If we are only gonna have a small handful of T2 teams, many of which will be legacy teams, in franchising than we need to have more 3rd party events with open brackets. It will increase awarement, viewership, and revenue for T2 with them competing to upset top teams and claim valuable prize money, it will familiarize people with the T2 scene, and it will build more storylines in T1. Give me a full off-season split with hero base oxg, c9 and dfm competing in 1 group pls
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We need more T2 vs T1 events
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Denjisideals [#2]I love M80
I love tier 1
Seems like a w to me
The most exciting thing about the pre franchising era was the upset potential and the openness of the system, one day all the big orgs could win glory, the next day the guard and ghost gaming could be on top. If your gonna protect your big orgs finances with franchising and have a massive off-season fill it with something exciting.
Also M80 beats half of franchising
SleepyBear [#4]Riot doesn't care about Tier 2, that also will expose them if they lose against Tier 2 expecialy Tier 1 Team in PACIFIC (half of them doesn't even deserve to be in Tier 1)
A Lot of Tier 2 player clear Tier 1 in Pacific
It will create more movement and quality on both ends, T2 teams play officials against T1 teams, T1 teams get a better grasp of the talent in T2.
Also this would be 3rd parties running it not riot
Sushi_ [#3]The most exciting thing about the pre franchising era was the upset potential and the openness of the system, one day all the big orgs could win glory, the next day the guard and ghost gaming could be on top. If your gonna protect your big orgs finances with franchising and have a massive off-season fill it with something exciting.
Also M80 beats half of franchising
Nah fr
Many of the top teams in tier 2 probably would beat these low table sides or even some mid table sides on a regular day
Denjisideals [#6]Nah fr
Many of the top teams in tier 2 probably would beat these low table sides or even some mid table sides on a regular day
T1 2024 vs M80 2024 who wins
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1752/red-bull-home-ground-4/main-event
they did and it's a blowout. It costed RIA's career in fennel before it even started 😭😢
IonlywatchvcjXD [#9]https://www.vlr.gg/event/1752/red-bull-home-ground-4/main-event
they did and it's a blowout. It costed RIA's career in fennel before it even started 😭😢
13-10 maps vs DRX and Fnatic, run these more and more and see what happens, especially with regions like Turkey and NA
Sushi_ [#5]It will create more movement and quality on both ends, T2 teams play officials against T1 teams, T1 teams get a better grasp of the talent in T2.
Also this would be 3rd parties running it not riot
tbh its already happening, Talon get exposed & get clowns by Thai community back then cuz they don't sign primiie and made Thai fans mad (instead they sign Lenne + 2 korean)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1862/esl-clash-of-nations-2023/main-event
Sushi_ [#11]13-10 maps vs DRX and Fnatic, run these more and more and see what happens, especially with regions like Turkey and NA
I think T2 should clash across regions and occasionaly bring a tier 1 team as a mix
SleepyBear [#12]tbh its already happening, Talon get exposed & get clowns by Thai community back then cuz they don't sign primiie and made Thai fans mad (instead they sign Lenne + 2 korean)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1862/esl-clash-of-nations-2023/main-event
they couldn't sign Primmie back in the day because his family didn't allow him to go pro before finishing his studies
IonlywatchvcjXD [#13]I think T2 should clash across regions and occasionaly bring a tier 1 team as a mix
Nah, throw as many T1 teams in as possible, more tier 1 vs tier 1 matchups, more competition, more excitement for upsets, etc
ButterflyEffect23 [#14]they couldn't sign Primmie back in the day because his family didn't allow him to go pro before finishing his studies
its not just Prime they trials a lot of thai player, didint even sign one of them buddy
Sushi_ [#15]Nah, throw as many T1 teams in as possible, more tier 1 vs tier 1 matchups, more competition, more excitement for upsets, etc
I agree but you can't pit a single region against Tier 1 teams. That's what happened in Homeground and Riot ONE and That "exposed" Japan , making us (as in VCJ ) looked bad😢 even though the results are pretty much expected
SleepyBear [#17]its not just Prime they trials a lot of thai player, didint even sign one of them buddy
Were they good/did they fit the criteria set out by Talon?
geospliced [#19]Were they good/did they fit the criteria set out by Talon?
idk ask FrosT for that
Kadoom ,Primmie,PTC,JohnOlsen and etc pretty well known name in Thai valorant, are they good? yes
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