We all know he's probably top 3 of best players world today.
But isn't too soon to call him the GOAT yet?
Well, it's nice some people are actually already considering the Idea.
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its definitely too soon, he is still in saadhak's shadow
(most people won't remember but saadhak should've beaten gambit in 2021 if they didn't choke when he was on team vikings and the team was him, sacy, and friends
edit: you donkeys they were up 12-5 on map 3 saying they should've won is a rational statement
Psion [#5]its definitely too soon, he is still in saadhak's shadow
(most people won't remember but saadhak should've beaten gambit in 2021 if they didn't choke when he was on team vikings and the team was him, sacy, and friends
edit: you donkeys they were up 12-5 on map 3 saying they should've won is a rational statement
"Should have" is crazy, gambit were better and they literally got grouped after losing to TS 0-2 which is not really a great team, so idk what you're trying to say with this
Jeffo [#6]He's not top 3 rn, he's 1st and it's not close.
Goat is a different story, if he wins something this year sure he is.
any team starting would rather get saadhak than him
Psion [#5]its definitely too soon, he is still in saadhak's shadow
(most people won't remember but saadhak should've beaten gambit in 2021 if they didn't choke when he was on team vikings and the team was him, sacy, and friends
edit: you donkeys they were up 12-5 on map 3 saying they should've won is a rational statement
That game was the key turning moment for Sacy and Saadhak, the game where they finally reached a point where they understood How the game actually worked.
How It should be played, and they got it right, because after that game they disbanded and created Loud.
Jeffo [#6]He's not top 3 rn, he's 1st and it's not close.
Goat is a different story, if he wins something this year sure he is.
yeah the annoying part is that if he doesnt win shit we all know its not his fault because he will still be 1.40+ rating every game while his team does weird shit
Psion [#8]any team starting would rather get saadhak than him
Because he's an IGL, you need an igl first when you want to make a team
Jeffo [#7]"Should have" is crazy, gambit were better and they literally got grouped after losing to TS 0-2 which is not really a great team, so idk what you're trying to say with this
dude, they were up TWELVE FIVE ON MAP 3
Gutssz [#11]if you want to call someone "GOAT" just say it to Chronicle
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Jeffo [#13]Because he's an IGL, you need an igl first when you want to make a team
current NRG are the antithesis to this, one of the best teams itw with no dedicated igl (ethan is picking up most of the duties but he never previously igld, they didn't look for an main igl)
anyth1ng [#12]yeah the annoying part is that if he doesnt win shit we all know its not his fault because he will still be 1.40+ rating every game while his team does weird shit
Well, he will still be the best in the world, winning just makes you the goat which is a different story.
In any game you can't be the goat without trophies even if you drop 1.9 on average
Psion [#17]current NRG are the antithesis to this, one of the best teams itw with no dedicated igl (ethan is picking up most of the duties but he never previously igld, they didn't look for an main igl)
You said a team starting, NRG is not a team starting.
And Ethan is the IGL, wdym no dedicated IGL
Gutssz [#11]if you want to call someone "GOAT" just say it to Chronicle
In what tournament was he the mvp? Cause I don't think he ever was an MVP, he's consistently good, but was never the best.
Jeffo [#19]You said a team starting, NRG is not a team starting.
And Ethan is the IGL, wdym no dedicated IGL
when NRG played furia the announcers/casters literally said ethan had no previous igl experience, only supportive midrounding for 100t and i know NRG isn't a starting team, but they prove you don't NEED to start with an igl, you can make a system without one
Psion [#14]dude, they were up TWELVE FIVE ON MAP 3
And they lost then got 0-2 by TS, even if they beat gambit they wouldn't have gone far.
Jeffo [#23]And they lost then got 0-2 by TS, even if they beat gambit they wouldn't have gone far.
because they got boomed by losing map 3, i'm not saying they would've gotten far in playoffs but the premise is that they ALMOST beat the best or second best team of 2021
Psion [#14]dude, they were up TWELVE FIVE ON MAP 3
Let's admit that it is the essence of Brazil to throw a winning match at Icebox
Gutssz [#11]if you want to call someone "GOAT" just say it to Chronicle
How Many Champions he won?
was he even Top 3 at any champs in last 2 years? Ehm
Ic4rusYam2 [#25]Let's admit that it is the essence of Brazil to throw a winning match at Icebox
both times it was with young rookies in whoever the other 3 on vikings were and Tuyz/Cau on LOUD, but it could also just be a saadhak thing lol
Psion [#22]when NRG played furia the announcers/casters literally said ethan had no previous igl experience, only supportive midrounding for 100t and i know NRG isn't a starting team, but they prove you don't NEED to start with an igl, you can make a system without one
Bro, we all know ethan was never an igl I don't need a caster to say it.
And as i said NRG is not a team starting, when you create a team from scratch you need an igl first.
I'm pretty sure if nrg had the choice between saadhak and aspas they would've picked up aspas, cause they can handle the calling.
kamisavitar [#26]How Many Champions he won?
was he even Top 3 at any champs in last 2 years? Ehm
Invalid argument, he won 2 masters, "lock in" which i don't rate anyway and was top 3 in the champs.
His only issue is that he was never the best player in the world, you can't call someone the goat when he never was the best
Jeffo [#21]In what tournament was he the mvp? Cause I don't think he ever was an MVP, he's consistently good, but was never the best.
yeah every duelist player every entry player should be goat right
Psion [#24]because they got boomed by losing map 3, i'm not saying they would've gotten far in playoffs but the premise is that they ALMOST beat the best or second best team of 2021
100T beat gambit in group stage bro, it says nothing trust me.
Jeffo [#31]100T beat gambit in group stage bro, it says nothing trust me.
and that required the greatest comeback in the history of VCT lol
Gutssz [#30]yeah every duelist player every entry player should be goat right
alfajer being a sentinel and being a thousand times better than chronicle proves u wrong
anyth1ng [#33]alfajer being a sentinel and being a thousand times better than chronicle proves u wrong
i know prime nAts was the best for 2021 and Less was probably second for 2022 but still Chronicle is the closest player to GOAT
Gutssz [#36]i know prime nAts was the best for 2021 and Less was probably second for 2022 but still Chronicle is the closest player to GOAT
no one shares this opinion with u buddy
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