I don't think there would be any change to the Japanese teams format, also this is like 1st International LAN for ZETA and second for CR
I don't know why people are flaming them and wanting to delete 1 team off the board :>
Japan 2
Southeast Asia 2
Brazil 2
EMEA 4
North America 4
Latam 2
Oceania 1
China 2
South Asia 2
Korea 3
NA - 4 and CN -3. Its so wrong... I mean EU gets 4 slots because it is not a single region, EU has 3 regions but NA is fking 1 region. So giving 4 slots to NA is not appropriate. And Game hasn't even launched in China and we don't even know how the pro teams will play from there. So 3 slots to China is doubtful. But anyways rest of the slots are fine IMO
Garry [#7]NA - 4 and CN -3. Its so wrong... I mean EU gets 4 slots because it is not a single region, EU has 3 regions but NA is fking 1 region. So giving 4 slots to NA is not appropriate. And Game hasn't even launched in China and we don't even know how the pro teams will play from there. So 3 slots to China is doubtful. But anyways rest of the slots are fine IMO
Fair point but I don't wanna give EU more slots just because its a larger region, I mean like china should be 2 slots only is good but I don't know where to put the other slots on :/
for na I think its fine to hit it on 4 as china, cause there are still shit tons of valorant teams that hasn't have a chance on this yet
vibradorultimategalaxy [#8]lul 3 slots for ch who is a new region and don't have any history in FPS? give this for LATAM
LATAM is a good region to give 2 slots to actually, they are a big region after all
Bucket [#6]If im thinking on a 24 team format I had no clue where to put the other slots
but what you said is very correct
LATAM could have a 2nd spot possibly as an alternative? KRU isn't terrible for being the best in their region.
Bucket [#10]LATAM is a good region to give 2 slots to actually, they are a big region after all
I think the same thing about Japan and they have 2 slots btw
vibradorultimategalaxy [#12]I think the same thing about Japan and they have 2 slots btw
I really think Japan shouldn't get changed, well its just my opinion
wanted [#11]LATAM could have a 2nd spot possibly as an alternative? KRU isn't terrible for being the best in their region.
LATAM is pretty much just KRU tho, the North sucks and the South has really inconsistent teams that rarely beat KRU
Sprouts [#14]LATAM is pretty much just KRU tho, the North sucks and the South has really inconsistent teams that rarely beat KRU
this is literally why i set it at 1, but having 2 wont hurt aswell cause latam is a large region :/
wanted [#11]LATAM could have a 2nd spot possibly as an alternative? KRU isn't terrible for being the best in their region.
the problem there is that the other latam teams are far behind Kru , just like Korea teams behind VS or Na teams behind Sen
NewEulogy [#18]EMEA has the biggest playerbase and despite all the jokes about their performance this tourney (NA>KR>EU) I still think they should get 5 slots in a 24 team format. It is just fair given the 3 regions and 2.7mil ranked players vs Asia's 2.2mil
im not basing any of this into the performances on each team
Bucket [#19]im not basing any of this into the performances on each team
more reason for emea to have 5 slots....
V0sotros [#21]EMEA should get seperated into EU CIS and MENA and have them have their own qualifiers (I'm including Turkey in MENA)
Like csgo, tbh this might be a good thing
EMEA - 4
NA - 4
KR - 3
BR - 3
SEA - 2
JPN - 1
OCE - 1
CN - 1
LATAM - 1 (KRU)
LCQ ASIA - 1 (KR, JPN, SEA, CN and ÍNDIA)
LCQ NA/OCE - 1 (OCE and NA)
LCQ SA - 1 (LATAM and BR)
LCQ EMEA - 1 (EMEA)
I think that BR and KR are a step above other regions (mainly KR), but they still don't reach the level of competitiveness of NA and EMEA, so I believe that there will be 3 places for Brazil (due to the number of competitive teams there) and 3 spots for South Korea is fair. India has yet to prove anything on the international scene, as has China, but some Koreans say they are quite good, so by the range of people there, at least one place should have.
Yugure [#24]EMEA - 4
NA - 4
KR - 3
BR - 3
SEA - 2
JPN - 1
OCE - 1
CN - 1
LATAM - 1 (KRU)LCQ ASIA - 1 (KR, JPN, SEA, CN and ÍNDIA)
LCQ NA/OCE - 1 (OCE and NA)
LCQ SA - 1 (LATAM and BR)
LCQ EMEA - 1 (EMEA)I think that BR and KR are a step above other regions (mainly KR), but they still don't reach the level of competitiveness of NA and EMEA, so I believe that there will be 3 places for Brazil (due to the number of competitive teams there) and 3 spots for South Korea is fair. India has yet to prove anything on the international scene, as has China, but some Koreans say they are quite good, so by the range of people there, at least one place should have.
Koreans shouldn't get 3 also dont base it on performance
V0sotros [#21]EMEA should get seperated into EU CIS and MENA and have them have their own qualifiers (I'm including Turkey in MENA)
no, the main reason of the improvement of CIS and especially Turkey is thanks to play with EU. Because on CIS Gambit has no competion and on TR SMB has no competion.
Nosey [#26]no, the main reason of the improvement of CIS and especially Turkey is thanks to play with EU. Because on CIS Gambit has no competion and on TR SMB has no competion.
i mean like cis should get moved and turkey can stay
Bucket [#27]i mean like cis should get moved and turkey can stay
then Gambit will get free spots and won't improve for playing with the same teams with the same strats, because on CIS the only team who is the "rival" of Gambit is NaVi, the other teams are trash.
Yugure [#24]EMEA - 4
NA - 4
KR - 3
BR - 3
SEA - 2
JPN - 1
OCE - 1
CN - 1
LATAM - 1 (KRU)LCQ ASIA - 1 (KR, JPN, SEA, CN and ÍNDIA)
LCQ NA/OCE - 1 (OCE and NA)
LCQ SA - 1 (LATAM and BR)
LCQ EMEA - 1 (EMEA)I think that BR and KR are a step above other regions (mainly KR), but they still don't reach the level of competitiveness of NA and EMEA, so I believe that there will be 3 places for Brazil (due to the number of competitive teams there) and 3 spots for South Korea is fair. India has yet to prove anything on the international scene, as has China, but some Koreans say they are quite good, so by the range of people there, at least one place should have.
Dont ever compare korea to brazil, you guys have won 0 series vs EMEA, NA, or KR
KR beat both regions already, the gap between BR and Korea is larger than BR and Japan
KoreanOverlord [#30]Dont ever compare korea to brazil, you guys have won 0 series vs EMEA, NA, or KR
KR beat both regions already, the gap between BR and Korea is larger than BR and Japan
??????? wtf are u talking about, I also said that KR is above Brazil ("mainly KR"), and in another post I already said that Brazil is in a limbo between better than minor regions and worse than NA/KR/EMEA. Plus I didn't even compare the two regions so stop talking shit lol
Yugure [#31]??????? wtf are u talking about, I also said that KR is above Brazil ("mainly KR"), and in another post I already said that Brazil is in a limbo between better than minor regions and worse than NA/KR/EMEA. Plus I didn't even compare the two regions so stop talking shit lol
You guys are not a step above the other minor regions, you havent won a single series over a NA/EMEA/KR team
The only series brazil has ever won was against X10, and it was basically dead even
Like did u forget that sharks lost to kru badly? Idk how you laid a conclusion that youre above JP, LATAM, and SEA
KoreanOverlord [#35]You guys are not a step above the other minor regions, you havent won a single series over a NA/EMEA/KR team
The only series brazil has ever won was against X10, and it was basically dead even
Like did u forget that sharks lost to kru badly? Idk how you laid a conclusion that youre above JP, LATAM, and SEA
Yes, to compare a team that according to Team Vikings would be the second best team in Brazil (if they competed there) at that time with the team that, according to all of Brazil and even the teams from Iceland/EMEA, was a much worse team than the others.
Team Vikings played out of the finish line and still managed to eliminate the X10 (SEA#1), it's not like the VS wasn't surprised by the PRX (SEA#1) and crushed them completely. They played against Sentinels which is currently the best team in the world, were eliminated by Team Liquid which was quoted as one of the favorites for the title and SEED#1 in EMEA, as well as in Berlin Vivo Keyd lost close matches against Envy, which completely smashed KRU, which completely smashed ZETA. Just like Havan Liberty that faced NA's SEED#2 that overcame the Gambit that is EMEA's SEED#1. If SEA were a bad region, neither we nor Vision Strikers would have a hard time beating them. I'll only consider your "win a series against NA" argument when VS faces Sentinels/Envy/100T, playing against a V1 with a substitute is easier than facing the current world champion, and you'll see that.
vibradorultimategalaxy [#8]lul 3 slots for ch who is a new region and don't have any history in FPS? give this for LATAM
china is very dominant in crossfire, and top tier team in pubg. you just don't know fps games not only csgo
vibradorultimategalaxy [#8]lul 3 slots for ch who is a new region and don't have any history in FPS? give this for LATAM
Its so early in the game that removing slots is just gonna be bad for the game especially for developing scenes like Japan. they don't have good FPS foundation but their country is super into valorant. Probs has the 3rd highest viewership, they broughtht 220+k on the JP channels and China literally has 1.4 Billion people..you get 1% that 14 million people already.
Originally, I was always cheering for the JP teams. But Iceland was very disappointing.
The same goes for Berlin. I've been watching the JP league, but now I don't feel the need to do it anymore.
JP has a large number of viewers, but JP teams lower the level of competition.
There must be 1 seed for the Japan region. (For JP viewers)
MilanTheMyth [#41]Put Korea 2 slots and Oceania 2 slots. rest is fine.
Are you putting this based off competition or viewership?
OCE has not been verified on the world stage, but KR is well qualified to compete with the EMEU/NA . lmao ^^
gracelaw [#42]OCE has not been verified on the world stage, but KR is well qualified to compete with the EMEU/NA . lmao ^^
oh so based off skill.
MilanTheMyth [#43]oh so based off skill.
Well OCE doesnt have viewership aswell, they dont even reach 10k peak viewers I think
Yugure [#36]Yes, to compare a team that according to Team Vikings would be the second best team in Brazil (if they competed there) at that time with the team that, according to all of Brazil and even the teams from Iceland/EMEA, was a much worse team than the others.
Team Vikings played out of the finish line and still managed to eliminate the X10 (SEA#1), it's not like the VS wasn't surprised by the PRX (SEA#1) and crushed them completely. They played against Sentinels which is currently the best team in the world, were eliminated by Team Liquid which was quoted as one of the favorites for the title and SEED#1 in EMEA, as well as in Berlin Vivo Keyd lost close matches against Envy, which completely smashed KRU, which completely smashed ZETA. Just like Havan Liberty that faced NA's SEED#2 that overcame the Gambit that is EMEA's SEED#1. If SEA were a bad region, neither we nor Vision Strikers would have a hard time beating them. I'll only consider your "win a series against NA" argument when VS faces Sentinels/Envy/100T, playing against a V1 with a substitute is easier than facing the current world champion, and you'll see that.
considering that game between VS and PRX its more likely that VS saved their strats for their Acend game, than they had a hard game against PRX.
zesty1 [#44]Would be cool to see EMEA separated
NA - 3
EU - 2
TR - 2
CIS - 2
SEA - 2
JP - 2
LATAM - 2
BR - 2
OCE - 1
CH - 2
SA - 2
KR - 2
This is the one
Sheikh_Thanos [#45]MilanTheMyth is now American???
No I did it for a day experiencing SEN bandwagon but now I guess I can't change it there is a cool down ig.
MilanTheMyth [#53]No I did it for a day experiencing SEN bandwagon but now I guess I can't change it there is a cool down ig.
How was the experience being a SEN bandwagoner?
V0sotros [#21]EMEA should get seperated into EU CIS and MENA and have them have their own qualifiers (I'm including Turkey in MENA)
This is actually very good ngl. I hope they can make it into this format for challengers next year.
zesty1 [#44]Would be cool to see EMEA separated
NA - 3
EU - 2
TR - 2
CIS - 2
SEA - 2
JP - 2
LATAM - 2
BR - 2
OCE - 1
CH - 2
SA - 2
KR - 2
yea I hope EMEA gets separated into 3/4 different qualifier
AdrSer00 [#48]Also would love to see EMEA separated.
NA - 4
EU - 3
TR - 2
CIS - 2
KR - 2
CN - 2
SEA - 2
BR - 2
OCE - 1
LATAM - 1
JP - 1
SA - 1
7 is too many for EMEA
TR and CIS should each have 1 slot
Yugure [#24]EMEA - 4
NA - 4
KR - 3
BR - 3
SEA - 2
JPN - 1
OCE - 1
CN - 1
LATAM - 1 (KRU)LCQ ASIA - 1 (KR, JPN, SEA, CN and ÍNDIA)
LCQ NA/OCE - 1 (OCE and NA)
LCQ SA - 1 (LATAM and BR)
LCQ EMEA - 1 (EMEA)I think that BR and KR are a step above other regions (mainly KR), but they still don't reach the level of competitiveness of NA and EMEA, so I believe that there will be 3 places for Brazil (due to the number of competitive teams there) and 3 spots for South Korea is fair. India has yet to prove anything on the international scene, as has China, but some Koreans say they are quite good, so by the range of people there, at least one place should have.
brazil does not deserve 3 slots
Yugure [#36]Yes, to compare a team that according to Team Vikings would be the second best team in Brazil (if they competed there) at that time with the team that, according to all of Brazil and even the teams from Iceland/EMEA, was a much worse team than the others.
Team Vikings played out of the finish line and still managed to eliminate the X10 (SEA#1), it's not like the VS wasn't surprised by the PRX (SEA#1) and crushed them completely. They played against Sentinels which is currently the best team in the world, were eliminated by Team Liquid which was quoted as one of the favorites for the title and SEED#1 in EMEA, as well as in Berlin Vivo Keyd lost close matches against Envy, which completely smashed KRU, which completely smashed ZETA. Just like Havan Liberty that faced NA's SEED#2 that overcame the Gambit that is EMEA's SEED#1. If SEA were a bad region, neither we nor Vision Strikers would have a hard time beating them. I'll only consider your "win a series against NA" argument when VS faces Sentinels/Envy/100T, playing against a V1 with a substitute is easier than facing the current world champion, and you'll see that.
dude... do a liquipedia search PRX isnt the #1 SEA seed BREN is, people are so quick to count out SEA teams. just wait and see what SEA can do if we have 2 reps available.
shadowzin272 [#65]No
Why are South Asia and Southeast Asia 2 separate regions
just no
enough Asian slots
take 2 away from South or Southeast Asia and give it to EMEA
EMEA 6
NA 4
KR 3
etc
SA 1 instead of 2 and give one to EMEA or one of the Arabian teams
Big_Floppa [#66]SA 1 instead of 2 and give one to EMEA or one of the Arabian teams
u cannot have half of the teams be from Asia
It would just suck
none Asian region apart from KR show that they deserve it
Yugure [#24]EMEA - 4
NA - 4
KR - 3
BR - 3
SEA - 2
JPN - 1
OCE - 1
CN - 1
LATAM - 1 (KRU)LCQ ASIA - 1 (KR, JPN, SEA, CN and ÍNDIA)
LCQ NA/OCE - 1 (OCE and NA)
LCQ SA - 1 (LATAM and BR)
LCQ EMEA - 1 (EMEA)I think that BR and KR are a step above other regions (mainly KR), but they still don't reach the level of competitiveness of NA and EMEA, so I believe that there will be 3 places for Brazil (due to the number of competitive teams there) and 3 spots for South Korea is fair. India has yet to prove anything on the international scene, as has China, but some Koreans say they are quite good, so by the range of people there, at least one place should have.
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shadowzin272 [#65]No
Why are South Asia and Southeast Asia 2 separate regions
just no
enough Asian slots
take 2 away from South or Southeast Asia and give it to EMEA
EMEA 6
NA 4
KR 3
etc
NO. EMEA does not deserve 6 slots. korea 2 slots is just fine considering F4Qs performance. NA 4 slots is debatable. SEA and South Asia SHOULD BE 2 different regions, SA has a population of 1+ billion and SEA has a population of 600+million why would you combine them? plus the geographical distance.
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