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Betting
$100 on RIDDLE ORDER returned $165 at 1.65 pre-match odds
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Maps/Stats
All Maps
1 Haven
2 Sunset
3 Bind
4 Ascent
5 Icebox
All Kills
First Kills
Op Kills
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
15
8
+7
14
14
+0
11
18
-7
19
11
+8
12
19
-7
Seoldam
RID
13
11
+2
16
17
-1
16
11
+5
17
14
+3
20
12
+8
yatsuka
RID
15
8
+7
13
16
-3
10
17
-7
8
18
-10
13
14
-1
JoXJo
RID
16
8
+8
12
20
-8
11
11
+0
14
16
-2
14
15
-1
Aace
RID
10
12
-2
13
13
+0
21
15
+6
19
14
+5
19
15
+4
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
2
0
+2
2
1
+1
1
2
-1
5
5
+0
1
3
-2
Seoldam
RID
3
3
+0
3
1
+2
4
0
+4
1
4
-3
6
3
+3
yatsuka
RID
4
1
+3
2
4
-2
3
2
+1
2
1
+1
3
4
-1
JoXJo
RID
2
0
+2
2
2
+0
0
2
-2
1
2
-1
Aace
RID
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
2
2
+0
3
0
+3
2
2
+0
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
1
0
+1
0
2
-2
Seoldam
RID
1
0
+1
4
2
+2
4
0
+4
3
0
+3
4
0
+4
yatsuka
RID
0
1
-1
JoXJo
RID
Aace
RID
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
JoXJo
RID
11
3
2
2
1
50
7
1
Seoldam
RID
16
2
1
1
53
16
1
Caedye
RID
13
5
1
55
8
0
yatsuka
RID
14
1
1
46
2
0
Aace
RID
15
6
2
1
68
2
1
TENNN
FL
14
1
1
1
51
0
2
CLZ
FL
14
1
1
4
1
57
16
3
GON
FL
10
2
1
36
3
0
SyouTa
FL
14
8
2
61
2
3
Xdll
FL
10
5
2
1
56
2
3
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
5
1
+4
4
3
+1
1
4
-3
3
3
+0
2
3
-1
Seoldam
RID
2
1
+1
3
2
+1
2
3
-1
5
5
+0
5
3
+2
yatsuka
RID
2
2
+0
4
2
+2
3
5
-2
0
5
-5
3
4
-1
JoXJo
RID
3
1
+2
1
9
-8
1
3
-2
2
4
-2
3
2
+1
Aace
RID
1
5
-4
2
1
+1
5
4
+1
2
3
-1
3
4
-1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
1
0
+1
0
3
-3
Seoldam
RID
1
0
+1
1
1
+0
2
0
+2
yatsuka
RID
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
JoXJo
RID
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
Aace
RID
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
Seoldam
RID
yatsuka
RID
JoXJo
RID
Aace
RID
1
0
+1
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
JoXJo
RID
2
Round 11
GON
TENNN
Round 16
GON
Xdll
37
2
0
Seoldam
RID
3
Round 4
TENNN
Xdll
Round 5
Xdll
SyouTa
Round 15
Xdll
TENNN
1
Round 12
GON
Xdll
CLZ
TENNN
63
0
0
Caedye
RID
3
Round 3
Xdll
TENNN
Round 4
GON
SyouTa
Round 15
GON
SyouTa
1
Round 13
SyouTa
TENNN
CLZ
1
Round 15
SyouTa
GON
46
0
0
yatsuka
RID
4
Round 7
Xdll
CLZ
Round 8
Xdll
SyouTa
Round 13
Xdll
GON
Round 14
SyouTa
CLZ
46
0
0
Aace
RID
3
Round 3
CLZ
SyouTa
Round 5
TENNN
CLZ
Round 11
CLZ
Xdll
49
0
0
TENNN
FL
5
Round 1
Aace
Seoldam
Round 6
yatsuka
Aace
Round 13
JoXJo
yatsuka
Round 16
Caedye
Seoldam
Round 18
Caedye
JoXJo
1
Round 21
Caedye
JoXJo
Seoldam
Aace
yatsuka
70
0
0
CLZ
FL
3
Round 6
JoXJo
Seoldam
Round 8
Aace
yatsuka
Round 18
Aace
Seoldam
1
Round 15
Seoldam
Aace
yatsuka
1
Round 8
yatsuka
1
Round 6
Seoldam
JoXJo
84
6
0
GON
FL
2
Round 9
Aace
yatsuka
Round 19
Seoldam
Aace
1
Round 10
Aace
Caedye
JoXJo
35
0
0
SyouTa
FL
1
Round 8
Caedye
Seoldam
2
Round 9
Caedye
JoXJo
Seoldam
Round 17
JoXJo
JoXJo
Aace
61
0
0
Xdll
FL
1
Round 16
Aace
yatsuka
1
Round 20
yatsuka
Aace
Seoldam
1
Round 2
Seoldam
Caedye
JoXJo
Aace
51
0
0
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
4
2
+2
3
2
+1
0
3
-3
6
4
+2
1
8
-7
Seoldam
RID
1
1
+0
0
4
-4
3
3
+0
3
4
-1
4
4
+0
yatsuka
RID
3
0
+3
2
4
-2
2
6
-4
3
1
+2
3
5
-2
JoXJo
RID
4
2
+2
6
2
+4
3
0
+3
5
3
+2
2
7
-5
Aace
RID
2
2
+0
1
5
-4
5
4
+1
4
2
+2
6
3
+3
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
0
1
-1
3
2
+1
0
2
-2
Seoldam
RID
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
yatsuka
RID
1
0
+1
1
1
+0
1
3
-2
JoXJo
RID
0
1
-1
Aace
RID
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
Seoldam
RID
yatsuka
RID
JoXJo
RID
Aace
RID
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
JoXJo
RID
2
Round 6
SyouTa
GON
Round 10
GON
SyouTa
2
Round 11
TENNN
SyouTa
CLZ
Round 20
GON
SyouTa
Xdll
2
Round 9
Xdll
TENNN
CLZ
SyouTa
Round 19
TENNN
GON
CLZ
SyouTa
73
0
0
Seoldam
RID
1
Round 20
CLZ
TENNN
40
8
0
Caedye
RID
1
Round 15
TENNN
GON
2
Round 2
GON
TENNN
SyouTa
Round 14
TENNN
SyouTa
GON
45
0
0
yatsuka
RID
3
Round 2
CLZ
Xdll
Round 3
TENNN
SyouTa
Round 13
TENNN
GON
46
0
0
Aace
RID
4
Round 5
CLZ
GON
Round 6
Xdll
CLZ
Round 10
CLZ
TENNN
Round 15
CLZ
Xdll
1
Round 13
CLZ
Xdll
SyouTa
1
Round 6
CLZ
68
0
0
TENNN
FL
3
Round 9
Aace
Caedye
Round 10
yatsuka
Caedye
Round 21
JoXJo
Seoldam
40
0
0
CLZ
FL
4
Round 14
Aace
Seoldam
Round 15
yatsuka
Caedye
Round 16
Seoldam
yatsuka
Round 17
yatsuka
Aace
53
4
0
GON
FL
1
Round 21
Caedye
Aace
1
Round 7
Seoldam
JoXJo
Aace
34
1
0
SyouTa
FL
5
Round 2
yatsuka
Seoldam
Round 4
Aace
yatsuka
Round 11
Caedye
Aace
Round 15
Seoldam
Aace
Round 18
Aace
JoXJo
1
Round 1
yatsuka
JoXJo
Caedye
2
Round 9
JoXJo
Round 15
Aace
68
1
2
Xdll
FL
4
Round 3
Caedye
JoXJo
Xdll
Round 4
Caedye
JoXJo
Round 5
yatsuka
Caedye
Round 6
yatsuka
Seoldam
3
Round 12
yatsuka
Caedye
JoXJo
Round 14
JoXJo
yatsuka
Caedye
Round 16
JoXJo
Caedye
Aace
1
Round 8
Caedye
yatsuka
Aace
JoXJo
1
Round 11
JoXJo
88
0
1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
2
1
+1
2
0
+2
4
0
+4
2
1
+1
3
2
+1
Seoldam
RID
2
0
+2
2
4
-2
1
0
+1
2
1
+1
yatsuka
RID
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
0
2
-2
1
1
+0
JoXJo
RID
3
1
+2
0
1
-1
1
4
-3
1
0
+1
Aace
RID
1
0
+1
1
2
-1
1
0
+1
5
1
+4
2
1
+1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
Seoldam
RID
yatsuka
RID
1
0
+1
JoXJo
RID
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
Aace
RID
1
0
+1
1
1
+0
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
Seoldam
RID
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
yatsuka
RID
0
1
-1
JoXJo
RID
Aace
RID
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
JoXJo
RID
34
0
0
Seoldam
RID
2
Round 19
CLZ
SyouTa
Round 24
SyouTa
GON
46
8
0
Caedye
RID
4
Round 15
SyouTa
CLZ
Round 19
GON
Xdll
Round 22
CLZ
Xdll
Round 24
Xdll
TENNN
98
0
0
yatsuka
RID
22
1
0
Aace
RID
2
Round 18
SyouTa
CLZ
TENNN
Round 23
Xdll
GON
TENNN
1
Round 18
SyouTa
TENNN
CLZ
114
0
0
TENNN
FL
36
0
0
CLZ
FL
26
0
1
GON
FL
1
Round 20
yatsuka
Caedye
31
0
0
SyouTa
FL
2
Round 17
Seoldam
Aace
Round 23
Aace
Seoldam
1
Round 16
JoXJo
Seoldam
yatsuka
58
0
0
Xdll
FL
1
Round 17
Caedye
yatsuka
58
0
1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
2
3
-1
2
5
-3
2
5
-3
3
1
+2
3
4
-1
Seoldam
RID
5
3
+2
7
5
+2
7
3
+4
5
2
+3
5
3
+2
yatsuka
RID
3
1
+2
4
5
-1
1
4
-3
3
5
-2
2
1
+1
JoXJo
RID
2
2
+0
2
6
-4
4
1
+3
3
4
-1
6
3
+3
Aace
RID
5
4
+1
4
3
+1
8
2
+6
4
4
+0
4
2
+2
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
2
0
+2
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
Seoldam
RID
0
1
-1
2
1
+1
2
0
+2
0
1
-1
1
2
-1
yatsuka
RID
1
0
+1
1
2
-1
1
0
+1
JoXJo
RID
2
1
+1
0
1
-1
Aace
RID
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
1
0
+1
0
2
-2
Seoldam
RID
1
2
-1
3
0
+3
2
0
+2
3
0
+3
yatsuka
RID
JoXJo
RID
Aace
RID
0
1
-1
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
JoXJo
RID
4
Round 5
Xdll
CLZ
Round 6
CLZ
TENNN
Round 17
Xdll
GON
Round 19
Xdll
TENNN
1
Round 16
TENNN
53
4
0
Seoldam
RID
6
Round 2
GON
CLZ
Round 4
TENNN
CLZ
Round 10
Xdll
CLZ
Round 11
TENNN
Xdll
Round 20
CLZ
SyouTa
Round 25
SyouTa
TENNN
2
Round 12
SyouTa
TENNN
GON
Round 22
SyouTa
CLZ
GON
1
Round 12
GON
64
0
1
Caedye
RID
3
Round 7
SyouTa
CLZ
Round 8
SyouTa
TENNN
Round 16
CLZ
Xdll
32
0
0
yatsuka
RID
2
Round 11
SyouTa
CLZ
Round 25
GON
Xdll
1
Round 3
GON
Xdll
TENNN
56
1
0
Aace
RID
5
Round 6
SyouTa
Xdll
Round 7
TENNN
GON
Round 9
SyouTa
CLZ
Round 12
CLZ
Xdll
Round 20
GON
TENNN
2
Round 21
TENNN
CLZ
Xdll
Round 26
SyouTa
CLZ
GON
1
Round 6
Xdll
60
2
1
TENNN
FL
4
Round 3
Seoldam
Aace
Round 5
yatsuka
Aace
Round 16
yatsuka
Caedye
Round 17
JoXJo
yatsuka
1
Round 17
JoXJo
yatsuka
43
0
1
CLZ
FL
2
Round 16
Seoldam
Aace
Round 24
JoXJo
Caedye
1
Round 15
yatsuka
Seoldam
Caedye
Aace
1
Round 3
yatsuka
51
2
0
GON
FL
3
Round 12
Aace
JoXJo
Round 13
Caedye
Aace
Round 21
Seoldam
Aace
1
Round 21
Aace
31
0
0
SyouTa
FL
5
Round 2
JoXJo
Seoldam
Round 11
Aace
JoXJo
Round 14
yatsuka
JoXJo
Round 23
JoXJo
yatsuka
Round 24
Aace
Seoldam
2
Round 4
Caedye
yatsuka
Seoldam
Round 17
Caedye
Seoldam
Aace
65
1
1
Xdll
FL
2
Round 6
JoXJo
Caedye
Round 14
Seoldam
Caedye
1
Round 1
Aace
JoXJo
Seoldam
32
2
1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
2
1
+1
3
4
-1
4
6
-2
5
2
+3
3
2
+1
Seoldam
RID
3
6
-3
4
2
+2
3
2
+1
4
3
+1
4
1
+3
yatsuka
RID
7
4
+3
3
4
-1
3
2
+1
2
5
-3
4
3
+1
JoXJo
RID
4
2
+2
3
2
+1
2
3
-1
3
5
-2
3
3
+0
Aace
RID
1
1
+0
5
2
+3
2
5
-3
4
4
+0
4
5
-1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
Seoldam
RID
2
2
+0
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
2
1
+1
yatsuka
RID
2
1
+1
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
1
1
+0
JoXJo
RID
Aace
RID
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
GON
FL
SyouTa
FL
CLZ
FL
TENNN
FL
Xdll
FL
Caedye
RID
Seoldam
RID
2
0
+2
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
yatsuka
RID
JoXJo
RID
Aace
RID
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
JoXJo
RID
3
Round 8
GON
TENNN
Round 15
GON
Xdll
Round 17
GON
TENNN
1
Round 22
Xdll
CLZ
SyouTa
1
Round 8
TENNN
1
Round 22
CLZ
SyouTa
54
1
1
Seoldam
RID
4
Round 1
GON
TENNN
Round 4
TENNN
SyouTa
Round 12
SyouTa
TENNN
Round 13
Xdll
CLZ
52
0
0
Caedye
RID
2
Round 15
SyouTa
TENNN
Round 17
Xdll
CLZ
2
Round 3
GON
Xdll
TENNN
Round 19
SyouTa
CLZ
TENNN
55
8
0
yatsuka
RID
5
Round 4
GON
Xdll
Round 8
Xdll
CLZ
Round 11
SyouTa
Xdll
Round 13
TENNN
GON
Round 18
GON
Xdll
1
Round 13
GON
60
0
0
Aace
RID
3
Round 2
SyouTa
CLZ
Round 9
GON
Xdll
Round 14
TENNN
SyouTa
1
Round 6
TENNN
CLZ
SyouTa
47
0
0
TENNN
FL
2
Round 8
Aace
Caedye
Round 18
JoXJo
yatsuka
1
Round 1
yatsuka
JoXJo
Caedye
65
0
1
CLZ
FL
5
Round 10
Caedye
Aace
Round 12
JoXJo
Seoldam
Round 16
Aace
JoXJo
Round 21
Caedye
yatsuka
Round 22
Caedye
Aace
2
Round 12
Seoldam
Round 18
Aace
73
4
2
GON
FL
3
Round 8
yatsuka
Seoldam
Round 10
Seoldam
JoXJo
Round 13
Caedye
JoXJo
50
2
0
SyouTa
FL
1
Round 7
Caedye
yatsuka
2
Round 11
Caedye
JoXJo
Aace
Round 20
Caedye
Seoldam
Aace
54
0
0
Xdll
FL
2
Round 6
JoXJo
Aace
Round 21
Seoldam
Aace
52
0
0
Head-to-head
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#1
Motendo4ever
1
Frags
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RIddel order 3-0

#2
ryuthe
-3
Frags
+

RID-MRG 2-3

#3
lady_ant
6
Frags
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Riddle need to win this and ascension. Otherwise, the same thing will happen again. Seoldam's teammate gets scouted and seoldam left alone. Worst case, seoldam probably retire.

#4
melon_fan
0
Frags
+

Caedye time 😈

#5
sen1
0
Frags
+

riddle 3-0 fennel

light work for riddle

its gonna be interesting to see how well they do against other ascension teams

#6
munestar
0
Frags
+

lets go RIDDLE =)

#7
IonlywatchvcjXD
3
Frags
+

Before you guys jump into conclusion on how this match will go , just know that these past 3 splits teams that won upper finals never won grand finals 😭

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_1

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_2

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2024/Japan/Split_1

Let's hope that riddle doesn't fall to the same curse

RIDDLE REALLY SAID RIDDLE ME THIS FENNEL AND BROKE THE CURSE 🔥🔥🔥

#8
Scar98
1
Frags
+

My 2 favorite teams before season started 🥲
No idea who'll win, it'll be banger for sure, and a very solid Ascension candidate

#9
IonlywatchvcjXD
0
Frags
+

It's either going to be a banger or blowout lol

#10
mycool57
-2
Frags
+

RID 5 - 0 FL
EZ MONEY

#11
bubblecattxx
1
Frags
+

Former IGL JoxJo vs current IGL CLZ
Rookies vs Veterans

Both teams has the potential to win. This is for sure gonna be a banger match

#12
straybullet
0
Frags
+

ex-NTH vs ex-NTH
Seoldam vs TENNN
let's gooooo

#13
straybullet
0
Frags
+
IonlywatchvcjXD [#9]

It's either going to be a banger or blowout lol

SyouTa also use Cypher OMG, FENNEL FLEX GOD and TENNN Raze is back

#14
arin2016
1
Frags
+

My heart cannot take this. On one hand, FL looks shaky and even if they win grand finals, I doubt how much I can put my trust in them to win Ascension. On the other hand, RID might break even if they win Ascension.

Of course, I want the team that can win it all to go to Ascension, but I also love FL. Fuck. I'm going to lose my shit tomorrow.

#15
Jinxypoo
0
Frags
+

Riddle please win 🙏🙏🙏

#16
highlyte
1
Frags
+

I hope whoever wins will be able to defend the title of VCJ winner at Ascension with honor

#17
straybullet
-1
Frags
+

Good luck Tenkin, show us your Macho Aim #FLWIN

#18
Scar98
0
Frags
+
arin2016 [#14]

My heart cannot take this. On one hand, FL looks shaky and even if they win grand finals, I doubt how much I can put my trust in them to win Ascension. On the other hand, RID might break even if they win Ascension.

Of course, I want the team that can win it all to go to Ascension, but I also love FL. Fuck. I'm going to lose my shit tomorrow.

Why do you say RID might break?
Because of their players ages?

#19
IonlywatchvcjXD
0
Frags
+
Scar98 [#18]

Why do you say RID might break?
Because of their players ages?

Upper final curse + choking (age)

#20
arin2016
0
Frags
+
Scar98 [#18]

Why do you say RID might break?
Because of their players ages?

Age is one of the factors among many. Some players will most certainly be poached. No point in waiting another whole year to get a shot at winning ascension when you can directly get a ticket to franchised teams.

#21
2NaCl
0
Frags
+

I just want the winner of this to win ascension

#22
killurself
0
Frags
+

fuck, riddle and fennel on final? I can't take this shit. why can't riot give two slot for both teams bro

#23
charleser
0
Frags
+

Would love to see the winner of this match win Ascension. My heart leans towards Riddle Order.

#24
mycool57
-2
Frags
+

RID 5 - 0
i just don't want to see FL at Ascension

#25
KInggZYnn
0
Frags
+

is there tech pause?

#26
IonlywatchvcjXD
0
Frags
+
KInggZYnn [#25]

is there tech pause?

Not really , the match hasn't started yet

#27
bubblecattxx
0
Frags
+

whats taking them so long to start?

#28
IonlywatchvcjXD
0
Frags
+
bubblecattxx [#27]

whats taking them so long to start?

They want to showcase the venue it seems

#29
bubblecattxx
0
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+
IonlywatchvcjXD [#28]

They want to showcase the venue it seems

that doesnt make sense, they usually have a section for that in between maps, and the casters have been yapping for half an hour already

#30
IonlywatchvcjXD
0
Frags
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bubblecattxx [#29]

that doesnt make sense, they usually have a section for that in between maps, and the casters have been yapping for half an hour already

Idk lol there's probably something behind the scene 😅

#31
maxrr
0
Frags
+

bro the stream started 2 hrs ago hurry it up bro

#32
botfragger432
1
Frags
+
Motendo4ever [#1]

RIddel order 3-0

Riddle Order 3-1 Fennel seeds 🗿

#33
IonlywatchvcjXD
0
Frags
+

They are trolling comps now 😭

#34
PP12123213123
0
Frags
+

Any english watchparty?

#35
bubblecattxx
0
Frags
+

if FL loses to this troll ass comp then its joever

#36
EyeZick
1
Frags
+

I actually REALLY like this comp, allows every player to just send smokes and then shoot the fuck out of their gun, basically a warmup, if they dont shoot they lose if they do this might look insane

#37
sherry_987
8
Frags
+

the caster just said that the riddle's comp was a miss pick from riddle lol
but they weren't allowed to remake it cuz they already saw fennel's comp
all of them are on wrong agents LMAO

#38
EyeZick
0
Frags
+
sherry_987 [#37]

the caster just said that the riddle's comp was a miss pick from riddle lol
but they weren't allowed to remake it cuz they already saw fennel's comp
all of them are on wrong agents LMAO

no way

#39
Kim_Minjii
0
Frags
+
sherry_987 [#37]

the caster just said that the riddle's comp was a miss pick from riddle lol
but they weren't allowed to remake it cuz they already saw fennel's comp
all of them are on wrong agents LMAO

This is fking joke lmao, how you miss pick in grandfinal, no wonder i feel weird with this comp

#40
KlobotXXL
1
Frags
+
EyeZick [#36]

I actually REALLY like this comp, allows every player to just send smokes and then shoot the fuck out of their gun, basically a warmup, if they dont shoot they lose if they do this might look insane

xD theyre just misspicked

#41
Aielt
5
Frags
+
Kim_Minjii [#39]

This is fking joke lmao, how you miss pick in grandfinal, no wonder i feel weird with this comp

pretty sure riddle thought it was test like they usually do. IT happens time to time like how SMG did in GC masters

#42
KlobotXXL
0
Frags
+

really fennel? u guys losing to misspicked comps?

#43
Hewru
0
Frags
+

RIDDLE GIVE ONE WIN ON FENNEL JUST TO SHOW MERCY

#44
bubblecattxx
0
Frags
+

imagine if RID just gets tilted off the face of earth cuz of this miss pick

Surely not right? xD

#45
Kim_Minjii
0
Frags
+

If the miss pick impact the ascension slot, its really bad bad lose...

#46
C310
0
Frags
+

Really poorly handled by the TO. All it takes to prevent this is to communicate with the teams.It is already hard coming from the upper bracket without any stage experience, but this seals the deal. Can't imagine their current mental after giving away a map.

#47
killurself
0
Frags
+

tennn def don't want to get kill without headshot. 50%hs is crazy

#48
Kim_Minjii
0
Frags
+

Tf is this caedye wanna run and gun with bulldog

#49
number_one_lakia_fan
1
Frags
+

It’s over for riddle order
Imagine losing cause you picked a troll comp map 1

#50
R1nkle
0
Frags
+

3-1 or 3-2 for riddle =)

#51
_amBrian
2
Frags
+

yall if zeta needed an initiator for this season they should've gotten xdll ong

#52
Cosmic_
1
Frags
+

TENNN my king

#53
VlrUser
0
Frags
+

The inexperience finally showing at the worst time possible...

#54
bubblecattxx
4
Frags
+

Xdll fried RID so hard

I think RID is mentally done, there's no way a reverse sweep can happen with 3 rookies against a FL who went through so many full BO5s

#55
koromast
0
Frags
+
_amBrian [#51]

yall if zeta needed an initiator for this season they should've gotten xdll ong

no, he got a temporal ban for boosting accounts on ranked he couldnt play at all

#56
kiyuri
1
Frags
+

3-2 RID copium

#57
IonlywatchvcjXD
5
Frags
+

The upper final curse never dies unfortunately 😭

#58
Kim_Minjii
0
Frags
+
number_one_lakia_fan [#49]

It’s over for riddle order
Imagine losing cause you picked a troll comp map 1

Yeahh losing cause wrong pick wis the worst, rid can wjn 1 map if seoldam use jett

#59
_amBrian
0
Frags
+
koromast [#55]

no, he got a temporal ban for boosting accounts on ranked he couldnt play at all

ah mb

still cracked tho

#60
killurself
0
Frags
+

i heckin love TENNN🗣️💯 LFGGGGGGGG

#61
killurself
0
Frags
+
IonlywatchvcjXD [#57]

The upper final curse never dies unfortunately 😭

upper final thing kinda suck. cuz lower get all experience and upper doesn't. ofc they forget how to win

#62
bubblecattxx
1
Frags
+
killurself [#61]

upper final thing kinda suck. cuz lower get all experience and upper doesn't. ofc they forget how to win

upper winner gets map ban advantage though, but ofc that advantage is gone when you troll agent picks

#63
IonlywatchvcjXD
-1
Frags
+
bubblecattxx [#54]

Xdll fried RID so hard

I think RID is mentally done, there's no way a reverse sweep can happen with 3 rookies against a FL who went through so many full BO5s

Frfr, for riddle rookies +seoldam this might be one of their most important match yet, but for FL this is just Monday

But tbf I don't think the team's mental is that down tho

#64
killurself
0
Frags
+
bubblecattxx [#62]

upper winner gets map ban advantage though, but ofc that advantage is gone when you troll agent picks

nah how the f can rid troll like that😹 and it isn't riots fault😹🙏

#65
Jihyeok
0
Frags
+

Yo I didn’t watch map 1 and 2 what happened

#66
munestar
4
Frags
+

i know RID got sweeped map 2 but not being to remake haven is just fucked, im hoping a reverse sweep makes up for it

#67
psyber
1
Frags
+
munestar [#66]

i know RID got sweeped map 2 but not being to remake haven is just fucked, im hoping a reverse sweep makes up for it

Bruh these bots aint winning a single map..

Edit: (Thank god they won, reverse jinxed it all the way. )

#68
colZ
0
Frags
+

i heckin love TENNN

#69
atid555
3
Frags
+

RID just lose every of ecoed?

They are so badddd.

#70
GeorgeGera
0
Frags
+

ayo RID choke grandfinals?? surely not no?

#71
highlyte
0
Frags
+
koromast [#55]

no, he got a temporal ban for boosting accounts on ranked he couldnt play at all

Was the ban only for the previous off-season? Can he be picked up if FL doesn't win Ascension?

#72
Diablo74
0
Frags
+

Washed team

#73
koromast
1
Frags
+
highlyte [#71]

Was the ban only for the previous off-season? Can he be picked up if FL doesn't win Ascension?

yes, he is unbanned since he came back to play he was banned from playing the game in general but now he is good

#74
charleser
0
Frags
+

Holy shit Riddle on the first two maps were actually SO BAD they're legit playing either tilted or nervous as fuck, running and gunning, shaky shots, losing to classics, what is happening?

#75
KlobotXXL
0
Frags
+

kekw why ppl expect rid gonna win this match? ofc fennel with their experience gonna win easily especially on LAN

#76
IonlywatchvcjXD
1
Frags
+

I heard the caster said something something about client. I assume there's something wrong with the client?

#77
ayayaay
0
Frags
+

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE

#78
KlobotXXL
0
Frags
+

third map but feels like already 5 map lmao

#79
mycool57
0
Frags
+

WTF MY RID CHOKE

#80
Quannn
1
Frags
+

Riddle celebrating like they won the series ... Reverse incoming?

#81
IonlywatchvcjXD
0
Frags
+

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THEIR MENTAL IS BAD LMAO , THEY LOOK AWFULY JOYOUS ON STAGE

#82
killurself
2
Frags
+

RID got saved by those tech pause

#83
jojo57
0
Frags
+

3:2 Reverse sweep LFG

#84
yehfela
0
Frags
+

Reverse sweep begin

#85
mycool57
2
Frags
+

tech pause esports

#86
mstrpandaddy
0
Frags
+

Fennel gentleman's sweep 3-1

#87
bilim
0
Frags
+
IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Before you guys jump into conclusion on how this match will go , just know that these past 3 splits teams that won upper finals never won grand finals 😭

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_1

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_2

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2024/Japan/Split_1

Let's hope that riddle doesn't fall to the same curse

RIDDLE REALLY SAID RIDDLE ME THIS FENNEL AND BROKE THE CURSE 🔥🔥🔥

it looks like the curse is going to continue

#88
mstrpandaddy
0
Frags
+

1-5 to 7-5 FENNEL NOT LIKE THIS UGH XD

#89
yehfela
0
Frags
+

RIDwin

#90
bubblecattxx
2
Frags
+
IonlywatchvcjXD [#63]

Frfr, for riddle rookies +seoldam this might be one of their most important match yet, but for FL this is just Monday

But tbf I don't think the team's mental is that down tho

ok i take back my comment, the long tech pause on bind really helped them to reset mental

#91
KlobotXXL
0
Frags
+

kekw 8-6 lead on third map, long tech pause now losing. great choke script

#92
Derpp
0
Frags
+

insane throw from riddle round 23

#93
Kim_Minjii
0
Frags
+

This team always losing eco

#94
archetype
0
Frags
+
Derpp [#92]

insane throw from riddle round 23

i watch this game and yeah SPG looks a cut above both teams. FS could challenge them tho

#95
cyk
3
Frags
+

Watching this remind me of how good Seoldam used to be, he wasted his talent by taking a unnecessary break thus fucked up his career

#96
Quanzhing
2
Frags
+

Imagine if they didn't trolled comp in map one >.>

#97
nonchalantasian
3
Frags
+

reverse sweep incoming

#98
shellyy
0
Frags
+
Quanzhing [#96]

Imagine if they didn't trolled comp in map one >.>

exactly this (not really a troll by the way, it was a miss-pick) T^T if they won that, it could be a really high boost of their confidence but thank goodness they stand still until the 4th map

#99
bubblecattxx
2
Frags
+
Quanzhing [#96]

Imagine if they didn't trolled comp in map one >.>

haven gonna haunt them for life if they don't win the last map

#100
archetype
0
Frags
+
shellyy [#98]

exactly this (not really a troll by the way, it was a miss-pick) T^T if they won that, it could be a really high boost of their confidence but thank goodness they stand still until the 4th map

if they won that this would be 3-1 kekw

#101
Fyujin
0
Frags
+

T1 seoldam would feed families

#102
archetype
1
Frags
+
cyk [#95]

Watching this remind me of how good Seoldam used to be, he wasted his talent by taking a unnecessary break thus fucked up his career

jett diffed the fuck out of syouta on ascent. if only he got to play jett on haven. his stats are so close to syouta's despite picking a troll agent on haven lol

#103
toofan1
1
Frags
+
Fyujin [#101]

T1 seoldam would feed families

Hell no

#104
aaeni
0
Frags
+

I really hope they host a master or champions event in Japan again. It would be so hype

#105
Derpp
0
Frags
+
archetype [#94]

i watch this game and yeah SPG looks a cut above both teams. FS could challenge them tho

yea both look kinda mid, what a falloff from VCJ

#106
archetype
0
Frags
+
Derpp [#105]

yea both look kinda mid, what a falloff from VCJ

yeah tbh i wasn't particularly impressed with either team, and SPG looks so fucking impressive idea wise. Don't think i've been so big on a KR team before, but FS doesn't look bad either

#107
yehfela
-3
Frags
+

Vcj is so mid,pac jp=amer Br

#108
shellyy
0
Frags
+
archetype [#100]

if they won that this would be 3-1 kekw

sadly it's only an if :( and if they lose the series, just like what #99 said ;-;

#109
archetype
0
Frags
+
shellyy [#108]

sadly it's only an if :( and if they lose the series, just like what #99 said ;-;

seoldam has lost haven to lose a defining grand finals to send them to a big competition before in a 5 map nailbiter...

#110
bubblecattxx
0
Frags
+

the last time FL played Icebox, it was during the start of split 2 when they weren't performing well. And yet they still believe this no duelist icebox will work? I like RID chances here

#111
Diablo74
0
Frags
+

Reverse sweep

#112
_Nonsense
0
Frags
+

Oh no dont choke now FL

#113
IonlywatchvcjXD
-1
Frags
+

Bro FL looked so dejected 😭

#114
C310
3
Frags
+

What a comeback by Riddle, after that disastrous misspick on map one and the very one sided map two, you probably could have said this match is done. But those young players showed immense fortitude to make this reverse sweep even possible. Eight more rounds and Riddle would be the first ever Japanese team to actually win coming from the upper bracket.

#115
ahdd
0
Frags
+
Fyujin [#101]

T1 seoldam would feed families

0 win

#116
Orik
0
Frags
+

come on man you can't choke like this FL

#117
Hachi899
0
Frags
+

Poor Syouta man. I really hope he gets picked up in T1 if they can't come back.

#118
yehfela
0
Frags
+

Nice tech pause to prove that all jp val is not working

#119
Prontera
1
Frags
+
yehfela [#118]

Nice tech pause to prove that all jp val is not working

Sure. But how much?

#120
Prontera
0
Frags
+

Riddle order lets gooooo!! Fuck dfm

#121
C310
0
Frags
+

Whatever happens this match, I hope the Fennel players are getting signed. Especially Syouta, Xdll and CLZ who are all better players than the DFM ones aside from Meiy.

#122
Lulwy
0
Frags
+

what a game honestly

#123
kiyuri
0
Frags
+

GG

#124
killurself
0
Frags
+

fuck. why does fennel always lose on finals bro

#125
Komodo
0
Frags
+

What a series.

#126
cyk
0
Frags
+

gg, was fun to watch

#127
wololo___
0
Frags
+

RIDORU OODA

#128
yehfela
0
Frags
+
Prontera [#119]

Sure. But how much?

Except meiy core comp

#129
riorndjjdjs
1
Frags
+

nice comeback from riddle.. hopefully syouta gets signed because he deserves more

#130
KlobotXXL
1
Frags
+
KlobotXXL [#75]

kekw why ppl expect rid gonna win this match? ofc fennel with their experience gonna win easily especially on LAN

holy i jinxed them

#131
Nyaatro
1
Frags
+
killurself [#124]

fuck. why does fennel always lose on finals bro

Hour and a half tech pause came in clutch I guess

#132
killurself
0
Frags
+
Nyaatro [#131]

Hour and a half tech pause came in clutch I guess

nah i really hate riot for this. i hate fennel for their fanbase but fennel players deserved

#133
14mstar
1
Frags
+

This is the better output, honestly. With fennel loss, it gives more opportunity for zeta or dfm to pouch players from fennel.

#134
ZekaTheGoat
11
Frags
+

Put respect in Joxjo's Name! This guy igl'd three different teams and won a regional trophy with all three of them.

#135
RA621H
0
Frags
+
archetype [#94]

i watch this game and yeah SPG looks a cut above both teams. FS could challenge them tho

We'll see if that's down to VCJ being more competitive/VCK having more mid teams or if they really are better. Ascension will tell

#136
Aayan
0
Frags
+
bubblecattxx [#54]

Xdll fried RID so hard

I think RID is mentally done, there's no way a reverse sweep can happen with 3 rookies against a FL who went through so many full BO5s

well well well

#137
BoonRealKua
0
Frags
+
_Nonsense [#112]

Oh no dont choke now FL

Nah they've choked right after the long ass pause from the tournament organizing committee 😭

#138
highlyte
0
Frags
+

Incredible comeback for Riddle. Good luck to them on their Ascension!
GGNT FENNEL
I hope ZETA and DFM find suitable players in this team.

#139
2NaCl
1
Frags
+

Banger match I hope RID wins ascension and nt FL I hope they make it out next year if their core sticks around

#140
botcheesy69
3
Frags
+
bilim [#87]

it looks like the curse is going to continue

you sure about that?

#141
bubblecattxx
0
Frags
+

Laz is smiling. He's so proud of his kouhais 😭

#142
GeorgeGera
0
Frags
+
GeorgeGera [#70]

ayo RID choke grandfinals?? surely not no?

Didn't get to watch the game thank god they won.

#143
riorndjjdjs
0
Frags
+
ZekaTheGoat [#134]

Put respect in Joxjo's Name! This guy igl'd three different teams and won a regional trophy with all three of them.

hes truly the mvp

#144
archetype
-1
Frags
+
RA621H [#135]

We'll see if that's down to VCJ being more competitive/VCK having more mid teams or if they really are better. Ascension will tell

VCJ is more competitive than VCK 100%, and VCK does have more mid teams than VCJ.
And yes, only Ascension will tell. But according to the eye-test, I just find more layers to SPG than to Riddle. I actually think if Fennel won they would have a better chance.

#145
arin2016
0
Frags
+

I know everyone here is saying FL players should be poached but I personally think they should stick together (although it's selfish of me to ask them to sit another year) because it's better for the scene.

#146
Aielt
0
Frags
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arin2016 [#145]

I know everyone here is saying FL players should be poached but I personally think they should stick together (although it's selfish of me to ask them to sit another year) because it's better for the scene.

no. It is absolutely terrible for the scene if these players stick around cuz it would hinder the success of Tier 1(some of them belong in Tier1) and appearance of new young talents that could be taking their spots.

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arin2016
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Aielt [#146]

no. It is absolutely terrible for the scene if these players stick around cuz it would hinder the success of Tier 1(some of them belong in Tier1) and appearance of new young talents that could be taking their spots.

ZETA and DFM both have the capabilities of turning a mid player into a good player because of their abundance of resources. Rather than poaching players who have already proven themselves, they should take players who are mid and turn them into good players.

There is plenty of spots left in JP VCL for new talents to sprout in. Just because FL is there doesn't mean that new talents won't show up.

Also, taking players who perform well and slapping them together in a roster has never worked. You have to see if the team even gels first. They can't just take the good performing players from each team and then put them together and tell them to win.

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psyber [#67]

Bruh these bots aint winning a single map..

Edit: (Thank god they won, reverse jinxed it all the way. )

LMAO

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killurself [#132]

nah i really hate riot for this. i hate fennel for their fanbase but fennel players deserved

Yo did FL's fans is toxic or something cause I don't know about the fans

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killurself
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BoonRealKua [#149]

Yo did FL's fans is toxic or something cause I don't know about the fans

there's too much fangirls who's annoying as fuck.

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bubblecattxx
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arin2016 [#147]

ZETA and DFM both have the capabilities of turning a mid player into a good player because of their abundance of resources. Rather than poaching players who have already proven themselves, they should take players who are mid and turn them into good players.

There is plenty of spots left in JP VCL for new talents to sprout in. Just because FL is there doesn't mean that new talents won't show up.

Also, taking players who perform well and slapping them together in a roster has never worked. You have to see if the team even gels first. They can't just take the good performing players from each team and then put them together and tell them to win.

in that case shouldn't ZETA just sign the whole of Fennel? Hiroronn already played and won split 1 with the Fennel boys last year. The chemistry is there already, and there shouldn't be much role issues, then send Dep/SugarZero to DFM so that Meiy actually has teammates who can keep up with him

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nella3
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thank you riddle and fennel

absolutely legendary grand final

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lady_ant [#3]

Riddle need to win this and ascension. Otherwise, the same thing will happen again. Seoldam's teammate gets scouted and seoldam left alone. Worst case, seoldam probably retire.

not enough. caedye and aace already get scouted by zeta. the only thing that can stop them from leaving is winning ascension. this team is strong they need to stick together.

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killurself [#150]

there's too much fangirls who's annoying as fuck.

I guess same problem as PRX?

#155
Denjisideals
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Riddle me this Fennel ah result
W match in all honesty

#156
IonlywatchvcjXD
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Denjisideals [#155]

Riddle me this Fennel ah result
W match in all honesty

I choked my water when reading this 🤣

#157
Zeron
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lets gooo aceee

#158
gordonramsay
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damn seoldam really grinding his way back up

#159
hosh
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a match for the ages, both teams honestly deserve a place in ascension

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archetype [#102]

jett diffed the fuck out of syouta on ascent. if only he got to play jett on haven. his stats are so close to syouta's despite picking a troll agent on haven lol

Syouta didn't play his actual agents either. Also he didn't diff syouta that much in ascent lol.

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Absolute Cinema

#162
catNmouse
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Someone wanna tell me wtf happened to the stats on map 3?

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