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100T is winning Berlin

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TrickVAL

100T has an insane amount of high-level experience at LAN, and not just showing up but 4/5 of them have been on championship contesting teams at an international level in CS, they have choked, came back, and overall have the experience advantage over the rest of the competition. But here is the reason why I think they will make it there. Historically, 100T has lost very close series against the best teams in NA including SEN and faze / envy in their prime, go look yourself. This being said I think things have been waiting to click for 100T and in this qualifier if they get going and things start to click for them they will find there form and be a title contesting team.

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vikward
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they gonna lose to faze round 1

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PawanSapkota
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they gotta make Berlin first....

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Asphyxia
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I'm not sure if this is bait or not. If it's bait then. It's a good bait bc I couldn't even tell.

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TrickVAL
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PawanSapkota [#3]

they gotta make Berlin first....

agreed I think it will be hard but they have a good chance, alot of NA's super teams aren't performing at the same level they were before, SEN has shown a bit of weakness (barely but better than none lol" and envy has a new 5th who is insane but they will have no time to build protocol and chem which makes them weaker in crunch time imo. and V1 didn't even qual but I agree they need to get going here first

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I couldn't tell if this was a copy pasta just from reading it.

Some fair points I guess?

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TrickVAL
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Asphyxia [#4]

I'm not sure if this is bait or not. If it's bait then. It's a good bait bc I couldn't even tell.

no its serious I think 100T has the potential to be one of the most dynamic teams in the game they have insane mid rounding they just need to find there feet in the meta and they will be chiling

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TrickVAL [#5]

agreed I think it will be hard but they have a good chance, alot of NA's super teams aren't performing at the same level they were before, SEN has shown a bit of weakness (barely but better than none lol" and envy has a new 5th who is insane but they will have no time to build protocol and chem which makes them weaker in crunch time imo. and V1 didn't even qual but I agree they need to get going here first

Oh it's not bait. It said winning Berlin. So I thought it was a bait. I think 100T can def qualify and have a good showing. But they prob aren't winning.

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TrickVAL
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Zaynio [#6]

I couldn't tell if this was a copy pasta just from reading it.

Some fair points I guess?

nah its fr, go look how they have lost in the past they always lost to NA super power teams like SEN / Faze in there prime, and envy in there prime

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TrickVAL [#7]

no its serious I think 100T has the potential to be one of the most dynamic teams in the game they have insane mid rounding they just need to find there feet in the meta and they will be chiling

They can never find their feet in the meta. That's the problem. And I personally think teams like Acend and G2 just can diff 100t on skill alone.

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TrickVAL
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Asphyxia [#8]

Oh it's not bait. It said winning Berlin. So I thought it was a bait. I think 100T can def qualify and have a good showing. But they prob aren't winning.

being honest if they make berlin I would bet money they win or only lose to SEN

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kindereggmodel
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i think you and jonathan "elige" jablonowski would get along.

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TrickVAL
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kindereggmodel [#12]

i think you and jonathan "elige" jablonowski would get along.

that boy elige cold

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Zaynio
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TrickVAL [#9]

nah its fr, go look how they have lost in the past they always lost to NA super power teams like SEN / Faze in there prime, and envy in there prime

100t have a problem with not only adjusting to the meta (much like TSM and Faze during various points), but a heavy reliance on Asuna (for frags) and steel (for holding down a site). They have one of the most mechanically gifted players in the region but they always "choke" when the time is important.

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TrickVAL [#13]

that boy elige cold

are you cold?

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TrickVAL
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Asphyxia [#10]

They can never find their feet in the meta. That's the problem. And I personally think teams like Acend and G2 just can diff 100t on skill alone.

ya I have barely seen any EU gameplay aside from recent matches and it was hard to tell how good they were we will see hopefully, I think EU has much better players but are playing a meta that is far behind NA

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farewellVAL
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Is this a copypasta troll? Didn't you get hard ratioed by ELiGE or was that someone else

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TrickVAL
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kindereggmodel [#15]

are you cold?

my raze is freezing

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TrickVAL [#11]

being honest if they make berlin I would bet money they win or only lose to SEN

Really. That's a hot take. I'd prob not bet anything but I think Acend are probably winning the whole thing. I would want to see SMB or FPX win it all lmao. But it's prob not happening.

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kindereggmodel
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TrickVAL [#18]

my raze is freezing

im sure elige could help you take your raze to the next level

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TrickVAL
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farewellVAL [#17]

Is this a copypasta troll? Didn't you get hard ratioed by ELiGE or was that someone else

you just said ratio unironically the only thing trolling is ur parents raising you bro

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TrickVAL
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kindereggmodel [#20]

im sure elige could help you take your raze to the next level

twitter agrees with this in fact if elige is talking u should take ur notepad out and bow your head

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farewellVAL
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TrickVAL [#21]

you just said ratio unironically the only thing trolling is ur parents raising you bro

Imagine being verified on here and trying to shit talk a teenager like you don't have better things to do lmao

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var1ance
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#100TWIN

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TrickVAL [#16]

ya I have barely seen any EU gameplay aside from recent matches and it was hard to tell how good they were we will see hopefully, I think EU has much better players but are playing a meta that is far behind NA

I honestly feel like the tier 2 scene of NA seems the most developed in the Meta. Because they just are innovating and trying so many interesting ideas. Initiators are king in this patch. I feel like we'll probably see many more of them. And in EU they have already seemed to develop a ton of skye. But they're Kay/o honestly looks kinda shiot.

I feel like 100T won't be able to sink their feet into this meta either because. They really only have Hiko who usually plays initiator. So it might be harder to transfer into this meta than even the past ones. And it kinda has been shown that 100T aren't that good at adapting in the first place. I find it hard to believe that 100T will do well this time. Well they'll prob do well. But to the level of winning Berlin is def something I would consider surprising.

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plas
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farewellVAL [#23]

Imagine being verified on here and trying to shit talk a teenager like you don't have better things to do lmao

imagine thinking he genuinely cares about ur replies

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hacklesacka
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trick you always have shit takes

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hacklesacka [#27]

trick you always have shit takes

who u got winning

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TrickVAL [#28]

who u got winning

sentinels or acend the boring but most likely outcomes

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hacklesacka [#29]

sentinels or acend the boring but most likely outcomes

acend that good? when I watched them I only got to see a few games but there bind looked interesting will def be cool to see them at berlin

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TrickVAL [#30]

acend that good? when I watched them I only got to see a few games but there bind looked interesting will def be cool to see them at berlin

ya they basically crushed every other eu team on the qual to emea playoffs

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i cant tell if this is serious

#33
drabr420
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my man has not taken a w in this thread yet

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TrickVAL
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swaglord69 [#32]

i cant tell if this is serious

BRO WYM

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EdmondN1
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His semi-pro fame got to his head.

I have a serious question, even on Twitter, you're so full of yourself, kiddo, even here in the comments... How you manage to be the greatest fool ever?

Oh, wait, my serious question, in fact, is the following: How do you feel winning Tier 2.5/3 matches, but mostly against female teams?

If you're trying so hard to be cool or if you play some matches in a tourney, does that make you more insightful about everything or you have to learn a little bit more?

You literally said that you barely watched EU or other region matches, but how come you know that EU and the rest of the regions are far behind the meta? That's narrow minded take without a solid argument, kiddo.

A small example, kiddo. EU / KR have used Skye and Viper way before it became "the meta", and they use it way better than NA, then you come with a take like that.

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MontyPython75
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Ye we taking the dubs

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Stratum7
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Acend > 100T lmao they dont even need SEN to get defeated

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TrickVAL
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EdmondN1 [#35]

His semi-pro fame got to his head.

I have a serious question, even on Twitter, you're so full of yourself, kiddo, even here in the comments... How you manage to be the greatest fool ever?

Oh, wait, my serious question, in fact, is the following: How do you feel winning Tier 2.5/3 matches, but mostly against female teams?

If you're trying so hard to be cool or if you play some matches in a tourney, does that make you more insightful about everything or you have to learn a little bit more?

You literally said that you barely watched EU or other region matches, but how come you know that EU and the rest of the regions are far behind the meta? That's narrow minded take without a solid argument, kiddo.

A small example, kiddo. EU / KR have used Skye and Viper way before it became "the meta", and they use it way better than NA, then you come with a take like that.

I don't have any "Fame" and I have 1 played a single female team that I can even remember. Also when Is aid I don't watch EU I meant this recent qual, I watched EU for months but since I joined this team I didnt have time. And yes, I believe NA will hard counter these over extended and spread out defaults EU try to pull off. go watch V1 vs TL at iceland, TL over extended multiple rounds assuming V1 would not contest the default in the mid round

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TrickVAL
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Stratum7 [#37]

Acend > 100T lmao they dont even need SEN to get defeated

eu loses berlin

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EdmondN1
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TrickVAL [#38]

I don't have any "Fame" and I have 1 played a single female team that I can even remember. Also when Is aid I don't watch EU I meant this recent qual, I watched EU for months but since I joined this team I didnt have time. And yes, I believe NA will hard counter these over extended and spread out defaults EU try to pull off. go watch V1 vs TL at iceland, TL over extended multiple rounds assuming V1 would not contest the default in the mid round

You're giving the worst example ever. Anyone knew that Liquid didn't deserve to qualify (but I do not want to take away / shame their run), they were lacking in many things, especially playing like a pug team, without an IGL.

I was talking about the meta (agent-wise), which you implied that NA is far ahead, and you come with a response on a completely different matter? Like defaulting? In the above message what I said was strictly about the the agents used, not about defaulting and other strategies.

EDIT: I was talking strictly about agents.

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Trick isn't wrong tbh, I mean, its very likely they qualify for Berlin, and he does bring up a fair point when it comes to the fact that 100T has alot more LAN expierence than everyone else

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EdmondN1 [#40]

You're giving the worst example ever. Anyone knew that Liquid didn't deserve to qualify (but I do not want to take away / shame their run), they were lacking in many things, especially playing like a pug team, without an IGL.

I was talking about the meta (agent-wise), which you implied that NA is far ahead, and you come with a response on a completely different matter? Like defaulting? In the above message what I said was strictly about the the agents used, not about defaulting and other strategies.

EDIT: I was talking strictly about agents.

meta still involves tactics, but an obvious example is brim on bind, his ult is great his stim beacon is terrible and his molly will almost never win or lose you a round in post plant half the time it is used to delay the retake, which if you justify brim for that reason astra and omen are both much better at that and are universal, brim can delay but cannot punish, when you have astra / omen setups it allows you to punish those people you are also delaying for ex. long B or showers, if T side over extends you can omen flash swing or showers crunch with an omen flash, these arent options with brim, skye can flash but it is not as good as omen in those alleyways. almost every game I have seen they have won rounds with viper but never with brim so it would make more sense to run astra / omen like all of NA does for they can have more options on the CT side

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Mdkns
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Bro you have no idea what you are talking about. Delete accounts also go play fortnite.

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TrickVAL
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Mdkns [#43]

Bro you have no idea what you are talking about. Delete accounts also go play fortnite.

nice.

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FlamephoenixYz
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vikward [#2]

they gonna lose to faze round 1

they 13-5'd V1 on Haven and V1 13-4'd Liquid so its safe to assume that 100T would dumpster 13-0 Lulquid

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It's not a bad take like most people seem to think, 100T have the skill to win but they're not very consistent so unless they can pick up some momentum and adjust to the meta more I think they can do it. I'm not sure if fans will be allowed at the LAN but 100T, assuming they make it, could play better on LAN. They wouldn't be my pick to win but I don't see why people are so against this take.

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Trick Val I disagree only because I think envy and xset are better

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TrickVAL [#42]

meta still involves tactics, but an obvious example is brim on bind, his ult is great his stim beacon is terrible and his molly will almost never win or lose you a round in post plant half the time it is used to delay the retake, which if you justify brim for that reason astra and omen are both much better at that and are universal, brim can delay but cannot punish, when you have astra / omen setups it allows you to punish those people you are also delaying for ex. long B or showers, if T side over extends you can omen flash swing or showers crunch with an omen flash, these arent options with brim, skye can flash but it is not as good as omen in those alleyways. almost every game I have seen they have won rounds with viper but never with brim so it would make more sense to run astra / omen like all of NA does for they can have more options on the CT side

I know what the word "meta" means, but I didn't wanted to go deeper, because it'll be a more complex subject to talk about.

People go around talking about this or that meta, but in reality there's not a definitive one other than playing the game as smart as possible. Why? Because the game is constantly evolving. Yes, there are certain "buy metas" on eco rounds, or how some agent utilities are used on specific rounds, etc. But you just really have to asses each and every round as it comes and adapt accordingly.

Regarding what you said about Brim, I strongly disagree, but that doesn't mean that my argument or yours are better, true or false. Both agents can be equally S-tier, it just depends on the person who plays it. If a team is weaker than the other, or a player is more skillful on Sage than the enemy Jett... It doesn't matter which team have the stronger agents, if their players are weak/ aren't experienced. The outcome will be as clear as the day.

In my opinion, Brimstone is way stronger than both Astra or Omen on Bind. His molly and ultimate are literally S tier, and his smokes are more than good enough. Brim Stim Beacon may be useless, but his other abilities have high impact on Bind. Omen flash may get you a kill, but usually it doesn't. It is really hard to use it properly on the attacker(s) side. It may delay the opponents, but it won't last longer than the Brim's molly, which lasts around 8 seconds. Omen smokes are literally weaker. Astra is good, also. But Brimstone is much more a teamplayer, while Omen is good for some little selfish plays which may or not win you something. Regarding Astra, it takes much more time, sitting in astral form, to place stars here and there.

And what I was on about the meta, regarding the agents, NA started to play Viper/ Skye and other agents forcefully, just because "it's the meta", right? Then the chance to play against someone who wanted to really play it are slim.

Europe can be way stronger than you can imagine.

As for me, it doesn't matter who wins Berlin, I just want to watch some good matches.

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TrickVAL
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cloud9bluefan [#47]

Trick Val I disagree only because I think envy and xset are better

ya i wanna see more form xset only seen 1 tourney with this roste

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Agree, they've got skill. Not the best but I believe top 3.
I feel, their chance to win chalangger playoffs is 30-50%. But to win Berlin their chance is only 10-20%.
LAN exp gives advantage, but I think what they lack is the experience to face other region teams.
IMO SEN playstyle can win over EU. But I can't see the same with 100T playstyle, I think much EU team can counter 100T playstyle.

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vikward [#2]

they gonna lose to faze round 1

L take

#52
TrickVAL
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vikward [#2]

they gonna lose to faze round 1

this aged well :)

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TrickVAL [#52]

this aged well :)

WWWWWWWWWW

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TrickVAL
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farewellVAL [#17]

Is this a copypasta troll? Didn't you get hard ratioed by ELiGE or was that someone else

ratio

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TrickVAL
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drabr420 [#33]

my man has not taken a w in this thread yet

L

#56
TrickVAL
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So here we are.

#57
TrickVAL
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Stratum7 [#37]

Acend > 100T lmao they dont even need SEN to get defeated

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

#58
TrickVAL
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Stratum7 [#37]

Acend > 100T lmao they dont even need SEN to get defeated

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

#59
kyotosan
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WHERE'S THE SHIT TALK NOW FUCKING PUSSIES

#60
TrickVAL
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kyotosan [#59]

WHERE'S THE SHIT TALK NOW FUCKING PUSSIES

THEY ARE SILENT

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kyotosan
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.

#62
Fire737
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Where’s the shit talk?

#63
TrickVAL
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Fire737 [#62]

Where’s the shit talk?

they silent now LOOOOOOOOOOOL

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ItsShadowXD
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Mdkns [#43]

Bro you have no idea what you are talking about. Delete accounts also go play fortnite.

You there???

#65
killedByUnknown
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MAN they deserve it after the come back on gambit match and acend well the deserve it .Sadge Sen trollS group stage for better seed

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TrickVAL
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killedByUnknown [#65]

MAN they deserve it after the come back on gambit match and acend well the deserve it .Sadge Sen trollS group stage for better seed

ya sen def threw the bag

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TrickVAL
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hacklesacka [#31]

ya they basically crushed every other eu team on the qual to emea playoffs

wow my takes r so bad sadge

#68
MontyPython75
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HOPIUM

#69
Fire737
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TrickVAL [#63]

they silent now LOOOOOOOOOOOL

PogU

#70
peppreish
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LMFAO THE 100T HATERS QUIET NOW

#71
Vegito
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killedByUnknown [#65]

MAN they deserve it after the come back on gambit match and acend well the deserve it .Sadge Sen trollS group stage for better seed

exactly, no way sen doesnt ban icebox everytime even though they know that it is their weakest map bruh

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TrickVAL
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Zaynio [#14]

100t have a problem with not only adjusting to the meta (much like TSM and Faze during various points), but a heavy reliance on Asuna (for frags) and steel (for holding down a site). They have one of the most mechanically gifted players in the region but they always "choke" when the time is important.

THEY DIDNT CHOKE BABY

#73
TrickVAL
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peppreish [#70]

LMFAO THE 100T HATERS QUIET NOW

LMFAO

#74
Sief
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Asphyxia [#10]

They can never find their feet in the meta. That's the problem. And I personally think teams like Acend and G2 just can diff 100t on skill alone.

asphyxia quiet

#75
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TrickVAL [#72]

THEY DIDNT CHOKE BABY

LAN BUFF IS REAL

#76
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Sief [#74]

asphyxia quiet

no. I stand by my decision. I don't believe that 100T will win Berlin.

#77
var1ance
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SO FREE FOR 100T

#78
var1ance
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TrickVAL [#67]

wow my takes r so bad sadge

yeah trick ur takes are really bad KEKW

#79
Woofysayswoof
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vikward [#2]

they gonna lose to faze round 1

unlucky really

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greedisntgood
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FlamephoenixYz [#45]

they 13-5'd V1 on Haven and V1 13-4'd Liquid so its safe to assume that 100T would dumpster 13-0 Lulquid

N OMEGALUL

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