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Drop s1mon

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#1
nexate2003

Why don't EDG drop s1mon, he is the worst player on the team and not even the IGL. He averaged a 0.89 KD in champions often going double negative. This year so far he has averaged a 0.90 KD during Kickoffs and Masters Bangkok. People cope by saying he has great util, but this isn't diamond, there are players at the tier 1 level who have as good util as him AND can shoot. When you're at the highest levels you have to do both. I don't understand why EDG should bear his deadweight when he isn't even the IGL. The mentality that Masters/Champs winners shouldn't make changes is the exact reason why many teams fall off after winning an event. I think EDG should drop s1mon even if they win Bangkok.

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kuya
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.......

#3
shrike-
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these mfs might win champions and a masters back to back and we’re saying this shit

#4
Yistyy
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he literally just won a champions.

#5
torsion
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Simon makes kk and chicoo and smoggy shine , and this helps them win champs

#6
ArterieX
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0/8

#7
nexate2003
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shrike- [#3]

these mfs might win champions and a masters back to back and we’re saying this shit

no thanks to s1mon

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kavie
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think about GEN drops Lakia and where they are now, you dont judge a player for KD

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EleeA
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Maybe it's nobody turn, because chechoo on igling. This year 1 player drop for sure before champ 2025.

#10
ArterieX
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He has great assist util , can clutch in the worst moments , he is bad when peeking an angle true but when simon gets peeked he doesnot miss
and EDG are still #1 in the world IDK why the other players and coaches would have problem with this

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eric_5008
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WhY dOn'T eDg DrOp S1mOn, He Is ThE wOrSt PlAyEr On ThE tEaM aNd NoT eVeN tHe IgL. hE aVeRaGeD a 0.89 kD iN cHaMpIoNs OfTeN gOiNg DoUbLe NeGaTiVe. tHiS yEaR sO fAr He HaS aVeRaGeD a 0.90 kD dUrInG kIcKoFfS aNd MaStErS bAnGkOk. PeOpLe CoPe By SaYiNg He HaS gReAt UtIl, BuT tHiS iSn'T dIaMoNd, tHeRe ArE pLaYeRs At ThE tIeR 1 lEvEl WhO hAvE aS gOoD uTiL aS hIm AnD cAn ShOoT. WhEn YoU'rE aT tHe HiGhEsT lEvElS yOu HaVe To Do BoTh. I dOn'T uNdErStAnD wHy EdG sHoUlD bEaR hIs DeAdWeIgHt WhEn He IsN't EvEn ThE iGl. ThE mEnTaLiTy ThAt MaStErS/cHaMpS wInNeRs ShOuLdN't MaKe ChAnGeS iS tHe ExAcT rEaSoN wHy MaNy TeAmS fAlL oFf AfTeR wInNiNg An EvEnT. I tHiNk EdG sHoUlD dRoP s1MoN eVeN iF tHeY wIn BaNgKoK.

#12
ArterieX
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kavie [#8]

think about GEN drops Lakia and where they are now, you dont judge a player for KD

Yeah XD

#13
nexate2003
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EleeA [#9]

Maybe it's nobody turn, because chechoo on igling. This year 1 player drop for sure before champ 2025.

i thought nobody was IGL

#14
Ronyko23
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EleeA [#9]

Maybe it's nobody turn, because chechoo on igling. This year 1 player drop for sure before champ 2025.

nobody is better than s1mon aimwise

#15
shrike-
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nexate2003 [#7]

no thanks to s1mon

we gotta get rid of the idea that a team can win a championship 4v5 lol

plus s1mon had some insane clutches during champs, he absolutely earned his title and his ability as a support player may help him earn another

#16
ArterieX
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EleeA [#9]

Maybe it's nobody turn, because chechoo on igling. This year 1 player drop for sure before champ 2025.

huh ? source ? there is zero chances that chichoo is igling

#17
kfan4238173
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shrike- [#15]

we gotta get rid of the idea that a team can win a championship 4v5 lol

plus s1mon had some insane clutches during champs, he absolutely earned his title and his ability as a support player may help him earn another

acend 🗿

#18
Ronyko23
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Simon1 aim is def the problem.but as long as they are winning nobody cares. I'll take cb hfm2343242 aaaay even with worst util.

#19
shrike-
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kfan4238173 [#17]

acend 🗿

2021 was mud valorant, we can excuse kiles being shit because it is what it is

#20
Fal
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eric_5008 [#11]

WhY dOn'T eDg DrOp S1mOn, He Is ThE wOrSt PlAyEr On ThE tEaM aNd NoT eVeN tHe IgL. hE aVeRaGeD a 0.89 kD iN cHaMpIoNs OfTeN gOiNg DoUbLe NeGaTiVe. tHiS yEaR sO fAr He HaS aVeRaGeD a 0.90 kD dUrInG kIcKoFfS aNd MaStErS bAnGkOk. PeOpLe CoPe By SaYiNg He HaS gReAt UtIl, BuT tHiS iSn'T dIaMoNd, tHeRe ArE pLaYeRs At ThE tIeR 1 lEvEl WhO hAvE aS gOoD uTiL aS hIm AnD cAn ShOoT. WhEn YoU'rE aT tHe HiGhEsT lEvElS yOu HaVe To Do BoTh. I dOn'T uNdErStAnD wHy EdG sHoUlD bEaR hIs DeAdWeIgHt WhEn He IsN't EvEn ThE iGl. ThE mEnTaLiTy ThAt MaStErS/cHaMpS wInNeRs ShOuLdN't MaKe ChAnGeS iS tHe ExAcT rEaSoN wHy MaNy TeAmS fAlL oFf AfTeR wInNiNg An EvEnT. I tHiNk EdG sHoUlD dRoP s1MoN eVeN iF tHeY wIn BaNgKoK.

Now now. As terrible as his take is, mockery is not the play. It's just plain annoying and doesn't contribute to either refuting his abysmal thoughts nor shaming his bait.

#21
nobody___100
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kfan4238173 [#17]

acend 🗿

the struggle of cned, starxo, bonecold, and kiles 🗿🗿🗿

#22
EleeA
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nexate2003 [#13]

i thought nobody was IGL

Bro, in recently match I heard from commentary box , he is now igling (chechoo). Btw am also not sure Let's see

#23
-morte-
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There is more to team line ups than just kd alone, they have team synergy and there is no reason to mess it all up cause their could be better players out there. Plus his kd doesn't always represent his skill, his round impacts are what keeps him a good player even with a slightly negative kd.
Think about what happened with C9 when they replaced xeta with curry, they lost all synergy and they fell apart while they were at their absolute peak

#24
Chi-ari
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L bait bro

#25
Blue_Iced_Tea
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nobody___100 [#21]

the struggle of cned, starxo, bonecold, and kiles 🗿🗿🗿

Ok ngl this is probably the greatest bait I’ve ever seen

#26
monkeyman17
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how are there 20 responses to obvious bait... or am i the one being bated here

#27
Blue_Iced_Tea
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kavie [#8]

think about GEN drops Lakia and where they are now, you dont judge a player for KD

…I don’t think Lakia was the player that dropping them affected GenGs success

#28
column1
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Ronyko23 [#18]

Simon1 aim is def the problem.but as long as they are winning nobody cares. I'll take cb hfm2343242 aaaay even with worst util.

Aaaay on edg would be insane

#29
kfan4238173
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nobody___100 [#21]

the struggle of cned, starxo, bonecold, and kiles 🗿🗿🗿

yes the mvp midrounder and flex was such a burden to have

#30
GambleNats
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EleeA [#9]

Maybe it's nobody turn, because chechoo on igling. This year 1 player drop for sure before champ 2025.

nobody is igling

#31
howsyfps
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nexate2003 [#7]

no thanks to s1mon

S1mon joined and EDG won Champs 2 months later

Coincidence? i think not

#32
GambleNats
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column1 [#28]

Aaaay on edg would be insane

no it wouldnt. aaaay has horrible utility he is just a fragger

#33
GambleNats
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S1Mon puts his team in winning position. Muggle, EDG's HC, said that S1Mon is very commanding on how he uses utility which is why EDG can play it off his util so well. S1Mon had the most assists and apr in china and theres a reason for that

#34
howsyfps
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kavie [#8]

think about GEN drops Lakia and where they are now, you dont judge a player for KD

Lakia was ass at Champs tho and went single digits against Sen

without S1mon EDG wouldnt have won champs

#35
howsyfps
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EleeA [#22]

Bro, in recently match I heard from commentary box , he is now igling (chechoo). Btw am also not sure Let's see

it was a mistake lol Chichoo is not igling

#36
Reimsy
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almost got me on this one ngl good bait

#37
zfmarvin42
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nt

#38
EleeA
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howsyfps [#35]

it was a mistake lol Chichoo is not igling

Acceptable; it was a woman* though

#39
howsyfps
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EleeA [#38]

Acceptable; it was a woman* though

lol

#40
Lupusz
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what is with people making 'drop x player' threads BEFORE their matches as if they want to see the team pick up an emergency substitute

#42
nexate2003
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howsyfps [#34]

Lakia was ass at Champs tho and went single digits against Sen

without S1mon EDG wouldnt have won champs

EDG wins champs even if they kept haodong, hell with with how smoggy chichoo and kk were playing EDG would have won with shazam instead of s1mon

#43
howsyfps
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nexate2003 [#42]

EDG wins champs even if they kept haodong, hell with with how smoggy chichoo and kk were playing EDG would have won with shazam instead of s1mon

u clearly have a very basic level of understanding when it comes to vct and team play lmao

Smoggy Chichoo and KangKang were able to play at such a high level because of S1mon and his support

#44
hehe444
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Another Lakia of valorant

#45
foythvlr
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the only team to stick together after a champs win since acend and youre saying this

#46
kappy
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hehe444 [#44]

Another Lakia of valorant

s1mon clears that fraud

#47
LowGun
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kappy [#46]

s1mon clears that fraud

Util wise both are on the same level dawg

#48
howsyfps
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LowGun [#47]

Util wise both are on the same level dawg

rage bait used to be believable

#49
OwenCOA
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he walks so other can run

its like this in every sports; there can't be 5 stars on the team, look at NRG in valorant and psg in football. s1mon does have good aim and is a clutch player, but there will always be a worst player on a team like edg, where everyone is playing at such a high level. and hey, if its not broken, dont fix it.

#50
Toph_
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He’s literally the reason EDG were walking all over G2 for like the first 5 rounds of fracture he’s the reason there’s players can multi frag. Look back to chichoo’s ace on lotus. One of the most spammed clips of that series hinged on his stun…

#51
xXAndezXx
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GambleNats [#30]

nobody is igling

yikes they have no igl 😱

#52
LowGun
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howsyfps [#48]

rage bait used to be believable

lol its not but go off. s1mon does have better aim and has that clutch factor. But util wise Lakia is up there.

#53
ithur
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0/8

#54
Aayan
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this is... a take of all time

#55
grisx23
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LMFAO there is no way

#56
Juna02
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He is the Lakia of China, he has the pass.

#57
howsyfps
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Juna02 [#56]

He is the Lakia of China, he has the pass.

hes far better

#58
yukky
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Agreed

#59
babeFsr
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ok, every team should have players above 1.00 rating otherwise vlr users keep making these kind of thread

#60
Vaaero
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There's a lot of people saying 0/8 but I mean you got a lot of people with this

#61
andre132
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He's there to show that Taiwan's part of China xD

#62
Alzi
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horrendous bait

#63
Dybala21
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You're just jealous he's good at the game while you're stuck at iron 3 for the last 4 years lol

#64
Crypto_816
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He plays breach kayo. Most of his util will be to help KK and you dont understand how hard it is to be a fragging breach or kayo. Most of the round until your util is finished you play by supporting your duelist or second entry. Then after wards you play post by again assisting with util to disrupt their flood. And simon currently is one of the best at that.

#65
Raphou13300
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Instead of writing bullshit just go watch the 2024 champions assist stats he has ....
And he is a monster at clutching

#66
meanmean
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braindead

#67
nexate2003
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Raphou13300 [#65]

Instead of writing bullshit just go watch the 2024 champions assist stats he has ....
And he is a monster at clutching

cope seethe cry

#68
eqqzyy
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imagine blg nephh replace simon,no team can hope to beat edg.

#69
Fonduebread
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It's not a ranked lobby tho is it. Not everyone needs to have a really great K/D. Some people keep the vibes up, make the other players better or make great calls. And even if not, when you have a guy like KangKang who often wins first blood and has plenty of multikill rounds, you don't need to be the one getting the frags, you're just there for clean up in the late round. S1mon is a good example of that as he had multiple important clutches at champs.

#70
HongEunchae
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name 3 people better than s1mon

#71
Haruki_3010
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Typical Iron players who truly believe this game revolves around K/D🤣🤣🤣 s1mon utils are good, he support the star players like kk and smoggy.

#72
penpen
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Toph_ [#50]

He’s literally the reason EDG were walking all over G2 for like the first 5 rounds of fracture he’s the reason there’s players can multi frag. Look back to chichoo’s ace on lotus. One of the most spammed clips of that series hinged on his stun…

and kks guardian clip on abyss in champs final his flashes made it easy

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