cypher vs kj on haven

I’m biased bc I’m a cypher main but I genuinely think cypher is better. Thoughts? I think he has some really strong setups

kj better, ults for execs and retakes, mollies for execs/retakes/post plants. its easier to break cypher util than kj util, i think cypher is better for hard lurking and ratting but overall kj will almost always get more value with less effort