if you'd have to choose 5 current or former LOUD players, who would you pick?
Mine:
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espeon [#5]2022 loud was and still is to me the best team in all of valorant, so ig og loud
yup, it may sound a little bit biased out of me, but I think the title of best team all-time is contested between OG LOUD and 2023 FNC
Vengaa [#6]yup, it may sound a little bit biased out of me, but I think the title of best team all-time is contested between OG LOUD and 2023 FNC
nah for me itd be between og loud and og optic, loud is understood but optic had such a grasp on the chamber meta that it legit reminded me of 2021 cned when teams would full rotate off the site he was on it was insane
trikecycle [#8]Who do you have coaching? Cause all of the coaches are good I think it’s a tough pick
tough choice between bzka and frod, loved both
but probably bzka because of that Champions run
espeon [#7]nah for me itd be between og loud and og optic, loud is understood but optic had such a grasp on the chamber meta that it legit reminded me of 2021 cned when teams would full rotate off the site he was on it was insane
yeah I don't hold Optic that high just because I really hated that Chamber meta, I think Optic and yay got too lucky that meta was there on that specific point in time
Reminds me of cNed in Jett meta (acend) or Chamber meta (navi)
FNC on the other hand had an incredible year on a much healthier meta
Tameness [#11]saadhak
saadhak
aspas
less
lessTwo saadhaks, two less
this team wins everything
seems fair, can't argue with that
Vengaa [#13]seems fair, can't argue with that
like less and less can play viper + sentinel
saadhaks can flex
and aspas plays duelist
no troll comps bc aspas will play standard duelists
but double the amount of insane tech
Vengaa [#12]yeah I don't hold Optic that high just because I really hated that Chamber meta, I think Optic and yay got too lucky that meta was there on that specific point in time
Reminds me of cNed in Jett meta (acend) or Chamber meta (navi)
FNC on the other hand had an incredible year on a much healthier meta
tbf for me every team had access to chamber so it wasnt like optic had some niche meta pick that always worked, they were the team that utilized yay the best so therefore they were the best in that meta and not down to plain luck
fnc is good but i feel like a lot of their gameplay are slow defaults with very little variation compared to other teams, and although many teams couldnt beat them it was getting to a point where teams with competent coaches and igls would read them, their firepower is insane however
espeon [#15]tbf for me every team had access to chamber so it wasnt like optic had some niche meta pick that always worked, they were the team that utilized yay the best so therefore they were the best in that meta and not down to plain luck
fnc is good but i feel like a lot of their gameplay are slow defaults with very little variation compared to other teams, and although many teams couldnt beat them it was getting to a point where teams with competent coaches and igls would read them, their firepower is insane however
yeah I somewhat agree
I was not trying to take credit off of what Optic and yay did at the time. They clearly were the team that better adapted to it. It's just hard for me to imagine they would've had the same success if they had to adapt to a different meta at that time. That's where the 'lucky' part of my rant comes in. After all, they went to a relative 'irrelevancy' once the meta was gone. They clearly dominated that meta, tho, and the results were insane.
Yeah, indeed, FNC are more readable as time goes on, and that's a thing a lot of old-school EMEA teams suffer constantly (I mean look at the first Masters Reykyavik, they tried to play the game as if it was CSGO lol).
They constantly insist on playing the same slow way that characterize most EMEA teams. Works initially, then it just becomes really stubborn. Fnatic 'potential' is always there tho, in contrast to Optic ie.
They just need to learn to adapt. And I think they can. Their firepower is indeed abusive w the core of leo-alfa-chronicle.
I think it's time for them to end their derke-duelist chapter tho, might be wrong.
great analysis tho
hellfire [#19]Cauan instead of sacy
I get why most people prefer him over Sacy
But other than numbers, I think Sacy bring more things to the table than what cauan does, might be wrong tho
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