if you dont wanna respect tenz its sacy sadly
two trophies, one being champs, only player to do so
helped build loud, was a top 2 player in their champs run with pancada, built sen ground up to a masters winner
thats if you go the trophy route sadly
tenz has been top 5 for 3/5 years val existed sadly, nobody else except d0rke has this accomplishment
SquareMars [#2]2023 still happened, I'm still putting Derke as the goat.
stat-padder that only got trophies when carried cannot be the goat
ionlyHave1Zuni [#3]you aint foolin no one
I just said 2023 still happened, Sacy qualified for 0 lans that year
SquareMars [#2]2023 still happened, I'm still putting Derke as the goat.
derke definitly aint the goat, he was the fourth best player on fnatic last year and before that fnatic aint really accomplish much
Chronicle disrespect is so annoying tbh
3 international titles
2 different teams
got cucked in 2022
Hardest role in the team
2nd best rated player at masters Berlin which they won
4th best rated players at champs 2021 (2nd place)
1.11 rating (300+ rounds) at lock-in which they won
3rd best rated at masters tokyo which they won
Lowest placement at an international tournament was 4th at champs in which he underperformed for the first time in his career
False narrative that he got carried in his title wins
FireII [#6]robert horry of valorant
(more like chris bosh)
nah he like pippen or draymond. willing to do the dirty work to win
SquareMars [#2]2023 still happened, I'm still putting Derke as the goat.
whut? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkyou say that as if 2022 didn't happen too, derke where no one in this year, he also didn't come close to being the best in 2023, wtf you yappin abt
SquareMars [#2]2023 still happened, I'm still putting Derke as the goat.
Derke is not even a top 5 duelist
G2thelion [#14]Chronicle disrespect is so annoying tbh
3 international titles
2 different teams
got cucked in 2022
Hardest role in the team2nd best rated player at masters Berlin which they won
4th best rated players at champs 2021 (2nd place)
1.11 rating (300+ rounds) at lock-in which they won
3rd best rated at masters tokyo which they won
Lowest placement at an international tournament was 4th at champs in which he underperformed for the first time in his careerFalse narrative that he got carried in his title wins
2021 - nats better
2022 - lol
2023 - alfajer/leo better
can't be the goat if you're not even the best in your team
jawn [#20]2021 - nats better
2022 - lol
2023 - alfajer/leo bettercan't be the goat if you're not even the best in your team
in which year was sacy the best on his team/best in the world?
jawn [#20]2021 - nats better
2022 - lol
2023 - alfajer/leo bettercan't be the goat if you're not even the best in your team
Such a bs argument man
nAts and Chronicle were not top 2 in Gambit they were top 2 in the whole world.
Chronicle dropped 73 kills in 3 maps in the grand finals at Masters Berlin (the most underrated performance ever)
Same for 2024 all 3 of them were all top 5 players in the world
Who is in the GOAT debate then?
Less and Aspas can't be in the GOAT debate since they were both carrying each other (see how dumb you look?) and Sacy definitely isn't for sure
G2thelion [#14]Chronicle disrespect is so annoying tbh
3 international titles
2 different teams
got cucked in 2022
Hardest role in the team2nd best rated player at masters Berlin which they won
4th best rated players at champs 2021 (2nd place)
1.11 rating (300+ rounds) at lock-in which they won
3rd best rated at masters tokyo which they won
Lowest placement at an international tournament was 4th at champs in which he underperformed for the first time in his careerFalse narrative that he got carried in his title wins
he aint it bro
Steelz [#21]in which year was sacy the best on his team/best in the world?
he was arguably the best at champs bro did you watch lol
SACY WAS + 20 IN A CHAMPS GF AS A INITIATOR LOL
disrespect is crazy man
Steelz [#21]in which year was sacy the best on his team/best in the world?
i’m not arguing for sacy to be the goat
G2thelion [#22]Such a bs argument man
nAts and Chronicle were not top 2 in Gambit they were top 2 in the whole world.
Chronicle dropped 73 kills in 3 maps in the grand finals at Masters Berlin (the most underrated performance ever)
Same for 2024 all 3 of them were all top 5 players in the worldWho is in the GOAT debate then?
Less and Aspas can't be in the GOAT debate since they were both carrying each other (see how dumb you look?) and Sacy definitely isn't for sure
aspas, he can do anything and everything as a duelist at the highest possible level and he has been doing that since he debuted in LOUD, there’s not a single player that has matched him on that
also chronicle was NOT top 2 in the world until after champs 2021 (which he lost to the biggest fluke team of all time)
he was also NOT top 5 in 2023
alfa,leo,demon1,less,aspas (even ethan) were better
he’s one of the goats tho fs
jawn [#32]aspas, he can do anything and everything as a duelist at the highest possible level and he has been doing that since he debuted in LOUD, there’s not a single player that has matched him on that
also chronicle was NOT top 2 in the world until after champs 2021 (which he lost to the biggest fluke team of all time)
he was also NOT top 5 in 2023
alfa,leo,demon1,less,aspas (even ethan) were betterhe’s one of the goats tho fs
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/466/valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin
2nd best rated player at Masters Berlin behind Yay
2023 yeah his champs was awful but easily still a top 10 player in 2024
SmartPerson [#16]whut? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkyou say that as if 2022 didn't happen too, derke where no one in this year, he also didn't come close to being the best in 2023, wtf you yappin abt
GmartGerson W
G2thelion [#33]https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/466/valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin
2nd best rated player at Masters Berlin behind Yay2023 yeah his champs was awful but easily still a top 10 player in 2024
didn't say he was bad, literally called him one of the goats
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