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EMEA vs AMERICAS: PLAYOFFS ATTENDEES

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UPDATED TO SHANGHAI 2024 with Champs Slots complete, but not Champs 2024 playoffs

SLOTS DISTRIBUTION BY RIOT (All of 2021-2024):
179 TOTAL SLOTS (including Bren Esports for Berlin 2021 and FPX for Reykjavik 2022)
EMEA 48, AMERICAS 61, PACIFIC 53, CN 17

COUNT for Teams Attending Playoffs: (Excluding Reykjavik 2021)
EMEA 27/46, AMERICAS 29/56, PACIFIC 19/50, CN 6/17

Reykjavik 2021: There was no group stage and all teams were in playoffs so EMEA 2, AMERICAS 5, PACIFIC 3 (this will not be counted for the comparison)
Berlin 2021: EMEA 3/4, AMER 4/6, PAC 1/6
Champs 2021: EMEA 4/4, AMER 2/7, PAC 2/5
Reykjavik 2022: EMEA 3/4 (FPX included), AMER 3/5, PAC 3/4
Copenhagen 2022: EMEA 3/3, AMER 3/5, PAC 2/4
Champs 2022: EMEA 3/3, AMER 4/7, PAC 1/6
LOCK//IN: EMEA 2/10, AMER 1/10, PAC 1/10
Tokyo 2023: EMEA 2/4, AMER 3/3, PAC 2/3, CN 1/2
Champs 2023: EMEA 2/5, AMER 2/4, PAC 2/4, CN 2/3
Madrid 2024: AMER 2/2, PAC 2/2
Shanghai 2024: EMEA 3/3, AMER 2/3, PAC 2/3, CN 1/3
Champions 2024: EMEA 2/4, AMER 3/4, PAC 1/4, CN 2/4

Count for sending all teams from the region to playoffs (maximum amount due to slot share):
EMEA: 4 (Champs 2021, Copenhagen 2022, Champs 2022, Shanghai 2024)
AMERICAS: 2 (Tokyo 2023, Madrid 2024)
PACIFIC: 1 (Madrid 2024)
CN: 0

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🥳🥳

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Bro did all this to convince himself that emea is still relevant

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TLDR: there is 1 event where an americas team wasn't top 3, and multiple events for EMEA
when we translate to olympics,
americas has:
5 gold(m2r,m1r,c22,c223,m1m)5 silvers(m3b,m1r,c22,LI,MT) 2 bronze(m2c,c23)
EMEA has:
5 golds(m3b,c21,m2c,LI,MT) 2 silvers(m2r, c21) 0 bronze
12 medals/ 48 teams (25%)
7 medals/39 teams (17.95%)

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EMEA SUPREMACY

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sentinelmain377
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Psion [#4]

TLDR: there is 1 event where an americas team wasn't top 3, and multiple events for EMEA
when we translate to olympics,
americas has:
5 gold(m2r,m1r,c22,c223,m1m)5 silvers(m3b,m1r,c22,LI,MT) 2 bronze(m2c,c23)
EMEA has:
5 golds(m3b,c21,m2c,LI,MT) 2 silvers(m2r, c21) 0 bronze
12 medals/ 48 teams (25%)
7 medals/39 teams (17.95%)

  1. EMEA has 3 bronze, not 0. AMERICAS has 4 bronze, not 2
  2. If we are including the Reykjavik 2021 placements (SEN 1st place, FNC 2nd place, NUTURN 3rd place), we also need to add the slot share back, which is (EMEA 41, AMERICAS 53, PACIFIC 39, CN 10). (EMEA 39, AMERICAS 48, PACIFIC 36, CN 10) is only valid for slot share excluding Reykjavik 2021.

AMERICAS: (14/53) = 26.42%
GOLD: 5 (SEN m2-21, OPTC m1-22, LOUD c-22, EG c-23, SEN madrid-24)
SILVER: 5 (NV m3-21, LOUD m1-22, OPTC c-22, LOUD lock//in-23, EG tokyo-23)
BRONZE: 4 (100T m3-21, KRU c-21, OPTC m2-22, LOUD c-23)

EMEA: (10/41) = 24.39%
GOLD: 5 (GMB m3-21, ACE c-21, FPX - m2-22, FNC lock//in-23, FNC tokyo-23)
SILVER: 2 (FNC m2-21, GMB c-21)
BRONZE: 3 (G2 m3-21, TL c-21, NAVI lock//in-23)

Now - including FPX as a top 3 team for Reykjavik 2022 or not decides if EMEA is better or worse than AMERICAS if we use this Olympic method. EMEA would have (11/41 = 26.83%) if FPX is included as a top 3 team.
FPX was the best in EMEA 2022 and won Copenhagen, the tournament after Reykjavik, and they prob wouldve won Reykjavik 2022 if they were there, but visa issues caused by the war led to them not being there.

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sentinelmain377 [#6]
  1. EMEA has 3 bronze, not 0. AMERICAS has 4 bronze, not 2
  2. If we are including the Reykjavik 2021 placements (SEN 1st place, FNC 2nd place, NUTURN 3rd place), we also need to add the slot share back, which is (EMEA 41, AMERICAS 53, PACIFIC 39, CN 10). (EMEA 39, AMERICAS 48, PACIFIC 36, CN 10) is only valid for slot share excluding Reykjavik 2021.

AMERICAS: (14/53) = 26.42%
GOLD: 5 (SEN m2-21, OPTC m1-22, LOUD c-22, EG c-23, SEN madrid-24)
SILVER: 5 (NV m3-21, LOUD m1-22, OPTC c-22, LOUD lock//in-23, EG tokyo-23)
BRONZE: 4 (100T m3-21, KRU c-21, OPTC m2-22, LOUD c-23)

EMEA: (10/41) = 24.39%
GOLD: 5 (GMB m3-21, ACE c-21, FPX - m2-22, FNC lock//in-23, FNC tokyo-23)
SILVER: 2 (FNC m2-21, GMB c-21)
BRONZE: 3 (G2 m3-21, TL c-21, NAVI lock//in-23)

Now - including FPX as a top 3 team for Reykjavik 2022 or not decides if EMEA is better or worse than AMERICAS if we use this Olympic method. EMEA would have (11/41 = 26.83%) if FPX is included as a top 3 team.
FPX was the best in EMEA 2022 and won Copenhagen, the tournament after Reykjavik, and they prob wouldve won Reykjavik 2022 if they were there, but visa issues caused by the war led to them not being there.

brother, 3rd-4th is not a bronze medal, only 3rd by itself is. this is why in the olympics there is a match for 3rd and 4th place
AMER has 2 bronze medals, EMEA has 0
12/53 = 22.64
7/41 = 17.07

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Psion [#7]

brother, 3rd-4th is not a bronze medal, only 3rd by itself is. this is why in the olympics there is a match for 3rd and 4th place
AMER has 2 bronze medals, EMEA has 0
12/53 = 22.64
7/41 = 17.07

????????
just choose the 3rd best team???

G2 comes from the winning side so G2 > 100T in berlin 2021
TL comes from the winning side and beat KRU in groups so TL > KRU in champs 2021
NAVI comes from the winning side so NAVI > DRX in LOCK//IN

now 100T and KRU's medals dont count and EMEA > AMERICAS

ur dum asf

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sentinelmain377 [#8]

????????
just choose the 3rd best team???

G2 comes from the winning side so G2 > 100T in berlin 2021
TL comes from the winning side and beat KRU in groups so TL > KRU in champs 2021
NAVI comes from the winning side so NAVI > DRX in LOCK//IN

now 100T and KRU's medals dont count and EMEA > AMERICAS

ur dum asf

this is not how it is done mf. I said go by the olympics and you are making your own rules up.

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Psion [#9]

this is not how it is done mf. I said go by the olympics and you are making your own rules up.

there wasnt a match for the 3rd / 4th bro

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sentinelmain377 [#10]

there wasnt a match for the 3rd / 4th bro

yes so we don't consider them....

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Psion [#11]

yes so we don't consider them....

to get biased stats...
alright bro

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sentinelmain377 [#12]

to get biased stats...
alright bro

this doesn't get biased stats at all, its the most neutral outcome
your method benefits EMEA
by using normal tiebreakers in the semis, it favors AMER/PAC
KRU > tl (maps)
100t > g2 (rounds, maps are same)
DRX > navi (maps)
this method harms everyone EXCEPT CHINA, so it benefits china the most BIG WOOP

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Psion [#13]

this doesn't get biased stats at all, its the most neutral outcome
your method benefits EMEA
by using normal tiebreakers in the semis, it favors AMER/PAC
KRU > tl (maps)
100t > g2 (rounds, maps are same)
DRX > navi (maps)
this method harms everyone EXCEPT CHINA, so it benefits china the most BIG WOOP

rounds maps dont matter if its the worse team

shut the fuck up

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sentinelmain377 [#14]

rounds maps dont matter if its the worse team

shut the fuck up

"if its the worse team" mf sometimes the WORSE TEAM WINS
i get you love EMEA delusionally, but please look at it objectively

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Psion [#15]

"if its the worse team" mf sometimes the WORSE TEAM WINS
i get you love EMEA delusionally, but please look at it objectively

remember the LATAM/BR LCQ slot for Reykjavik 2022 and Copenhagen 2022
remember how deciding which region (LATAM or BR) would get a first seed bye to playoffs was based on the winner of the LCQ

for Reykjavik 2022, LOUD got a bye into playoffs because NIP (BR 2nd) beat LEV (LATAM 2nd) in LATAM/BR LCQ
for Copenhagen 2022, LEV got a bye into playoffs because KRU (LATAM 2nd) beat NIP (BR 2nd) in LATAM/BR LCQ

im using this method to decide the 3rd place (bronze) for each tournament but I still included 100T KRU in the stats

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Psion [#15]

"if its the worse team" mf sometimes the WORSE TEAM WINS
i get you love EMEA delusionally, but please look at it objectively

"sometimes the WORSE TEAM WINS"??????????????
why does this matter?
this is about placements...

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allat reading not

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Psion
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sentinelmain377 [#16]

remember the LATAM/BR LCQ slot for Reykjavik 2022 and Copenhagen 2022
remember how deciding which region (LATAM or BR) would get a first seed bye to playoffs was based on the winner of the LCQ

for Reykjavik 2022, LOUD got a bye into playoffs because NIP (BR 2nd) beat LEV (LATAM 2nd) in LATAM/BR LCQ
for Copenhagen 2022, LEV got a bye into playoffs because KRU (LATAM 2nd) beat NIP (BR 2nd) in LATAM/BR LCQ

im using this method to decide the 3rd place (bronze) for each tournament but I still included 100T KRU in the stats

yeah and that format was so stupid and heavily criticized.

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Psion [#19]

yeah and that format was so stupid and heavily criticized.

How tf is that relevant?

G2 > 100T because Gambit got 1st (GAMBIT > ENVY > G2 > 100T)
TL > KRU because ACEND got 1st (ACEND > GMB > TL > KRU)
NAVI > DRX because FNC got 1st (FNC > LOUD > NAVI > DRX)

we cant just not have a bronze medal for 3 events or else the stats are rigged + im still including the 100T and KRU placements as medals...

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sentinelmain377 [#20]

How tf is that relevant?

G2 > 100T because Gambit got 1st (GAMBIT > ENVY > G2 > 100T)
TL > KRU because ACEND got 1st (ACEND > GMB > TL > KRU)
NAVI > DRX because FNC got 1st (FNC > LOUD > NAVI > DRX)

we cant just not have a bronze medal for 3 events or else the stats are rigged + im still including the 100T and KRU placements as medals...

bro this logic doesn't fucking work stop trying to make it work
edit: added "stop trying to make it work"

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