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T1 NA teams?

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mystbz1

what is the top tier of NA teams? like how many tier one teams are there, and where does the line get drawn between t1 and t2?

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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every team above tsm are tier 1

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HackNaija
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this topic gets brought up every week

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Crayzid
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every team in challengers finals are tier 1

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number_1_bjor_fan
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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#2]

every team above tsm are tier 1

so not including TSM, im fine with that

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number_1_bjor_fan
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imo every team in LCQ is T1

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mystbz1
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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#2]

every team above tsm are tier 1

so faze, xset, c9, nv, 100t and sen?

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr
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mystbz1 [#7]

so faze, xset, c9, nv, 100t and sen?

Just erase C9

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mystbz1
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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#8]

Just erase C9

the ones im worried about are faze and xset. c9 is without a doubt t1

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number_1_bjor_fan [#6]

imo every team in LCQ is T1

this

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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mystbz1 [#7]

so faze, xset, c9, nv, 100t and sen?

I don't know. I just know TSM is T2, I have no other politics.

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr
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number_1_bjor_fan [#6]

imo every team in LCQ is T1

But if Sentinels wins Berlin, every team who is above TSM

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#12]

But if Sentinels wins Berlin, every team who is above TSM

sure. also it doesn't have to be SEN it could be any NA team

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quick side bit. based just on roster, isnt tsm t1?

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr
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mystbz1 [#9]

the ones im worried about are faze and xset. c9 is without a doubt t1

XSET: top 4 team on NA right now
Faze: they aren't the best team, but they get good positions on every tournament

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr
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mystbz1 [#14]

quick side bit. based just on roster, isnt tsm t1?

The only players who are tier 1 on TSM are Wardell and Subroza (but he Is inconsistent)

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any team that has made a challengers finals more than once or has participated in an international Masters tournament

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V0sotros [#17]

any team that has made a challengers finals more than once or has participated in an international Masters tournament

Im sorry but v1 are deffo not tier 1 rn

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DogeForPres
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mystbz1 [#9]

the ones im worried about are faze and xset. c9 is without a doubt t1

Take that back right now kiddo. #XSET #REPTHESET #BCJ_IS_TALL_FOR_5'2

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Teams that made Challengers playoffs (yes, even TSM) are tier 1 teams for sure
As well, I'd say that C9, Gen.G, T1, and V1 are also tier 1 teams, depending upon how they perform in the LCQ

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#8]

Just erase C9

c9 is def t1 now with vanity. They will do much better now that they actually have an igl

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Number1_poiz_jettgod_fan
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Tox1c [#18]

Im sorry but v1 are deffo not tier 1 rn

yeah especially after they lost vanity

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FidelCashflow
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Sentienls, Envy, 100T, Xset, TSM, Gen. G. Maybe Rise, C9, and Faze.

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T1 is T1

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Tox1c [#18]

Im sorry but v1 are deffo not tier 1 rn

I guess they're an exception, but basically all the rest are t1

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zenv [#24]

T1 is T1

no t1 is not t1. tq might be t1, but t1 is NOT t1

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#11]

I don't know. I just know TSM is T2, I have no other politics.

Fnatic heavy T2... they couldn't even make the fucking EMEA playoffs hahahahahahah... as a matter of fact they T3 now that boaster is gone

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#12]

But if Sentinels wins Berlin, every team who is above TSM

Hate boner for TSM much?... they beat GenG everytime and they are somehow T1? Lmfao stfu

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Number1_poiz_jettgod_fan
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EU_quiet [#27]

Fnatic heavy T2... they couldn't even make the fucking EMEA playoffs hahahahahahah... as a matter of fact they T3 now that boaster is gone

wait, did boaster leave?

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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Number1_poiz_jettgod_fan [#29]

wait, did boaster leave?

no

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mystbz1 [#7]

so faze, xset, c9, nv, 100t and sen?

I guess LG too.

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mystbz1 [#26]

no t1 is not t1. tq might be t1, but t1 is NOT t1

T1 has a T1 roster but together they're T2

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SEN, 100T, NV, XSET. All 4 teams may beat each other, and they are all clearly 1 step above the rest.

These are the very top of tier 1 I'd say. There is more Tier 1 teams, as it doesn't feel right to call teams who don't place top 4 (Tier 2).

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only sentinels, they are clearly a level above the rest of na...

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