Chronicle

My goat saving my teams ass

Hope to see Leo back this year and we should be back to challenging for titles

y'all were still losing with leo bro

fnatic needs more than just some roster changes

shrike- [#2]

y'all were still losing with leo bro

fnatic needs more than just some roster changes

Sure but we could still be a top 4 team in the world for sure with Leo back and Kaajak reaching his full potential

shrike- [#2]

y'all were still losing with leo bro

fnatic needs more than just some roster changes

with all due respect, leo top frags on this team, leo adds +20 kills, better utils, better 1v1 conversion

idkmanwth [#4]

with all due respect, leo top frags on this team, leo adds +20 kills, better utils, better 1v1 conversion

i'm not saying leo isn't better than crashies, but these guys were still losing even with leo on the team, there's gotta be more changes to fnatic's gameplan if they wanna regain their 2023 form

shrike- [#2]

y'all were still losing with leo bro

fnatic needs more than just some roster changes

leo playing with covid and derke not in form while chron hard carrying in the 1st half of the season,yeah we were (still are ) shit but there's hope left

shrike- [#5]

i'm not saying leo isn't better than crashies, but these guys were still losing even with leo on the team, there's gotta be more changes to fnatic's gameplan if they wanna regain their 2023 form

leo was sick during the stage 1- shanghai period, kickoff i agree we were outstratted by kc, but the shanghai results were due to leo not being healthy and full potential

shrike- [#5]

i'm not saying leo isn't better than crashies, but these guys were still losing even with leo on the team, there's gotta be more changes to fnatic's gameplan if they wanna regain their 2023 form

The thing is, leo is waaaay better than crashies in almost every aspect but maybe comms.

K2215 [#6]

leo playing with covid and derke not in form while chron hard carrying in the 1st half of the season,yeah we were (still are ) shit but there's hope left

I'm pretty confident that in a world where Leo gets to play at the end of this year and he actually reaches his level again (which is also very uncertain) we could challenge for Champions depending on how good Kaajak can get at playing under pressure.

shrike- [#5]

i'm not saying leo isn't better than crashies, but these guys were still losing even with leo on the team, there's gotta be more changes to fnatic's gameplan if they wanna regain their 2023 form

They were getting to internationals and losing to the best teams in the world not to waterboys. This fnc team isnt even getting to internationals.
Your comparison sucks. I'm sure they'd rather lose to PRX EDG or G2 Than fucking BBL and Giantx

Aquemini [#8]

The thing is, leo is waaaay better than crashies in almost every aspect but maybe comms.

Leo was taking over the comms and solo won us EMEA in stage 1 of last year

Moiraine [#10]

They were getting to internationals and losing to the best teams in the world not to waterboys. This fnc team isnt even getting to internationals.
Your comparison sucks. I'm sure they'd rather lose to PRX EDG or G2 Than fucking BBL and Giantx

i'm sure they'd rather win than lose at all

you can get leo and make internationals but with how the scene looks they're not gonna get any trophies unless they keep up with the others. fnatic still looks incredibly slow in their decision making and that has cost them more than a few tournaments since 2023

shrike- [#2]

y'all were still losing with leo bro

fnatic needs more than just some roster changes

saying this as an nrg fan is insane

henryebread [#13]

saying this as an nrg fan is insane

i can be a fan of a shit team and still point out when a team needs more than just a better player

shrike- [#12]

i'm sure they'd rather win than lose at all

you can get leo and make internationals but with how the scene looks they're not gonna get any trophies unless they keep up with the others. fnatic still looks incredibly slow in their decision making and that has cost them more than a few tournaments since 2023

sure they'd rather win but you're saying they were "still losing with leo" like both are equivalent. We are not talking about whether they'd rather win or lose, we're talking about you equating losing to waterboys to losing to the best teams in the world.

Don't change the goalposts. The discussion is about your initial statement.
Peace.

Moiraine [#15]

sure they'd rather win but you're saying they were "still losing with leo" like both are equivalent. We are not talking about whether they'd rather win or lose, we're talking about you equating losing to waterboys to losing to the best teams in the world.

Don't change the goalposts. The discussion is about your initial statement.
Peace.

yes, they were in fact still losing with leo, and it's relevant because at one point they were the undisputed best team in the world with leo. kept the same roster in 2024 and that was no longer the case, what changed? sure maybe leo is sick but leo was still doing well enough for the team to still on paper be title contenders except they simply weren't. got bounced 0-2 in shanghai (they lost to fucking fut) and then it was downhill from there

it will take more than -crashies +leo to make this team a title contender again. this isn't 2023, fnatic aren't ahead of the game anymore

NioMS [#9]

I'm pretty confident that in a world where Leo gets to play at the end of this year and he actually reaches his level again (which is also very uncertain) we could challenge for Champions depending on how good Kaajak can get at playing under pressure.

i was worried for kajaak with how the off season and BBL game went but after today's game, It's great