Some of y'all complain about how "soft" the valorant community is and then get your panties in a twist over a drawing
Zellsis himself thought it was funny
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NRGSUPERFAN [#7]yeah but thats because its zellsis. i feel like you did that to any other pro and they would feel some type of way (especially GC players). just cuz zellsis finds it funny doesnt mean its not really really really weird.
I agree that it's really weird and people shouldn't post drawings like that, but which is it? Should we care about people's feelings or should everyone have thick skin?
bees [#8]I agree that it's really weird and people shouldn't post drawings like that, but which is it? Should we care about people's feelings or should everyone have thick skin?
there's definitely a middle ground that can be held. i dont think drawing someone pregnant is normal behavior the same way calling someone out for enjoying their team is not normal behavior.
i do think the valorant community is soft especially since the people who play the game differs a lot since the player base is so different from a game like CS.
NRGSUPERFAN [#9]there's definitely a middle ground that can be held. i dont think drawing someone pregnant is normal behavior the same way calling someone out for enjoying their team is not normal behavior.
i do think the valorant community is soft especially since the people who play the game differs a lot since the player base is so different from a game like CS.
you can enjoy your team in a non weird way, if you want to make it weird, okay, but dont post it for everyone to see pls
sp0rtsman [#10]you can enjoy your team in a non weird way, if you want to make it weird, okay, but dont post it for everyone to see pls
i agree and theres a reason why behavior such as drawing someone pregnant wouldnt be accepted IRL. Being online really ruins a persons right or wrong compass
NRGSUPERFAN [#11]i agree and theres a reason why behavior such as drawing someone pregnant wouldnt be accepted IRL. Being online really ruins a persons right or wrong compass
agreed
sp0rtsman [#6]if he liked it, he could say sth like: "i really like this art", some people actually use humor to cope with really uncomfortable situations (my own experience) + it gets more attention to org which equals more profit
Or you are projecting your own feelings and speculating about a hidden meaning behind Zellsis' tweets. If I remember correctly, that fan said she would draw it if SEN lost. Maybe he really thought it was funny. (And did the fan even tag him?)
I personally don't like any of such fanart/fanfic and similar media, but complaining about it or shaming is just as cringey and "soft" as the complaint about the existence of fanarts and "kpopfication" that has been going on lately, if note moreso. Let people enjoy the game however they want and thrive within their communities. We might not like the fanart but it doesn't cause any harm.
Stormbreakers [#13]Or you are projecting your own feelings and speculating about a hidden meaning behind Zellsis' tweets. If I remember correctly, that fan said she would draw it if SEN lost. Maybe he really thought it was funny. (And did the fan even tag him?)
I personally don't like any of such fanart/fanfic and similar media, but complaining about it or shaming is just as cringey and "soft" as the complaint about the existence of fanarts and "kpopfication" that has been going on lately, if note moreso. Let people enjoy the game however they want and thrive within their communities. We might not like the fanart but it doesn't cause any harm.
that fan said she would draw it if SEN lost
its really weird to say that and then draw it AND put it in a sexual context afterwards
i agree but how can we make it that kpopers just stay in their own bubble without others seeing what weird ahh shi they are sharing? is it possible?
NRGSUPERFAN [#9]there's definitely a middle ground that can be held. i dont think drawing someone pregnant is normal behavior the same way calling someone out for enjoying their team is not normal behavior.
i do think the valorant community is soft especially since the people who play the game differs a lot since the player base is so different from a game like CS.
bro i follow a lot of esports and valorant is by far one of the softest and most insecure community in terms of whats "acceptable" to say in the mainstream community,its up there with overwatch and league for sure
sp0rtsman [#14]that fan said she would draw it if SEN lost
its really weird to say that and then draw it AND put it in a sexual context afterwards
i agree but how can we make it that kpopers just stay in their own bubble without others seeing what weird ahh shi they are sharing? is it possible?
I just noticed that you also started another thred in which you said:
todays society and cancel culture, make it impossible for people say things and express their opinion/emotions, without being judged if you even remotely said something offensive, i miss before covid time, when nobody gaf about this woke shit
Surely you are aware of how hypocritical your messages are, right? How is that fanart different from the opinions/emotions you mentioned there?
Fanarts are a part of every fandom culture. Not just kpop, not just video games. Literally every popular thing will have a fan community, and there will be fanarts and fanfics you won't like. No one is trying to force you to like them or consume them. And I doubt the artists are exactly looking forward to the attention of people judging them for their posts.
If you don't like something, don't engage with it.
Stormbreakers [#16]I just noticed that you also started another thred in which you said:
todays society and cancel culture, make it impossible for people say things and express their opinion/emotions, without being judged if you even remotely said something offensive, i miss before covid time, when nobody gaf about this woke shit
Surely you are aware of how hypocritical your messages are, right? How is that fanart different from the opinions/emotions you mentioned there?
Fanarts are a part of every fandom culture. Not just kpop, not just video games. Literally every popular thing will have a fan community, and there will be fanarts and fanfics you won't like. No one is trying to force you to like them or consume them. And I doubt the artists are exactly looking forward to the attention of people judging them for their posts.
If you don't like something, don't engage with it.
i didnt visit the site for 2 days and then all threads i see is abt this, should i just ignore it? should people just ignore it? if people ignore everything then soon we will have pedos walking around touching kids (as an example)
If you don't like something, don't engage with it.
sp0rtsman [#17]i didnt visit the site for 2 days and then all threads i see is abt this, should i just ignore it? should people just ignore it? if people ignore everything then soon we will have pedos walking around touching kids (as an example)
If you don't like something, don't engage with it.
No, you should definitely not ignore criminals, especially pedophiles.
What a weird example in opposition to my post. Posting a fanart does not hurt anyone. If Zellsis were bothered by it, he would have said something. If he didn't, why are you offended on his behalf?
And if you choose not to ignore this, are you also fine with people calling out sensitive jokes or potentially offensive actions? You clearly aren't, which is why you opened another thread about it.
Posting such a fanart is not worse than a professional gamer/streamer making a sensitive/controversial joke. I just find it weird that you are okay with one thing but not the other.
Stormbreakers [#18]No, you should definitely not ignore criminals, especially pedophiles.
What a weird example in opposition to my post. Posting a fanart does not hurt anyone. If Zellsis were bothered by it, he would have said something. If he didn't, why are you offended on his behalf?
And if you choose not to ignore this, are you also fine with people calling out sensitive jokes or potentially offensive actions? You clearly aren't, which is why you opened another thread about it.
Posting such a fanart is not worse than a professional gamer/streamer making a sensitive/controversial joke. I just find it weird that you are okay with one thing but not the other.
i just didnt think of a better example fast enough, my bad, however your last part isnt true, remember Hiko, n4rrate and couple others, maybe it simmed down pretty quickly, but i saw so much hate towards them at the time
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