is disrespectful, but the people doing that are clueless or looking for reactions
Demise [#51]good for you. Your opinion differs from mine no point in even talking about it because nothing good will come out of it and i was LE in cs and faceit level 7 when i left cs.
Yeah ur right have a good night even tho we disagree. I have been lvl 10 for 1.5 yrs now aiming for 3k in 2022
Jing [#52]Yeah ur right even comparing him to s1mple is disrespectful, but the people doing that are clueless or looking for reactions
S1mple had to prove years and years of being mvp on a losing team and finally this major to be the goat while someone just uses a flashy agent well and everyone already predicting he'll be the goat of valorant
I don’t think people hate him. I think it’s more of the fact for whatever reason tenz fans want to compare him to s1mple and tenz fanboys and s1mple fanboys are one of the same.
I think the problem people have with tenz however is how he had the potential to be really good but gave up on c9 and after he was benched he went and cried on stream that “their play style didn’t suit him.” And I think thats where people lost respect.
Long story short I think it’s just s1mple fans who hate him.
PunisherXPR [#3]I mean CSGO fans hate on everything and everyone Valorant-related for no reason
Yes and no. There are haters no matter what sport or game you play. Some Cs players hate Valorant, some Valorant fans hate CS. Can say the same with Americans and soccer and Europeans with American Football.
I think it’s more of s1mple fans who don’t like tenz because of how much tenz try to compare him to s1mple.
When he got benched from c9 for playing terribly, he said he didn’t care but went on stream and complained that “their play style didn’t suit him.” And I don’t think that sat well with people.
NightBeam [#56]Actually he is right on Sick. He played Major back in 2018 + yay who reached playoffs
I agree with sick not sure about roza in terms of skill but still, roza is 4 years older, sick and yay 3 years older. Tenz wasnt trash even if they were better
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