Top Excuses/Cope Ranked

1. FNC "We only lost because of Loud" - an iconic cope
2. C9 "Role issues" - honestly if they just came out and said esports was in a rough place and they couldnt afford his salary it would have been much more well-received than this obv lie
3. SEN "Burnout" - At the start it was fair but its definitely not why they started losing to Loud and 100T
4. Navi "Doombros is the problem" - 💀💀💀💀
5. Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" - nah he just fell off, plain and simple
6. NRG "Slow Starters" - nah bruh Biank clears
7. Mel "Not in franchising because of sexism" - yeah thats it......

lmk some more and i'll add them where i think they belong

navi management - doombr0s the problem

chrlxz [#2]

navi management - doombr0s the problem

W fk Navi management

chrlxz [#2]

navi management - doombr0s the problem

thats a good one, added

chrlxz [#2]

navi management - doombr0s the problem

nah ''we are saving strats'' is a more iconic cope

1. sen DID have burnout, but of course that doesn't account for losing to bad teams like EG/LOUD
2. the reason they did lost to those teams is simply because they didn't think of shanghai as important enough to bring it back, especially when they already cemented themselves as the best in the world after madrid

geng experienced the same thing but their desperation to win a masters is going to hurt them for champs

TSMCFAN [#6]

1. sen DID have burnout, but of course that doesn't account for losing to bad teams like EG/LOUD
2. the reason they did lost to those teams is simply because they didn't think of shanghai as important enough to bring it back, especially when they already cemented themselves as the best in the world after madrid

geng experienced the same thing but their desperation to win a masters is going to hurt them for champs

thats almost like saying lebron didnt bother winning game 3 of the nba finals because he didnt think of it as important to bring it back

TSMCFAN [#6]

1. sen DID have burnout, but of course that doesn't account for losing to bad teams like EG/LOUD
2. the reason they did lost to those teams is simply because they didn't think of shanghai as important enough to bring it back, especially when they already cemented themselves as the best in the world after madrid

geng experienced the same thing but their desperation to win a masters is going to hurt them for champs

NOOOOOOOO HE MADE AN ALT ACCOUNT
https://www.vlr.gg/376608/quitting-vlr

TSMCFAN [#6]

1. sen DID have burnout, but of course that doesn't account for losing to bad teams like EG/LOUD
2. the reason they did lost to those teams is simply because they didn't think of shanghai as important enough to bring it back, especially when they already cemented themselves as the best in the world after madrid

geng experienced the same thing but their desperation to win a masters is going to hurt them for champs

weren't u supposed to leave?

fraudulent behavior

ButterflyEffect23 [#9]

weren't u supposed to leave?

fraudulent behavior

i am a fan of the true ideas that were disregarded due to his unreasonable baiting nature... TSMC made the ideas he had a laughingstock just because he said it in a baity way, but I will be more reasonable and explain why a lot of those ideas were genuinely valid
differences include that i do not think prx is good for example and that I am interested in having genuine conversations

n1cf [#5]

nah ''we are saving strats'' is a more iconic cope

“prx threw” “eg champs win was a fluke because prx threw!!!” “prx will destroy eg lmfao” “prx will fuck g2” “prx were saving strats that’s why they lost to geng” you get the point, tons of prx cope around

catNmouse [#11]

“prx threw” “eg champs win was a fluke because prx threw!!!” “prx will destroy eg lmfao” “prx will fuck g2” “prx were saving strats that’s why they lost to geng” you get the point, tons of prx cope around

yes everytime prx loses it’s always a throw 🔥 the other team is never just better

kalayav_n [#7]

thats almost like saying lebron didnt bother winning game 3 of the nba finals because he didnt think of it as important to bring it back

that's not a valid comparison at all what? that's more comparable to saying that GENG didn't win game 5 of masters Madrid finals because he didn't think of it as important to bring back. there's a difference between a series and a tourney no?

heavensentsaint [#12]

yes everytime prx loses it’s always a throw 🔥 the other team is never just better

we winning champs with this one 🔥

Saving strats

if its by how bad the excuses are ill rank them too

BAD

1. Mel "Not in franchising because of sexism" she actually sucks and honestly holds her other teammates back. sexism definitely would hold a player back but in this case? hell nah
2. Navi "Doombros is the problem" actual good coach and developed some really good strategies and metas
3. NRG "Slow Starters" maybe if they only lost the first time kek
4. FNC "We only lost because of Loud" they had a permaban year round, obviously a team was gonna counter them eventually

NOT THAT BAD

5. SEN "Burnout" happens to most intl winning teams who arent optic, loud or fnatic tbh
6. Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" this was true on dsg, what a shit team ngl. not true for bleed tho
7. C9 "Role issues" overhated asf. they were playing xeppaa sova and zellsis duelist. i do think they woulda figured out roles eventually by just copying louds comps and putting yay on jett full time but still, they could not figure out the roles in red bull and lock in

kanyefan4238173 [#16]

if its by how bad the excuses are ill rank them too

BAD

1. Mel "Not in franchising because of sexism" she actually sucks and honestly holds her other teammates back. sexism definitely would hold a player back but in this case? hell nah
2. Navi "Doombros is the problem" actual good coach and developed some really good strategies and metas
3. NRG "Slow Starters" maybe if they only lost the first time kek
4. FNC "We only lost because of Loud" they had a permaban year round, obviously a team was gonna counter them eventually

NOT THAT BAD

5. SEN "Burnout" happens to most intl winning teams who arent optic, loud or fnatic tbh
6. Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" this was true on dsg, what a shit team ngl. not true for bleed tho
7. C9 "Role issues" overhated asf. they were playing xeppaa sova and zellsis duelist. i do think they woulda figured out roles eventually by just copying louds comps and putting yay on jett full time but still, they could not figure out the roles in red bull and lock in

Sen are having burnout cause i am praying every night for their downfall.

Dont get me wrong, i like sen team.
But i hate the fans and dislike the org.
And how i am a spitifull person, i still remembers the zombs beff

kanyefan4238173 [#16]

if its by how bad the excuses are ill rank them too

BAD

1. Mel "Not in franchising because of sexism" she actually sucks and honestly holds her other teammates back. sexism definitely would hold a player back but in this case? hell nah
2. Navi "Doombros is the problem" actual good coach and developed some really good strategies and metas
3. NRG "Slow Starters" maybe if they only lost the first time kek
4. FNC "We only lost because of Loud" they had a permaban year round, obviously a team was gonna counter them eventually

NOT THAT BAD

5. SEN "Burnout" happens to most intl winning teams who arent optic, loud or fnatic tbh
6. Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" this was true on dsg, what a shit team ngl. not true for bleed tho
7. C9 "Role issues" overhated asf. they were playing xeppaa sova and zellsis duelist. i do think they woulda figured out roles eventually by just copying louds comps and putting yay on jett full time but still, they could not figure out the roles in red bull and lock in

Didnt doombris constantly overcook comps, dont get me wrong, he is not terrible, but 2023 navi shouldnt have lost to edg in tokyo

Gerogorum [#18]

Didnt doombris constantly overcook comps, dont get me wrong, he is not terrible, but 2023 navi shouldnt have lost to edg in tokyo

fade on ascent in 2023 😵‍💫

kanyefan4238173 [#16]

if its by how bad the excuses are ill rank them too

BAD

1. Mel "Not in franchising because of sexism" she actually sucks and honestly holds her other teammates back. sexism definitely would hold a player back but in this case? hell nah
2. Navi "Doombros is the problem" actual good coach and developed some really good strategies and metas
3. NRG "Slow Starters" maybe if they only lost the first time kek
4. FNC "We only lost because of Loud" they had a permaban year round, obviously a team was gonna counter them eventually

NOT THAT BAD

5. SEN "Burnout" happens to most intl winning teams who arent optic, loud or fnatic tbh
6. Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" this was true on dsg, what a shit team ngl. not true for bleed tho
7. C9 "Role issues" overhated asf. they were playing xeppaa sova and zellsis duelist. i do think they woulda figured out roles eventually by just copying louds comps and putting yay on jett full time but still, they could not figure out the roles in red bull and lock in

Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" this was true on dsg, what a shit team ngl. not true for bleed tho

that one is completely bad, before yay dsg was a functional team and at times they looked promising

eyza [#20]

Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" this was true on dsg, what a shit team ngl. not true for bleed tho

that one is completely bad, before yay dsg was a functional team and at times they looked promising

maybe it was somewhat yays fault, but when that team dropped steel they stopped being functional

also even before yay they werent that good, they only beat trash teams like mad lions and OR

kanyefan4238173 [#16]

if its by how bad the excuses are ill rank them too

BAD

1. Mel "Not in franchising because of sexism" she actually sucks and honestly holds her other teammates back. sexism definitely would hold a player back but in this case? hell nah
2. Navi "Doombros is the problem" actual good coach and developed some really good strategies and metas
3. NRG "Slow Starters" maybe if they only lost the first time kek
4. FNC "We only lost because of Loud" they had a permaban year round, obviously a team was gonna counter them eventually

NOT THAT BAD

5. SEN "Burnout" happens to most intl winning teams who arent optic, loud or fnatic tbh
6. Yay "His teammates aren't setting him up" this was true on dsg, what a shit team ngl. not true for bleed tho
7. C9 "Role issues" overhated asf. they were playing xeppaa sova and zellsis duelist. i do think they woulda figured out roles eventually by just copying louds comps and putting yay on jett full time but still, they could not figure out the roles in red bull and lock in

i want to believe in mel but fuck man either she starts putting up kingg numbers/starts calling like fns or saadhak or she just fails completely in tier 2

"Burnout" should be #1. Saddest excuse in the books

ButterflyEffect23 [#9]

weren't u supposed to leave?

fraudulent behavior

it is highly advised not to interact with such baiters.

we need to quarantine them from the rest of VLR so that this idiocy doesn't spread