"there is no world where icy can make it in t1 and flor cant" - thenutoriousPRO
The Icy Disrespect will not be tolerated
Icy made it because he proved himself scrimming with them not because G2 randomly decided to take a chance with unknown.
There is no way other T1 teams haven't scrimed with flor because of the hype.
First off, the Icy signing was a chem signing. Literally, leaf said they signed him to execute their plans, not to go in and kill everyone. Icy is clearly not on par with other duelists in the top half of t1. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing though, G2 has done well with him on their team.
Secondly, I think if Flor were getting scrims we'd know considering how many leaks there are about scrims.
Iquickscopei [#5]So? Is this aimlabs or something
with proper coaching and support she could be just as good if not better than icy
thenutoriousPRO [#7]with proper coaching and support she could be just as good if not better than icy
we don't know until she plays in tier 2/trials for tier 1
StutterSt3p [#4]First off, the Icy signing was a chem signing. Literally, leaf said they signed him to execute their plans, not to go in and kill everyone. Icy is clearly not on par with other duelists in the top half of t1. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing though, G2 has done well with him on their team.
Secondly, I think if Flor were getting scrims we'd know considering how many leaks there are about scrims.
second part is very true
thenutoriousPRO [#3]flor is mechanically better than icy
Nope, it only seems that way because GC players have shit movement as compared to T1 so they're easier to hit
StutterSt3p [#4]First off, the Icy signing was a chem signing. Literally, leaf said they signed him to execute their plans, not to go in and kill everyone. Icy is clearly not on par with other duelists in the top half of t1. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing though, G2 has done well with him on their team.
Secondly, I think if Flor were getting scrims we'd know considering how many leaks there are about scrims.
How is icy clearly not on par with other duelist
Iquickscopei [#12]How is icy clearly not on par with other duelist
- Masters Shanghai Icy has similar stats to Aspas and has a higher ACS than Alfa, Derke, Saya, Asuna, and Cned?
He wasn't at Madrid, and for Shanghai there's no rating available, but both his acs and k/d are not good.
precipitateng [#11]Nope, it only seems that way because GC players have shit movement as compared to T1 so they're easier to hit
Idk why you think that top gc players are diamond or some shit. They are all radiants just like the players in tier 1.
Iquickscopei [#12]How is icy clearly not on par with other duelist
- Masters Shanghai Icy has similar stats to Aspas and has a higher ACS than Alfa, Derke, Saya, Asuna, and Cned?
wtf u talking about
icy wasn't even in madrid and in shanghai he wasn't even the best player on g2. never disrespect my goat aspas like that again
EseemedRes1180 [#17]This site has the brain-dead take that duelists should have the best stats. But if you loook in game icy has the highest round to round imapct.
The only thing that is sub par is his raze rockets but that can be fixed
could be worse
at least he's not zekken ulting
_amBrian [#19]G2 as a whole has been disrespected like crazy
I've said it before and I'll say it as much as I need to; if they won Shanghai we would have weeks worth of threads complaining about how the other teams threw their matches
if G2 won shanghai everyone would be calling it a mickey
even if they beat GenG and TH
Ballsamolee [#14]Idk why you think that top gc players are diamond or some shit. They are all radiants just like the players in tier 1.
there is a big difference between being radiant and a tier 1 pro
tier 2/3 is full of radiant players as well and they get pummelled by tier 1 teams
TriQo [#21]there is a big difference between being radiant and a tier 1 pro
tier 2/3 is full of radiant players as well and they get pummelled by tier 1 teams
Dawg he is saying that gc players (which are radiant) has shit movement which is wrong
_amBrian [#19]G2 as a whole has been disrespected like crazy
I've said it before and I'll say it as much as I need to; if they won Shanghai we would have weeks worth of threads complaining about how the other teams threw their matches
i don’t even like g2 but they get hated on for no reason despite being good and having insane mental
Ballsamolee [#22]Dawg he is saying that gc players (which are radiant) has shit movement which is wrong
Read again lmao, I said shit !!!COMPARED TO!!! T1
Diebs [#15]wtf u talking about
icy wasn't even in madrid and in shanghai he wasn't even the best player on g2. never disrespect my goat aspas like that again
Indian saying aspas goat. Please stick to skrossi
lemondou [#24]YIKES
What a completely irrelevant jab at nothing.
Average flor hater argument, everyone!
precipitateng [#25]Read again lmao, I said shit !!!COMPARED TO!!! T1
But it isn't shit. It is on par lmfao. It isn't that hard to have good movement and every radiant has similar movement.
Cheasle2 [#27]What a completely irrelevant jab at nothing.
Average flor hater argument, everyone!
It’s obvious, you don’t have to announce it 😭
thenutoriousPRO [#3]flor is mechanically better than icy
they dont even play in the same league / at the same level so how can you even make these assumptions
Psion [#31]he definitely does he just don't care
I’m not chronically online to keep note of player’s ages. I see hate bandwagon, I get on it. My bad
lemondou [#36]I’m not chronically online to keep note of player’s ages. I see hate bandwagon, I get on it. My bad
Ok but like that comment was crazy whether she's underage or not
StutterSt3p [#37]Ok but like that comment was crazy whether she's underage or not
Ikr I am unhinged but I feel bad for kids
Ballsamolee [#28]But it isn't shit. It is on par lmfao. It isn't that hard to have good movement and every radiant has similar movement.
You seem to be equating Radiant = T1, using them interchangeably. That is not the case. Compared to Radiant, GC players' movement might not be shit, but compared to T1, it' shit lmfao. T1 is leagues above Radiant.
precipitateng [#39]You seem to be equating Radiant = T1, using them interchangeably. That is not the case. Compared to Radiant, GC players' movement might not be shit, but compared to T1, it' shit lmfao. T1 is leagues above Radiant.
T1 is leagues above radiant in team play, decision making, and util usage. Good movement is something you should have by ascendant or immortal.
Ballsamolee [#40]T1 is leagues above radiant in team play, decision making, and util usage. Good movement is something you should have by ascendant or immortal.
Again, I'm talking relatively (e.g. as compared to) Radiant movement is good as compared to Asc Imm, but shit compared to T1. There are levels to this. Good is not homogenous, there is better and best. GC is good, T1 is best.
precipitateng [#42]Again, I'm talking relatively (e.g. as compared to) Radiant movement is good as compared to Asc Imm, but shit compared to T1. There are levels to this. Good is not homogenous, there is better and best. GC is good, T1 is best.
no you dumbass, aspas/t3xture/demon1 movement isn't tier 1 movement, its god movement. most tier 1 pros are tier 1 because they're team play, decision making, util, mental, etc, and their movement is similar to the average radiant
precipitateng [#42]Again, I'm talking relatively (e.g. as compared to) Radiant movement is good as compared to Asc Imm, but shit compared to T1. There are levels to this. Good is not homogenous, there is better and best. GC is good, T1 is best.
Again I am saying. T1 is only above radiant in terms of team play, decision making, util usage, and aim in some players (there are a lot of radiant tier 3 players with better aim than c0m). Everything else the average radiant should be able to do.
nobody___100 [#43]no you dumbass, aspas/t3xture/demon1 movement isn't tier 1 movement, its god movement. most tier 1 pros are tier 1 because they're team play, decision making, util, mental, etc, and their movement is similar to the average radiant
" their movement is similar to the average radiant", that's all I need to know that I have been wasting time on an idiot lmfao. Probably most braindead take of all time.
nobody___100 [#6]disrespecting icy is kinda stupid ngl.
with neT they couldn't even beat EG.
with icy they beat EG, C9, Kru, Lev, T1, TH twice before losing, and PRX (top 3 team 2023 btw)
nah you gotta remember tho that g2 team from kickoff was completly different
they didnt set leaf up
they had trent and jonahp switch roles
valyn did not frag even half as well as he does now
the g2 team now is completly changed and its unfair to say that its because of net/icy because there were so many other changes that happened during that time as well
lemondou [#26]Indian saying aspas goat. Please stick to skrossi
why would i compare the goat to the worst player ur either stupid as fuck or just racist lmao
Ballsamolee [#14]Idk why you think that top gc players are diamond or some shit. They are all radiants just like the players in tier 1.
not all of them, some of the top gc players get there being shitlow immortal and then later hit higher ranks
Diebs [#48]why would i compare the goat to the worst player ur either stupid as fuck or just racist lmao
just racist
thenutoriousPRO [#7]with proper coaching and support she could be just as good if not better than icy
being fair she is too undisciplined a lot of times, wo0t got punished because of it against g2 themselves twice and gen.g on the final
koromast [#51]being fair she is too undisciplined a lot of times, wo0t got punished because of it against g2 themselves twice and gen.g on the final
ah yes icy>wo0t
koromast [#54]huh? ofc he isnt but that doesnt mean wo0t didnt lose to g2 twice
there isnt a correct way to play valorant discipline is overrated
thenutoriousPRO [#3]flor is mechanically better than icy
Hard to tell when the tier difference between their competition is like 4
thenutoriousPRO [#3]flor is mechanically better than icy
prolly not true but holy -30 frags lololol
OkOkay [#55]there isnt a correct way to play valorant discipline is overrated
discipline isnt not pushing, discipline is not peeking 1 by 1 when the other team is on numeric disadvantage, trust me im a kru fan we dont hold, thats why i know whats good discipline
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