LOL u r proving u r dumb, 2022 champs with FULL POWER FPX and FNC yet it's a OPTIC LOUD final?!?!?!?!?! EU didn't even get 3rd LOL. So even with all the full power teams from EU it's the same final matchup as Reykjavik?!?!?!?
Getting a visa from certain countries is harder yes. But once you get it then there is no excuse. Demon1 had visa issues for Tokyo yet they still make finals?!?!?!?!?
So not only does Americas perform better away sometimes they dominate so much they boot EU off the podium
LOL u r proving u r dumb, 2022 champs with FULL POWER FPX and FNC yet it's a OPTIC LOUD final?!?!?!?!?! EU didn't even get 3rd LOL. So even with all the full power teams from EU it's the same final matchup as Reykjavik?!?!?!?
DRX did the work for optech, FPX would've destroyed optic
Getting a visa from certain countries is harder yes. But once you get it then there is no excuse. Demon1 had visa issues for Tokyo yet they still make finals?!?!?!?!?
Bro FPX literally had to play with a sub for majority of the tourney and they dropped to lower bracket cause of that losing their 2 ban advanatge.(still won unlike EG and PRX)
Also you didn't even get the other point. Travelling from Russia to europe is nearly as bad as travelling from us to eu(depending on location its even worse sometimes)
Dont forget abt visa issues and similar stuff and it turns out that the conditions are actually overall worse for Russia than americas and they have still won 3 tropheys despite that.(Unlike americas, there were literally 0 tourneys held there). So according to your logic Russia>>
Another "if" situation ur relying for FPX beating OPTIC
And I think you don't understand that during the season all EU teams were in Berlin. Or would at least bootcamp there for the majority of the szn, just like how LOUD and FURIA r in LA for vct. So the Russia to EU thing is a dumb excuse.
Also u literally proved my point flexing Abt FPX when I said once u get the visa there is no excuse. If ur the best team u should make finals even after dropping to lowers. U rly r a lil dummy
Seethe a cope shitter, can't accept that even with double the amount of home stands EU teams don't have what it takes to always be in finals like Americas
So the Russia to EU thing is a dumb excuse.
You're actually just a fakeflagging american cause travelling from Russia to Berlin is still bad most of the time and despite that they've gotten 2nd in champs and 1st in masters.
Also u literally proved my point flexing Abt FPX when I said once u get the visa there is no excuse. If ur the best team u should make finals even after dropping to lowers. U rly r a lil dummy
Clearly was talking abt copenhagen that fpx has won, bro actually cant read. They had to travel from Russia to iceland with visa issues and they have still won so this just proves that there's other team than fnatic that can play outside of their home(their win is also 3x more impressive than any of the ones that you've listed)
Also you ignored the point that there are literally 0 tourneys held in Russia and most of the players still have to take a long ass flight either to americas asia or europe and despite that they've won twice and gambit got 2nd in champs.
LOL u stupid as fuck I agreed Abt copenhagen bc like I said if ur the best team even dropping to lowers u should win and they did IDK what u think u proving on that LOL
And they legit have to get their visa to Berlin B4 the szn starts or else they wouldn't have been to play in Berlin LOL so like I said, once u get the visa it's not a excuse anymore, do I have to make another post agreeing with u that after getting a visa they have shown it no longer affects them?!?!?!
And now ur literally trying to twist and turn in every which way to counter the undisputed facts that EU has had DOUBLE the rest of the worlds tournaments yet don't make away finals as much as Americas make away finals or make home finals as much as Americas make home finals. This is simply just facts srry u can't wrap ur head around that and somehow think that visas r a valid excuse just bc they r harder for them to get they still have them.
And just a little extra: Americas to instanbul or Americas to Tokyo or Americas to Berlin r ALL further distances than Russia to Iceland. So Americas also makes finals after longer flights than EU
LOL u stupid as fuck I agreed Abt copenhagen bc like I said if ur the best team even dropping to lowers u should win and they did IDK what u think u proving on that LOL
And they legit have to get their visa to Berlin B4 the szn starts or else they wouldn't have been to play in Berlin LOL so like I said, once u get the visa it's not a excuse anymore, do I have to make another post agreeing with u that after getting a visa they have shown it no longer affects them?!?!?!
B-but what about adjusting sleep schedule, losing time cause of travelling, living in unfamiliar place and jet lag? Or do you think Russians dont have it for some reason. That was literally my point that you've just straight up ignored
And just a little extra: Americas to instanbul or Americas to Tokyo or Americas to Berlin r ALL further distances than Russia to Iceland. So Americas also makes finals after longer flights than EU
This is just false unless you live exactly on Russian border and that doesnt apply to any gambit or fpx player
And now ur literally trying to twist and turn in every which way to counter the undisputed facts that EU has had DOUBLE the rest of the worlds tournaments yet don't make away finals as much as Americas make away finals or make home finals as much as Americas make home finals. This is simply just facts srry u can't wrap ur head around that and somehow think that visas r a valid excuse just bc they r harder for them to get they still have them.
you were talking abt how shits biased cause more tourneys are held in europe rather than americas but its even worse for Russians that are technically part of emea and their results are more impressive
If visa isnt a valid excuse then idk whats wrong with you because it takes so much time off the players even if they get it
OMG bro like any of the sleep, losing prac time is comparable when it's a 4 hr journey versus a full day of travelling. Ur right they r a 1:1 comparison how did I not notice that?!?!?!?! And it's totally just as much of a culture shock and unfamiliar place going from Americas to EU or EU to EU. Of course the difference is just as drastic. (Sarcasm btw, know I have to spell it out for u)
Visa is no longer an excuse after u have the fucking visa. Sure if ur playing without ur full team it sucks but them not having visa issues getting into Americas/Tokyo tournament so it's not an excuse for not making the finals which is what my entire thread has been Abt.
And ur argument that the Russian players who had to fly mid season, meaning from Berlin, to Iceland, or turkey is not comparable to flying from Americas to Berlin, or turkey or Iceland. Sure they still have to apply for visas but they do that ahead of time. And then only have a very short trip which is equal to the trip any other EU team would have to make from Berlin to wherever tf they r going.
If ur so upset Abt Russian players being hard done by then there is nothing I can say that will make u feel better bc their government has fucked them over. But u have Russian players dicks so far up ur ass and mouth u cannot recognize that the tournament bias still fucking sucks for the rest of the world yet they can actually host events in the rest of the world. I guarantee u we will not be seeing a Russia hosted event for a whilleeeee bc of politics.
OMG bro like any of the sleep, losing prac time is comparable when it's a 4 hr journey versus a full day of travelling
Whered u get the 4 hr and a full day from. There are lots of place where flying from Russia to eu will take way way more than us to eu
And it's totally just as much of a culture shock and unfamiliar place going from Americas to EU or EU to EU
Bro I've never seen such a clueless person LMAO. us and eu difference is LESS SIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO RUSSIA. We're literally opposites of europe and america in real life you idiot.
If ur so upset Abt Russian players being hard done by then there is nothing I can say that will make u feel better bc their government has fucked them over. But u have Russian players dicks so far up ur ass and mouth u cannot recognize that the tournament bias still fucking sucks for the rest of the world yet they can actually host events in the rest of the world. I guarantee u we will not be seeing a Russia hosted event for a whilleeeee bc of politics.
Also visa issues still matter at the start of tourneys
The 4 hrs was a random estimate from Berlin to Iceland. Once again if they are travelling mid season they are gonna be in Berlin bc that is where the best servers r for prac, and where the vct games r held. They r not flying out of Russia unless they went home for a weekend or something.
I 100% disagree with u Abt Russia somehow being the opposite of America and EU at the same time. R u saying EU and Americas cultures r exactly the same?! That makes literally no sense. Russians are ethnically european, they speak a Slavic language and Russians cultural ancestors where from Scandinavians and slavics. All the most popular places in Russia where created and influenced heavily by European culture but sure. Americas, including all of latin America and South America are muuuuch more similar to Europe the Russia is. Most definitely.
Once again I understand if ur upset for the players but there is nothing that can be done bc of political stuff so y fuck the rest of the world over and just keep EU happy with hosted tournaments when there could be a much more equally spread tournament locations?
Don't even know why the conversation was shifted to just talk Abt Russia when it's BS that EU has all the tournaments regardless
The 4 hrs was a random estimate from Berlin to Iceland. Once again if they are travelling mid season they are gonna be in Berlin bc that is where the best servers r for prac, and where the vct games r held. They r not flying out of Russia unless they went home for a weekend or something.
Idk where did u get that from. You can play on frank at Russia with decent ping and also cis league existed back then and had lots of teams so there was no need. Anyways you're just wrong and the time isnt right
I 100% disagree with u Abt Russia somehow being the opposite of America and EU at the same time. R u saying EU and Americas cultures r exactly the same?! That makes literally no sense. Russians are ethnically european, they speak a Slavic language and Russians cultural ancestors where from Scandinavians and slavics. All the most popular places in Russia where created and influenced heavily by European culture but sure. Americas, including all of latin America and South America are muuuuch more similar to Europe the Russia is. Most definitely.
I'm saying that as a Russian a lot of people will disagree. Games were held in berlin iceland and denmark anyways where people speak English(completely different language). Our cultures are completely different and you're free to search that up on internet.
All the most popular places in Russia where created and influenced heavily by European culture but sure.
Mostly SPB but that's like 10% and we heavily dislike europe in general + why would most popular places matter if only like 10-20% population of Russia lives there.
Anyways living in Russia is completely different than in Europe
Don't even know why the conversation was shifted to just talk Abt Russia when it's BS that EU has all the tournaments regardless
Russia is part of emea atm. gambit and fpx had 3 impressive runs and they also had lots of problems including travelling one so your first point where you talked abt fnatic being the only team that can perform with travelling issues is wrong
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