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seeding is huge

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#1
PrTsty

masters will have 4 groups of 4 teams double elim
with a 4 team single elim bracket in the end
seeding is actually huge since only first place makes it out. my guess for seed one is top 2 NA ( sen and 100T) first EMEA and first Korea

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also the format sucks, why not just have a 8 team single elim. if 2 insame teams get into the same group its very unfortunate

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Unlucky really

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no way you put the best teams in one group. sentinels, vision s and acend should not be in the same group

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Good format

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only 4 playoffs instead of 8 is trolling hard. prob because of there is only 9 days maybe?

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edtheking12 [#4]

no way you put the best teams in one group. sentinels, vision s and acend should not be in the same group

seed one, meaning they all are leaders of their group

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asseater4life [#6]

only 4 playoffs instead of 8 is trolling hard. prob because of there is only 9 days maybe?

i mean playing 8 team single elim wouldve been totally the same amount of games if u take of the groups finals

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PrTsty [#7]

seed one, meaning they all are leaders of their group

ah ok my bad i misinterpreted what you said lol

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Mdkns [#5]

Good format

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Mdkns [#5]

Good format

Says the guy who has no idea what he's talking about

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PrTsty [#10]

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PrTsty [#8]

i mean playing 8 team single elim wouldve been totally the same amount of games if u take of the groups finals

Yeah just 8 more maps. Riot are stupido.

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Its impossible to be that seeding, bc if it is, literally grand final of NA doesnt matter, theres 4 teams for group, theres gonna be 1 2 3 (4) for the major regions and probably BR JP SEA and these regions gonna start at seed 3.

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asseater4life
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hekzy [#13]

Yeah just 8 more maps. Riot are stupido.

yeah true lol tf are riot smoking

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PrTsty
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hekzy [#13]

Yeah just 8 more maps. Riot are stupido.

not even, its the same amount of maps and games

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Only_Facts [#14]

Its impossible to be that seeding, bc if it is, literally grand final of NA doesnt matter, theres 4 teams for group, theres gonna be 1 2 3 (4) for the major regions and probably BR JP SEA and these regions gonna start at seed 3.

u cant give it to any one else besides emea or na tho. otherwise u have a seed 3 na or emea team playing against vision strikes and a other emea/na team meaning one of them will end up 9th-12th

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asseater4life [#6]

only 4 playoffs instead of 8 is trolling hard. prob because of there is only 9 days maybe?

yep, probably because only 9 days, but 8 teams would be so much better(like football) . Cut to top 4 it's too difficult

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the way I see it: if you were to have two teams qualify for bracket, the four top seeded teams get a bye from the first round of bracket. single elimination so the second seed teams from groups gotta fight tooth and nail to advance.

just altogether sounds like a better structure idk. the current format just doesn't sound competitively great, regardless of whether or not riot is on a short time frame.

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nyari [#19]

the way I see it: if you were to have two teams qualify for bracket, the four top seeded teams get a bye from the first round of bracket. single elimination so the second seed teams from groups gotta fight tooth and nail to advance.

just altogether sounds like a better structure idk. the current format just doesn't sound competitively great, regardless of whether or not riot is on a short time frame.

just a GSL into an 8 team SE wouldve done it

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PrTsty [#17]

u cant give it to any one else besides emea or na tho. otherwise u have a seed 3 na or emea team playing against vision strikes and a other emea/na team meaning one of them will end up 9th-12th

Idk how theyre gonna do it but i dont think they gonna do any region with more seeding bc its unfair imo.

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PrTsty [#20]

just a GSL into an 8 team SE wouldve done it

exactly! sorry for the word vomit lmao

still learning how to TO and couldn't quite put it to words

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Only_Facts [#21]

Idk how theyre gonna do it but i dont think they gonna do any region with more seeding bc its unfair imo.

what??

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PrTsty [#23]

what??

Give some region two seed 1 its give more seeding and make their competition unfair, who wins doesnt take nothing for win in their region

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edtheking12 [#4]

no way you put the best teams in one group. sentinels, vision s and acend should not be in the same group

Higher seed plays the lower seeded team so that no bad teams make it to playoffs.

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Imagine this very likely scenario.

They seed 1 Eu team in to each group.

They seed 1 NA team in separate groups.

You now have the #1 seed in EU with a free ride to the playoffs because they will not have any EU or NA team in their group and since they had the 1 seed from one of the strongest regions they will most likely dodge Most of the other 1 seeds.

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I'm probably wrong, but I thing seeding will be like this:

Group Stage
Group 1: EMEA1 vs JP2 - NA3 vs LATAM
Group 2: EMEA2 vs BR1 - NA2 vs KR2
Group 3: EMEA4 vs SEA1 - KR1 vs JP1
Group 4: EMEA3 vs NA1 - SEA2 vs BR2

Playoffs
Group 1 Winner vs Group 2 Winner - Group 3 Winner vs Group 4 Winner

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sowe_wone [#27]

I'm probably wrong, but I thing seeding will be like this:

Group Stage
Group 1: EMEA1 vs JP2 - NA3 vs LATAM
Group 2: EMEA2 vs BR1 - NA2 vs KR2
Group 3: EMEA4 vs SEA1 - KR1 vs JP1
Group 4: EMEA3 vs NA1 - SEA2 vs BR2

Playoffs
Group 1 Winner vs Group 2 Winner - Group 3 Winner vs Group 4 Winner

seeding isnt gonna be that accurate tho, its proably 4 seeds

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LouBag [#26]

Imagine this very likely scenario.

They seed 1 Eu team in to each group.

They seed 1 NA team in separate groups.

You now have the #1 seed in EU with a free ride to the playoffs because they will not have any EU or NA team in their group and since they had the 1 seed from one of the strongest regions they will most likely dodge Most of the other 1 seeds.

You can get 4th place in this tournament by beating 3 of 16 teams hahahahahaha

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What? Why only 1st from the group advance?

#31
PrTsty
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raka_gg [#30]

What? Why only 1st from the group advance?

i dont know man, they shoudlve done a GSL with SE 8 team imo, wouldve been the same amount of matches

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Mdkns [#5]

Good format

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PrTsty [#2]

also the format sucks, why not just have a 8 team single elim. if 2 insame teams get into the same group its very unfortunate

which will prob happen. NV with acend/gambit

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PrTsty [#16]

not even, its the same amount of maps and games

Well, only if you want to make quarters bo3 and semis bo5. But in this case I'd suppose you make the quarters bo5 as well

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turkey [#33]

which will prob happen. NV with acend/gambit

wow thanks riot!

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hekzy [#34]

Well, only if you want to make quarters bo3 and semis bo5. But in this case I'd suppose you make the quarters bo5 as well

Only grand finals are Bo5 semis are Bo3

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PrTsty [#36]

Only grand finals are Bo5 semis are Bo3

really? i thought all the playoffs are gonna be bo5

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