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i didnt think it would require an explanation ngl...
there are well respected in figures in esports who have supported kamo (not at the time of his controversies but years later)
on the opposite end there are well respected figures in esports who have cut ties with flor (all of her past teammates on sr)
kamo actually did face repercussions for his controversy, he was cut from his tier 2 team. he only made vct well over a year after that. i imagine he actually wouldnt be able to play on team liquid if the controversy was current and now that he isnt under 18
also this is kind of less objective i guess but what flor allegedly did is so much worse than anything kamo did. asking his online gf for nudes when she had already sent them to him unsolicited previously? saying some words online as a teenager?
i mean there are so many differences and i think you should immediately be aware of all of them if you know kamos past
basically main difference is that flor doesnt have a 'controversy' she has allegations
I brought up Kamo as an example. People are just selective on who to cancel. One for actually doing something bad and the other for having allegations of SA.
If there is solid proof of the SA, as I said earlier, I will apologize and admit to being wrong. I just find it amusing how people are repeating history just like with Sinatraa or any YouTuber being accused of shit.
It may be different, but the endgame isn't.
well then i dont understand what youre trying to say
it is obvious why kamo can play vct and flor cant (for now) and your example does nothing
also one thing is that michaelisupset only said that flor is a weird person, which is almost definitely true. flor admitted to a lot of the stuff accused of her, pretty much everything barring the actual assault. he didnt call her a rapist and i dont call her that either
Okay yes. Flor did admit to the degen behavior. I'm just not jumping to the conclusion on the SA until there's proof.
Maybe using Kamo as an example was a bit out of reach considering he didn't SA his ex. I'll admit that. I was just trying to point out how people are selective and it came out weird.
Either way, I'm just going to wait for the conclusion if there is one. At least you aren't trying to call me a rape apologist like the TL flair guy lol
ok so kamo made some weird comments to a girl a few years ago as a kid, grew up and is given a second chance. If he does something again, he is guaranteed to never have another chance. He made a bad mistake but he was a kid and deserves a second chance.
flor is an alleged rapist (full grown adult btw) and didnt comply to any investigation in a situation that is very messy.
do you see the difference????
The alleged SA happened when she was still a minor. At least get the full facts right.
This is exactly with Sinatraa. instead of going to authorities, the ex will make a twitlonger to call out someone. Flor denied it and got evidence of the accuser's friend being weird.
If you have full proof of Flor SAing, I will apologize and renounce my comment.
look I dont, but theres plenty proof online. im not chronically online enough to go and hand feed it to you, but if you want to look at it go for it, but i highly doubt you will bc you are so set in your ways.
look at every perspective, just bc the truth doesnt fit your chosen narrative, you dont get the right to try and mold it into something thats not
the kamo and flor situations are completely entirely different, and i dont think its mine or anybody elses job to change your mind about defending a rapist
I can't defend a rapist if Flor isn't proven to be a rapist. Do you not see the issue? It's called an allegation, not a confession.
Flor admitted to being a degen and denied the SA.
I didn't choose a narrative. I'm looking at this shit as any regular viewer should. It's like you ignored my damn comment. I said if there's proof, I'll admit to being wrong.
It's like you ignored my damn comment
bc you didnt provide a valid arguement other than "nuh uh"
again, i dont have proof, but that doesnt mean that it isnt there. you can insult me and my arguement bc i dont spend all of my time obsessed over some internet situation, but that doesnt make you right.
im not here to convince you why im right and youre wrong, im just saying if youre gonna make a point at least make it coherent with what is actually true, not just what you want to believe.
you can insult me
I didn't. You've been the one attacking by implying the rape apologist remark.
again, i dont have proof,
You don't need to. I'm just saying in general if there is actual proof or when the verdict arrives (probably), then I'll admit to being wrong.
Look, the only thing I'll admit is using Kamo as an example. I was just trying to point out that people are selective with controversies. That was a bit unfair.
That's pretty much it. You can have your own POV and I can have mine.
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