1-Acend
2/3-G2/LIQUID
4-Gambit
5-Guild
6-SMB
7-Giants
8-FPX
9/10-OXG/NaVi
11-Fireflux
12-ForZe
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thanatos11 [#2]Is this how you think the tournament will go?
No, its a powerranking, the bracket probably makes this impossible
FireII [#3]what is liquid doing so high?
mine:
- Acend
- G2
- FPX
- Guild
- SMB
- Gambit
- Liquid
- VGIA
- OXG
- Na'Vi
- FireFlux
- ForZe
FireII [#5]mine:
- Acend
- G2
- FPX
- Guild
- SMB
- Gambit
- Liquid
- VGIA
- OXG
- Na'Vi
- FireFlux
- ForZe
And liquid where?
FireII [#3]what is liquid doing so high?
I kinda feel like they f'ed up the first challenger and made many basic mistakes, now they look far better and they seem like they can run multiple comps to surprise enemies
PrTsty [#8]I kinda feel like they f'ed up the first challenger and made many basic mistakes, now they look far better and they seem like they can run multiple comps to surprise enemies
Also stopped shit fucking Kay/o comps
Traderslife [#6]Will comeback after Ascend vs Liquid
I think liquid wins the first match against Acend but acend takes the whole thing
FireII [#3]what is liquid doing so high?
the thing with liquid is they either play good or they play really bad, no in-between
FireII [#12]shoot forgot they would go between gambit and vgia
doubt they go that low, they look much better compared to challengers 1 rn
23_MARK_23 [#14]Gambit seem too high up but i completely agree with the top 3 and bottom 9
Ye maybe down to 7, but its hard to say since gambit had no real competition and SMB is very new
PrTsty [#15]Ye maybe down to 7, but its hard to say since gambit had no real competition and SMB is very new
yeah i agree 100%
PrTsty [#8]I kinda feel like they f'ed up the first challenger and made many basic mistakes, now they look far better and they seem like they can run multiple comps to surprise enemies
I hope they keep the double duelist comp
23_MARK_23 [#16]yeah i agree 100%
this is my ranking (i have not really watched much of CIS and TR tournaments so i dont really know that much about those regions)
- Acend
2/3. G2/Team Liquid - Giants
- SMB
- Guild
7/8. FPX/Gambit
9/10. Oxygen/NaVi
11.FFE
12.ForZe
23_MARK_23 [#18]this is my ranking (i have not really watched much of CIS and TR tournaments so i dont really know that much about those regions)
- Acend
2/3. G2/Team Liquid- Giants
- SMB
- Guild
7/8. FPX/Gambit
9/10. Oxygen/NaVi
11.FFE
12.ForZe
wait why is it so fucked lol, (still the same orders)
23_MARK_23 [#18]this is my ranking (i have not really watched much of CIS and TR tournaments so i dont really know that much about those regions)
- Acend
2/3. G2/Team Liquid- Giants
- SMB
- Guild
7/8. FPX/Gambit
9/10. Oxygen/NaVi
11.FFE
12.ForZe
Ur numbers are kinda messed up lol
PrTsty [#20]Ur numbers are kinda messed up lol
yeah its from the website idk why, orders are still the same
FireII [#5]mine:
- Acend
- G2
- FPX
- Guild
- SMB
- Gambit
- Liquid
- VGIA
- OXG
- Na'Vi
- FireFlux
- ForZe
Good list.. I'd switch G2 and FPX but that's just personal preference
esdesufck [#22]
- Acend
- G2
- Gambit
- FPX
- Liquid
- NaVi
- Giants
- Guild
- forZe
- SMB
- Oxygen
- FFE
Nice CIS fan be reality
starscream [#29]1-Acend
2-SMB
3-Gambit
4-TL
5-Oxygen
6-FPX
7-FF
8-Guild
9-ForZe
10-G2
11-Giants
12-NaVi
nah sorry but this is the worst power ranking i have seen yet
starscream [#29]1-Acend
2-SMB
3-Gambit
4-TL
5-Oxygen
6-FPX
7-FF
8-Guild
9-ForZe
10-G2
11-Giants
12-NaVi
Wtf!!?
Never_Wrong [#27]I want to see G2 succeed like no one else, but if you're setting expectations so high then don't go and hate them if they don't fulfill your expectations :,)
Also, imo Gambit way lower
I wont hate anyone for not matching expectations expect if a team is cocky about it.
Nonedit [#32]1-Acend
2-FPX
3-G2
4-Gambit
5-SMB
6-TL
7-OXG
8-Guild
9-Giants
10-FF
11-NaVi
12-ForZe
I can see an argument for all this placements but fpx second?
starscream [#35]why?
SMB seem good but not top2 IMO top 5 EU, Gambit seem very overrated, Oxygen and FF aint that good, Forze is last by a mile, G2 and Giants are way better IMO
cripsy [#24]Nice CIS fan be reality
Gambit will dominate the tournament(After Acend). Cry more Oxygen fan
PrTsty [#36]I can see an argument for all this placements but fpx second?
you are right swap them with g2 then
2- G2
3- FPX
23_MARK_23 [#37]SMB seem good but not top2 IMO top 5 EU, Gambit seem very overrated, Oxygen and FF aint that good, Forze is last by a mile, G2 and Giants are way better IMO
G2 most overrated shit I've everseen, In praccs, they are beaten by most Turkish teams by far.
Giants's success point is just being a new team. They did smth in EU region in first matchs, because nobody was know their gameplay but they can not do same shit again EMEA.
I like ForZe game style but I don't think they will be successful against other teams. They are good than G2, Giants but not ever than FPX, FF or Guild.
Oxygen already beaten Guild and FF also I think they can beat FPX too and miles way better than lower tier teams.
FF is new team and they have a good gunpower, It's hard to say smth for sure, but they have a high chance of success.
SMB and Gambit Tier A teams of this bracket, sorry but no cap. After than Acend, they will beat others.
starscream [#41]G2 most overrated shit I've everseen, In praccs, they are beaten by most Turkish teams by far.
Giants's success point is just being a new team. They did smth in EU region in first matchs, because nobody was know their gameplay but they can not do same shit again EMEA.
I like ForZe game style but I don't think they will be successful against other teams. They are good than G2, Giants but not ever than FPX, FF or Guild.
Oxygen already beaten Guild and FF also I think they can beat FPX too and miles way better than lower tier teams.
FF is new team and they have a good gunpower, It's hard to say smth for sure, but they have a high chance of success.
SMB and Gambit Tier A teams of this bracket, sorry but no cap. After than Acend, they will beat others.
Praccs dont mean shit, i see the Giants argument but i still think they have he core mechanics down so good that it will be hard for any team to beat them,
im sorry but it seems like ForZe is not better than G2 and not better than Giants.
Sure Oxygen beat Guild but they lost vs Fnatic and lost BAAD against Liquid
yeah FF is new but it seems like they will not make it far
i agree that SMB might be A tier but gambit is overrated
starscream [#41]G2 most overrated shit I've everseen, In praccs, they are beaten by most Turkish teams by far.
Giants's success point is just being a new team. They did smth in EU region in first matchs, because nobody was know their gameplay but they can not do same shit again EMEA.
I like ForZe game style but I don't think they will be successful against other teams. They are good than G2, Giants but not ever than FPX, FF or Guild.
Oxygen already beaten Guild and FF also I think they can beat FPX too and miles way better than lower tier teams.
FF is new team and they have a good gunpower, It's hard to say smth for sure, but they have a high chance of success.
SMB and Gambit Tier A teams of this bracket, sorry but no cap. After than Acend, they will beat others.
nvm yours is not the worst i have seen anymore, there are some waay worse down in this thread
Ayes0 [#43]1-SMB
2-FF
3-OXG
4-ACEND
5-GAMBİT
6-G2
7-FPX
8-LIQUID
9-FORZE
10-NAVI
11-VGIA
12-GUILD
i want to see the explanations for this list
Ayes0 [#43]1-SMB
2-FF
3-OXG
4-ACEND
5-GAMBİT
6-G2
7-FPX
8-LIQUID
9-FORZE
10-NAVI
11-VGIA
12-GUILD
The Fact lol
thanatos11 [#13]doubt they go that low, they look much better compared to challengers 1 rn
no shit cuz they are facing much worse teams in chall 2
Ayes0 [#43]1-SMB
2-FF
3-OXG
4-ACEND
5-GAMBİT
6-G2
7-FPX
8-LIQUID
9-FORZE
10-NAVI
11-VGIA
12-GUILD
smh pandering to get turkish upfrags
sins [#52]no shit cuz they are facing much worse teams in chall 2
they looked better playing fnatic this time too though?
starscream [#29]1-Acend
2-SMB
3-Gambit
4-TL
5-Oxygen
6-FPX
7-FF
8-Guild
9-ForZe
10-G2
11-Giants
12-NaVi
this ranking just terrible
- Acend (Of Course)
- G2 (Look really good atm)
- Guild (Hot take but Guild are really consistent so imma put them here, also they have the -draken +draken buff)
- Gambit (have the best chance out of CIS and Turkish teams to qualify)
- FPX (Really close but i personally put Gambit over FPX)
- SMB (Basically a turkish superteam, I also think russ is a god when he's playing well and the whole team itself is pretty stacked.
- Liquid (Scream will forget about the Fnatic breeze where he basically missed like 5 shots and lost them rounds and go Juan Tap, Jamppi is so far looking like a pretty good IGL, and Soulcas is prob the best Skye in the world, but i feel everyone else rn is better.)
- Giants (Also looking really nice, Davidp was a really good pickup, but once again i feel eveyone is better who is above rn)
- NaVi (I mean their Ok but still need to put in some work.)
- OXG (Looking Fine rn but other teams I feel are better)
- FF (Socialbee demon, but other teams are better)
- Forze (A little lacking)
Edit: Grouped Forze and FF
Edit 2: Sry Turky fans I forgot Socialbee is on FF, yea they are a better then Forze
starscream [#41]G2 most overrated shit I've everseen, In praccs, they are beaten by most Turkish teams by far.
Giants's success point is just being a new team. They did smth in EU region in first matchs, because nobody was know their gameplay but they can not do same shit again EMEA.
I like ForZe game style but I don't think they will be successful against other teams. They are good than G2, Giants but not ever than FPX, FF or Guild.
Oxygen already beaten Guild and FF also I think they can beat FPX too and miles way better than lower tier teams.
FF is new team and they have a good gunpower, It's hard to say smth for sure, but they have a high chance of success.
SMB and Gambit Tier A teams of this bracket, sorry but no cap. After than Acend, they will beat others.
So delusional. BTW no Turkish team has ever won against G2, not even cNed's BBL. They also have won ForZe plenty of times although they're different rosters.
At the end of the day you're comparing TR/CIS to a more competitive region
starscream [#41]G2 most overrated shit I've everseen, In praccs, they are beaten by most Turkish teams by far.
Giants's success point is just being a new team. They did smth in EU region in first matchs, because nobody was know their gameplay but they can not do same shit again EMEA.
I like ForZe game style but I don't think they will be successful against other teams. They are good than G2, Giants but not ever than FPX, FF or Guild.
Oxygen already beaten Guild and FF also I think they can beat FPX too and miles way better than lower tier teams.
FF is new team and they have a good gunpower, It's hard to say smth for sure, but they have a high chance of success.
SMB and Gambit Tier A teams of this bracket, sorry but no cap. After than Acend, they will beat others.
Pracs are worthless, ABX destroys 100T and NV and look what happens.
Guild is Cracked idk what u are talking about
Just because a team beat u once does not mean they'll beat u again.
Never_Wrong [#57]So delusional. BTW no Turkish team has ever won against G2, not even cNed's BBL. They also have won ForZe plenty of times although they're different rosters.
At the end of the day you're comparing TR/CIS to a more competitive region
say same shit after they lost 2 - 0 and were eliminated in first pairings.
starscream [#60]say same shit after they lost 2 - 0 and were eliminated in first pairings.
Everything can happen but G2 is objectively better by far. I don't know if you're writing this seriously but that's some childish logic nobody on this site is taking seriously
I mean put them in a "reasonable" position, but 10th? Now that's personal. You do you:>
PersonHere [#56]
- Acend (Of Course)
- G2 (Look really good atm)
- Guild (Hot take but Guild are really consistent so imma put them here, also they have the -draken +draken buff)
- Gambit (have the best chance out of CIS and Turkish teams to qualify)
- FPX (Really close but i personally put Gambit over FPX)
- SMB (Basically a turkish superteam, I also think russ is a god when he's playing well and the whole team itself is pretty stacked.
- Liquid (Scream will forget about the Fnatic breeze where he basically missed like 5 shots and lost them rounds and go Juan Tap, Jamppi is so far looking like a pretty good IGL, and Soulcas is prob the best Skye in the world, but i feel everyone else rn is better.)
- Giants (Also looking really nice, Davidp was a really good pickup, but once again i feel eveyone is better who is above rn)
- NaVi (I mean their Ok but still need to put in some work.)
- OXG (Looking Fine rn but other teams I feel are better)
- FF (Socialbee demon, but other teams are better)
- Forze (A little lacking)
Edit: Grouped Forze and FF
Edit 2: Sry Turky fans I forgot Socialbee is on FF, yea they are a better then Forze
“Dont watch enough Turkey so this one is based of reading other people's stuff.”
You know those other people also dont watch enough TR right? Im not saying they will be in Berlin but saying SMB 6 and FF 12 is like idk come on FF was pretty close to eliminate SMB, at least put them above forze or something
Ayes0 [#43]1-SMB
2-FF
3-OXG
4-ACEND
5-GAMBİT
6-G2
7-FPX
8-LIQUID
9-FORZE
10-NAVI
11-VGIA
12-GUILD
FF 2nd¿¿????
Scottyboi30 [#68]
- Acend
- G2
- Gambit
- SMB
- FPX
- liquid
- NaVi
- Giants
9.Guild- Oxygen
- Fire F
- ForZe
i think you forgot liquid lol
Scottyboi30 [#68]
- Acend
- G2
- Gambit
- SMB
- FPX
- liquid
- NaVi
- Giants
9.Guild- Oxygen
- Fire F
- ForZe
Why are scrimbux so high?
23_MARK_23 [#18]this is my ranking (i have not really watched much of CIS and TR tournaments so i dont really know that much about those regions)
- Acend
2/3. G2/Team Liquid- Giants
- SMB
- Guild
7/8. FPX/Gambit
9/10. Oxygen/NaVi
11.FFE
12.ForZe
I feel like ur overrating Giants and NaVi a little.
Ayes0 [#43]1-SMB
2-FF
3-OXG
4-ACEND
5-GAMBİT
6-G2
7-FPX
8-LIQUID
9-FORZE
10-NAVI
11-VGIA
12-GUILD
OXG BEHIND FF KEKEKWKEKWKEKWKEKWEKW.
Asphyxia [#72]I feel like ur overrating Giants and NaVi a little.
probably, the thing is that Giants are not proven against all of the big teams yet so its hard to say where they are, just placing from the last few matches, and i dunno how navi plays
23_MARK_23 [#75]probably, the thing is that Giants are not proven against all of the big teams yet so its hard to say where they are, just placing from the last few matches, and i dunno how navi plays
Idk NaVi does have the upset factor but FF does look slightly better in my eyes. Let's see though.
At least U have SMB over forZe. So many people have forZe eliminating SMB for some reason and it actually pisses me off.
Stratum7 [#64]“Dont watch enough Turkey so this one is based of reading other people's stuff.”
You know those other people also dont watch enough TR right? Im not saying they will be in Berlin but saying SMB 6 and FF 12 is like idk come on FF was pretty close to eliminate SMB, at least put them above forze or something
Yea sry I didn't know where to put FF or Forze but since the majority of people put them at 12th I just put them there. Really the 2 are interchangeable based on what everyone is saying but I only watched a few SMB games and like 2 OXG games so my Turkey list might be a little off
PlainTextToCipherText [#79]Liquid will beat acend
Liquid will takr the whole thing, as soon as its Bo5 lIquid wins
Asphyxia [#76]Idk NaVi does have the upset factor but FF does look slightly better in my eyes. Let's see though.
At least U have SMB over forZe. So many people have forZe eliminating SMB for some reason and it actually pisses me off.
yeah ForZe seems like the worst team by far
23_MARK_23 [#82]yeah ForZe seems like the worst team by far
Yea sadge. CIS looks so underdeveloped except for Gambit and even NaVi only has the upset factor. They are still not that good.
redlight [#83]ACEND
G2
Guild
Liquid
FPX
Gambit
Giants
SMB
NaVi
FoRzE
Oxygen
Fire Fluxprobably a bad take
Not bad, pretty realistic as to what could happen in the tournament. I have your top 4 -guild +fpx making berlin
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