Sideshow was right with all his criticisms and now that TenZ has ironed his flaws out more, he looks much much better and is actually playing up to his poterntial. Sideshow didn't deserve that much hate for the video when he was almost 100% correct
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AstroGalaxy [#2]we were also right in that he never made another video about any other pro so bro was doing it for views
most likely he was frustrated seeing TenZ making easily fixable mistakes and made the video, got so much hate that he didn't want to make another one
AstroGalaxy [#2]we were also right in that he never made another video about any other pro so bro was doing it for views
Facts man if he did it to any other pro like Asuna or something this wouldn’t show targeting and hating towards tenz
TheAceGamer30 [#5]Facts man if he did it to any other pro like Asuna or something this wouldn’t show targeting and hating towards tenz
i wont be surprised if i see one on Asuna some time, especially his comms because they are something else but also, imo, Asuna has kind of met his potential already
cohnr [#6]i wont be surprised if i see one on Asuna some time, especially his comms because they are something else but also, imo, Asuna has kind of met his potential already
He is nothing like tenz as well so I don’t know why he’s kept all the time when 100t makes a roster move . If he was dropped right now I guarantee nobody would pick him up in tier1
TheAceGamer30 [#3]He wanted views he got it, I’m sure he wanted sen to lose so bad since tenz was on the team but when he cooked on omen he switched sides lol
bro lmfaooo, its not that deep sideshow criticized tenz for views but that's it he didn't wanna hate the guy or smthng, sideshow is a genuine person and although im against him making that one video it doesnt mean he wanted sen or tenz to fail or anything and regardless of the video tenz still would be the same player he is rn because if a caster knows a player's struggles then im sure the coaching staff does too
cohnr [#6]i wont be surprised if i see one on Asuna some time, especially his comms because they are something else but also, imo, Asuna has kind of met his potential already
He said he won't do one for asuna because he gets enough shit from the community already... As if it wasnt the case for tenz too. Whatever.
this doesnt necessarily prove sideshow was right tho, regardless of the video tenz would still be a great player because a lot of what he criticized didnt take into account the mental state of the players at that point in time, tenz had multiple problems both personally and professionally so cant really blame the guy but u cant hate on sideshow either, he made a genuine video too just that the timing and the after effects of it made it seem like hes some sort of a villain of sorts
noxx [#8]bro lmfaooo, its not that deep sideshow criticized tenz for views but that's it he didn't wanna hate the guy or smthng, sideshow is a genuine person and although im against him making that one video it doesnt mean he wanted sen or tenz to fail or anything and regardless of the video tenz still would be the same player he is rn because if a caster knows a player's struggles then im sure the coaching staff does too
nah man he wanted tenz gone so bad , he only changed his mind once he cooked on omen lol
Eileenleen [#9]He said he won't do one for asuna because he gets enough shit from the community already... As if it wasnt the case for tenz too. Whatever.
Tenz gets more shit than Asuna lmao
Edit: why downvote it’s literally true
noxx [#8]bro lmfaooo, its not that deep sideshow criticized tenz for views but that's it he didn't wanna hate the guy or smthng, sideshow is a genuine person and although im against him making that one video it doesnt mean he wanted sen or tenz to fail or anything and regardless of the video tenz still would be the same player he is rn because if a caster knows a player's struggles then im sure the coaching staff does too
imo I agree with you the video was made because he wanted TenZ to be better and to not fail, literally the opposite
cohnr [#13]imo I agree with you the video was made because he wanted TenZ to be better and to not fail, literally the opposite
The problem I had with the video was he didn’t look at the big picture with tenz like his mental state when playing those games for example
TheAceGamer30 [#12]Tenz gets more shit than Asuna lmao
Edit: why downvote it’s literally true
That's why I think it was a lame excuse.
The thing is its always easier to criticise others while standing at a distance, pointing out flaws. Whats important is to help that person out. Idk why dont people get how hard it is to know your fiance's life is in danger. How much toll it takes. If i would have been in TenZ place i would be crying in a corner, spend 24*7 with her, but he still packed up the courage. Respect to SEN TenZ, my inspiration.
ArtemisZ083 [#17]The thing is its always easier to criticise others while standing at a distance, pointing out flaws. Whats important is to help that person out. Idk why dont people get how hard it is to know your fiance's life is in danger. How much toll it takes. If i would have been in TenZ place i would be crying in a corner, spend 24*7 with her, but he still packed up the courage. Respect to SEN TenZ, my inspiration.
Yeah his mental state was fucked up
noxx [#8]bro lmfaooo, its not that deep sideshow criticized tenz for views but that's it he didn't wanna hate the guy or smthng, sideshow is a genuine person and although im against him making that one video it doesnt mean he wanted sen or tenz to fail or anything and regardless of the video tenz still would be the same player he is rn because if a caster knows a player's struggles then im sure the coaching staff does too
Stop glazing. The guy knew tenz was the most hated and most criticized player and he still chose to dogpile on him based on micro-plays . If you start analyzing players that way when you have the hindsight and full POV on your side you could even make Loud Less look bad, I am not kidding. In this game with how random everything is, everytime you lose a round you can blame a specific player for it. Sideshow did exactly that and he never made a similar video for anyone else.
Correct about what exactly? Judging a player based off of micro plays? What was your takeaway from his 'criticism' video? That he shouldn't make that specific movement on round 26 against LEV or whatever? You think he became a better decision maker all of a sudden cz he watched sideshows video about how to react in 5 random situations? LMAO
TheAceGamer30 [#11]nah man he wanted tenz gone so bad , he only changed his mind once he cooked on omen lol
He hasn't changed his mind. He still hates tenz, you could just see it in his reactions. Even when he praises him it has to be a backhanded complement. I can guarantee that the next game SEN loses sideshow will be back with his chalkboard criticizing tenz play by play with his 20/20 hindsight.
SaltyMcNulty [#23]He hasn't changed his mind. He still hates tenz, you could just see it in his reactions. Even when he praises him it has to be a backhanded complement. I can guarantee that the next game SEN loses sideshow will be back with his chalkboard criticizing tenz play by play with his 20/20 hindsight.
Fr I remember in 2021 he used to be such tenz fanboy how times changed lol
SaltyMcNulty [#22]Correct about what exactly? Judging a player based off of micro plays? What was your takeaway from his 'criticism' video? That he shouldn't make that specific movement on round 26 against LEV or whatever? You think he became a better decision maker all of a sudden cz he watched sideshows video about how to react in 5 random situations? LMAO
TenZ had huge issues with going either all in or not at all and it tended to lose them quite a few rounds but it is something that can be fixed pretty easily with some focus put onto it by his coaches. That was addressed and now he actually has incredible timing especially with flashes. Obviously Sideshow isn't the reason for it being fixed, TenZ probably has never watched the video but it was a good criticism to make and his coaches also noticed it, fixed it and improved it massively.
noxx [#10]this doesnt necessarily prove sideshow was right tho, regardless of the video tenz would still be a great player because a lot of what he criticized didnt take into account the mental state of the players at that point in time, tenz had multiple problems both personally and professionally so cant really blame the guy but u cant hate on sideshow either, he made a genuine video too just that the timing and the after effects of it made it seem like hes some sort of a villain of sorts
He was also playing league on the side.
cohnr [#25]TenZ had huge issues with going either all in or not at all and it tended to lose them quite a few rounds but it is something that can be fixed pretty easily with some focus put onto it by his coaches. That was addressed and now he actually has incredible timing especially with flashes. Obviously Sideshow isn't the reason for it being fixed, TenZ probably has never watched the video but it was a good criticism to make and his coaches also noticed it, fixed it and improved it massively.
You are just waffling blud. What do you mean going all in or not at all. The duelist player doesn't randomly decide I wanna go in or not. You make small plays all over the map to take control of space and choke the opponent off of that space, trade util that puts you in an advantages position to hit a site. It all has to be a coordinated team play, it just can't be him saying I don't wanna go in. If that was the case they would have booted him out already. You are fully ignoring the fact that JohnQT is a better IGL than dephh and marved. Zekken went 6-15 in a match against cloud9, you wanna tell me that was all his fault for making bad decisions and had nothing to do with his team getting outplayed?
TheAceGamer30 [#3]He wanted views he got it, I’m sure he wanted sen to lose so bad since tenz was on the team but when he cooked on omen he switched sides lol
Yea he definitely hates KRU too, or Forsaken, or Karmine corp. Bro is an analyst it's his Fuckin job to yap about these guys. Did he shit on tenz and karmine corp for the views? Yes. Wtf does it matter.
SaltyMcNulty [#20]Stop glazing. The guy knew tenz was the most hated and most criticized player and he still chose to dogpile on him based on micro-plays . If you start analyzing players that way when you have the hindsight and full POV on your side you could even make Loud Less look bad, I am not kidding. In this game with how random everything is, everytime you lose a round you can blame a specific player for it. Sideshow did exactly that and he never made a similar video for anyone else.
this is not glazing, tenz is the sole reason why i got into valorant in the first place. Sideshow wanted to make it into a series but the hate on him and the player exceeded his expectations and he decided to stop and he was just criticizing him, not hating big difference and even if its unfair towards tenz, he is the most popular player and its the easiest way to get views and he did it. sure he could've chosen a better and softer way to land it but it is what it is, stop making it seem like he is this tenzhater1234 or smthng lmfaoo, he did the same thing with forsaken but instead of making a video, he criticized him in a platchat video way back in the day and he prolly didnt make a video because forsaken just wasnt popular enough to be making a 2hr long video on
Twentytwo [#28]Yea he definitely hates KRU too, or Forsaken, or Karmine corp. Bro is an analyst it's his Fuckin job to yap about these guys. Did he shit on tenz and karmine corp for the views? Yes. Wtf does it matter.
this is what im sayin, hes quite literally a professional yapper and its not like he is straight up saying tenz is a pile of dogshit, he just criticized certain plays and in the end it doesnt matter, a good player will always bounce back regardless of whatever the fuck others say about him and tenz just proved he is a good player
cohnr [#6]i wont be surprised if i see one on Asuna some time, especially his comms because they are something else but also, imo, Asuna has kind of met his potential already
fns said all of his comms were right, he is just way too loud and acts like he's fighting ww3 all the time
Sideshow made the video for views and for views only, Tenz played how much of Omen when he made that video, he probably played Yuro once maybe twice in pro matches,
He was always going to improve the more the played different agents in different comps and with a couple of months scrims and matches, it was highly unlikely Tenz wasn't going to improve, they way Sideshow presented the video it was as if Tenz was almost a hopeless case,
Anyone here saying Sideshow was right actually believed there was actually little hope Tenz would improve
deanAM [#32]Sideshow made the video for views and for views only, Tenz played how much of Omen when he made that video, he probably played Yuro once maybe twice in pro matches,
He was always going to improve the more the played different agents in different comps and with a couple of months scrims and matches, it was highly unlikely Tenz wasn't going to improve, they way Sideshow presented the video it was as if Tenz was almost a hopeless case,
Anyone here saying Sideshow was right actually believed there was actually little hope Tenz would improve
Go watch the video again because you have no idea wtf you talking about.
so many tenz/sen dickriders here, get the fuck over it! he made a video criticizing someone you support. it's not personal. if you actually consumed Josh's content, you'd understand - he doesn't give a fuck about WHO he is talking about, he cares about what he is talking about. this narrative of 'oh he did it for views' - you clearly have no idea who you're talking about.
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