If SEN don't qual and I honestly don't think they will I think it will be perfectly fine. Same goes for FNC or any other team that everyone knows can't win but is struggling. In SEN's particular case they just need time to reset after Madrid, FNC and other teams alike just need time to adjust to the new meta as well, everything is a process and to the fake SEN fans who only came back after the Madrid win and are giving up, you're probably just a bandwagon lol grow up.
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HenBabyH [#4]i’m glad i don’t have to watch this team for the next month, the way they are playing is making my head hurt, they need a mental reset
Facts bro they looks burned out it doesn’t look like the same team that won madrid
TheAqif [#2]no sen is just horrible
All of these teams were at home watching sen’s every game in Madrid, they know all the plays they do so when Sen got back and had not time to scrim no shit they were gonna get slapped
Ddoggy [#8]All of these teams were at home watching sen’s every game in Madrid, they know all the plays they do so when Sen got back and had not time to scrim no shit they were gonna get slapped
Why didn’t FNC/LOUD fall off last year
Why didn’t top teams fall off in 2022
TheAqif [#2]no sen is just horrible
"sen is just horrible" is just you being a VLR user, could you put some thought into your response and give me a general take on why you think so?
Asuna_Yuuki [#10]Why didn’t FNC/LOUD fall off last year
Why didn’t top teams fall off in 2022
Compare their rosters to ours they’ve had super teams loud (aspas,less) FNC (alfajer,Leo,Chronicle) this is the rosters first time they’ve been on top, Sen relies hard on strategy and set plays so when we used all of those plays during kickoff and Madrid we got fucked
Asuna_Yuuki [#10]Why didn’t FNC/LOUD fall off last year
Why didn’t top teams fall off in 2022
And like Sen, people started figuring out FNC and they had a poor champs performance hell didn’t even make Madrid and is barely in playoffs, and loud had a disappointing Tokyo and champs as well
Asuna_Yuuki [#10]Why didn’t FNC/LOUD fall off last year
Why didn’t top teams fall off in 2022
FNC went from winning the first masters of last year to not getting top 3 in champs, everyone expected fnc to win as well, you not seeing this is just clear biased hate towards SEN, and LOUD was never at the top, they were consistent throughout that year and FUMBLED in tokyo, so yeah "why didn't FNC/LOUD fall off last year" CLEARLY tells me you don't know what you're talking about.
As of 2022, Optic was praised for being one of the most consistent teams valorant has seen as of yet, although LOUD and OPTIC both fumbled in masters where FPX won, and FPX fumbled in champs 2022, so yeah, you're just yapping to hate
Ddoggy [#13]And like Sen, people started figuring out FNC and they had a poor champs performance hell didn’t even make Madrid and is barely in playoffs, and loud had a disappointing Tokyo and champs as well
No way you are trying to compare a top 4 finish in champs to getting grouped domestically
The difference between these TWO is INSANE
How, just how do they mot even make PLAYOFFS in their own region
How do they fall off that astronomically
You are trying to compare decent international results to horrible domestic results
Two completely different scales
volcanic [#14]FNC went from winning the first masters of last year to not getting top 3 in champs, everyone expected fnc to win as well, you not seeing this is just clear biased hate towards SEN, and LOUD was never at the top, they were consistent throughout that year and FUMBLED in tokyo, so yeah "why didn't FNC/LOUD fall off last year" CLEARLY tells me you don't know what you're talking about.
As of 2022, Optic was praised for being one of the most consistent teams valorant has seen as of yet, although LOUD and OPTIC both fumbled in masters where FPX won, and FPX fumbled in champs 2022, so yeah, you're just yapping to hate
FPX and OpTic didn’t fumble
3rd in Masters is good
4th in Champions is good
But not making playoffs domestically?
Cmon now
Asuna_Yuuki [#15]No way you are trying to compare a top 4 finish in champs to getting grouped domestically
The difference between these TWO is INSANE
How, just how do they mot even make PLAYOFFS in their own region
How do they fall off that astronomically
You are trying to compare decent international results to horrible domestic results
Two completely different scales
Your right champs top 4 was a good comeback by loud, aspas and less carried them hard. But the rest of my points are valid. FNC is tied with vitality 3-2 if they lose the next game against Navi which is possible, they might not make it. Also chill the fuck down bro I’m defending my team and not disappearing like u always do
Ddoggy [#18]Your right champs top 4 was a good comeback by loud, aspas and less carried them hard. But the rest of my points are valid. FNC is tied with vitality 3-2 if they lose the next game against Navi which is possible, they might not make it. Also chill the fuck down bro I’m defending my team and not disappearing like u always do
When did I disappear?
Only time I disappeared was after kick off but it was because I was traveling
I stuck around after NRG lost all of last year and after LEV loss
If NRG lose to EG, I will still be here
Also the point about FNC is invalid since they have barely any VODs of them this year
Ddoggy [#12]Compare their rosters to ours they’ve had super teams loud (aspas,less) FNC (alfajer,Leo,Chronicle) this is the rosters first time they’ve been on top, Sen relies hard on strategy and set plays so when we used all of those plays during kickoff and Madrid we got fucked
Sacy has won multiple international trophies alongside aspas and Less, TenZ is a mechanically goated top tier smoker who originally was the best duelist itw, Zekken is a duelist wonderkid who has been frying since he was on xset, JohnQT was disgusting in T2 and even back in Tier 1, and Zellsis has been a massively succesful tier 1 player for years. Is their roster on the level of LOUD or Fnatic? No. Is their roster on paper one of the strongest in the world, even pre madrid? Yes.
Sushi_ [#21]Sacy has won multiple international trophies alongside aspas and Less, TenZ is a mechanically goated top tier smoker who originally was the best duelist itw, Zekken is a duelist wonderkid who has been frying since he was on xset, JohnQT was disgusting in T2 and even back in Tier 1, and Zellsis has been a massively succesful tier 1 player for years. Is their roster on the level of LOUD or Fnatic? No. Is their roster on paper one of the strongest in the world, even pre madrid? Yes.
Bro our roster on paper isn’t even top 3 in our region, stop yapping
Ddoggy [#22]Bro our roster on paper isn’t even top 3 in our region, stop yapping
Are you smoking crack?
Mavi [#19]SEN fans hard coping rn, they cant fathom coming DEAD LAST in regular season AFTER WINNING MADRID LOOOOL
They aren’t dead last 💀. There’s teams still winless which they are not
Ddoggy [#25]LEV
NRG
LOUD/SEN
SEN/LEV
NRG
LOUD
or
LEV/NRG
SEN
Def top 3, and an argument could def be made for top 2
Sushi_ [#26]SEN/LEV
NRG
LOUDor
LEV/NRG
SENDef top 3, and an argument could def be made for top 2
Bro ima be fr I don’t even know what we’re debating about so ima just dip
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