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VCT EMEA stage 1 teams

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#1
The_Cleg

ALL-EMEA teams for stage 1 IMO:

  • ALL-EMEA first team: cNed - Leo - Benjyfishy - Boo - Chronicle
  • ALL-EMEA second team: Miniboo - MrFaliN - Alfajer - Shao - ardiis
  • ALL-EMEA third team: Derke - RieNs - Elite - Boaster - Wo0t

Honorable Mentions: Sayf, nAts, SUYGETSU, qraxs, Zyppan, tomaszy, Keiko, N4RRATE

[format: duel + init + sen + controller + flex + I tried to have 1 IGL per team]

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Brimstan
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Boaster

#3
bonkarfanboy1
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N0RRATE?

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Psion
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just have igl as its own category, like all defense, but only have 1 all-igl team
n4rrate not making the list is a trae young level snub

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n1cf
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First team easily dominates everyone

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#4]

just have igl as its own category, like all defense, but only have 1 all-igl team
n4rrate not making the list is a trae young level snub

I had N4RRATE in the initiator role, and if you consider only the stage 1 how can you tell me he is better than
1) Leo
2) MrFaliN
3) RieNs

I don't see it

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The_Cleg
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Brimstan [#2]

Boaster

What about it

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Gummybears
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Alfajer (duel), RieNs (inni), yetujey (senti), MrFaliN (smokes), wo0t (flex).

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The_Cleg [#6]

I had N4RRATE in the initiator role, and if you consider only the stage 1 how can you tell me he is better than
1) Leo
2) MrFaliN
3) RieNs

I don't see it

he's played both duelist and initiator in 13/18 matches with KC this year, he definitely qualifies as a flex

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The_Cleg [#7]

What about it

mrfallin, ange1, boo all clear in igl and fragging

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The_Cleg
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n1cf [#5]

First team easily dominates everyone

That's why it's the first team

Leo + cNed + Benjy would be deadly tbf

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The_Cleg
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Brimstan [#10]

mrfallin, ange1, boo all clear in igl and fragging

Apart from ANGE1 they are all above him lol, and ANGE1 plays initiator which is more stacked than controller in EMEA

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#9]

he's played both duelist and initiator in 13/18 matches with KC this year, he definitely qualifies as a flex

Magnum is more of a flex for KC
And between him and Wo0t I'd choose Wo0t for stage 1 tbf.

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The_Cleg [#13]

Magnum is more of a flex for KC
And between him and Wo0t I'd choose Wo0t for stage 1 tbf.

the hard limit on 1 flex per team is stupid
he's been better than ardiis this stage, and wo0t's played less games which I thought was the only reason he'd be behind ardiis
10th in acs
12th in K/D
10th in Kast
14th in ADR
15th in KPR
13th in FDPR
1.17 FK-FD ratio
ardiis for comparison
13th in acs
outside top 15 in K/D
8th in Kast
13th in ADR
10th in KPR
outside top 15 in FDPR
1.05 FK-FD ratio

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#14]

the hard limit on 1 flex per team is stupid
he's been better than ardiis this stage, and wo0t's played less games which I thought was the only reason he'd be behind ardiis
10th in acs
12th in K/D
10th in Kast
14th in ADR
15th in KPR
13th in FDPR
1.17 FK-FD ratio
ardiis for comparison
13th in acs
outside top 15 in K/D
8th in Kast
13th in ADR
10th in KPR
outside top 15 in FDPR
1.05 FK-FD ratio

Wo0t played one game less than N4RRATE lol let's not act like he didnt play enough games.
I dont think N4RRATE has been better than ardiis this stage but ig it comes down to individual preference as well. The most important stats between the ones you cited are KPR and APR, in which ardiis dwarfs N4RRATE, apart from KD which is pretty similar. Like ofc N4RRATE is gonna hae more ACS when he has more maps on duelist (ardiis ACS on duelist is better than NARRATE's)

Also tomaszy had arguably better stats than N4RRATE but I dont see you complaining for it, so probably seeing your flag I'll connect it to bias

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Psion
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The_Cleg [#15]

Wo0t played one game less than N4RRATE lol let's not act like he didnt play enough games.
I dont think N4RRATE has been better than ardiis this stage but ig it comes down to individual preference as well. The most important stats between the ones you cited are KPR and APR, in which ardiis dwarfs N4RRATE, apart from KD which is pretty similar. Like ofc N4RRATE is gonna hae more ACS when he has more maps on duelist (ardiis ACS on duelist is better than NARRATE's)

Also tomaszy had arguably better stats than N4RRATE but I dont see you complaining for it, so probably seeing your flag I'll connect it to bias

no, tomazsy can only qualify as viper senti and the 3 viper/senti players u listed all player better than him this split.
i never listed APR, idk where u got that from

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#16]

no, tomazsy can only qualify as viper senti and the 3 viper/senti players u listed all player better than him this split.
i never listed APR, idk where u got that from

tbf I tried to let qualify 1 player for each team to each role because I thought it wouldve been unfairly easier to players who play more roles (since flex is already a role in the 5), and narrate was initiator for me. Still, Id take Wo0t and ardiis over him in this stage. In kickoff he prolly was EMEA's best player.

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The_Cleg [#17]

tbf I tried to let qualify 1 player for each team to each role because I thought it wouldve been unfairly easier to players who play more roles (since flex is already a role in the 5), and narrate was initiator for me. Still, Id take Wo0t and ardiis over him in this stage. In kickoff he prolly was EMEA's best player.

there are teams you can't do that for though
like at times in 2021
Nitro and ethan split controller duties pretty evenly(except for viper maps which steel ran viper) who are you going to put as controller?

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#18]

there are teams you can't do that for though
like at times in 2021
Nitro and ethan split controller duties pretty evenly(except for viper maps which steel ran viper) who are you going to put as controller?

I know but for EMEA in this stage it was pretty easy and it linked up nicely so I wanted to keep it clean since I could.

some teams gave me some issues (especially M8, but also KC and NAVI) but it was clean overall. For other regions it wouldnt be the same

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The_Cleg [#19]

I know but for EMEA in this stage it was pretty easy and it linked up nicely so I wanted to keep it clean since I could.

some teams gave me some issues (especially M8, but also KC and NAVI) but it was clean overall. For other regions it wouldnt be the same

its much better to make a universal format so you can convert the 4 regional lists into 1 list

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#20]

its much better to make a universal format so you can convert the 4 regional lists into 1 list

I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the suggestion

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The_Cleg [#21]

I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the suggestion

if you want to work together on one for all 4 I'm not opposed to it, I know someone who can do china and i can do americas and we can all work together on pacific

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#22]

if you want to work together on one for all 4 I'm not opposed to it, I know someone who can do china and i can do americas and we can all work together on pacific

oh yeah for sure that would be cool, but ngl it would be so hard to try and make sense of all the regions into one single list, could be fun tho lol. Def about pacific and americas though I was already planning to do that

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The_Cleg [#23]

oh yeah for sure that would be cool, but ngl it would be so hard to try and make sense of all the regions into one single list, could be fun tho lol. Def about pacific and americas though I was already planning to do that

if you were already going to do them on your own, do them, i have other projects i need to spend time on

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Brimstan [#10]

mrfallin, ange1, boo all clear in igl and fragging

neither ange1 nor boaster got a shout by the OP, bit of an irrelevant comparison, no?

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Glaciate05
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Gummybears [#8]

Alfajer (duel), RieNs (inni), yetujey (senti), MrFaliN (smokes), wo0t (flex).

-yetujey +cNed

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The_Cleg
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Psion [#24]

if you were already going to do them on your own, do them, i have other projects i need to spend time on

I mean I didn't start anything so I wouldn't mind joining you

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Glaciate05
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All uk team
Boaster - Benjyfishy - keiko - soulcas - ardiis*

*ik he's latvian or something but listen to him he's a scouser

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The_Cleg [#27]

I mean I didn't start anything so I wouldn't mind joining you

ill dm u my discord

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