Team Secret vs. Talon Esports | Champions Tour 2024: Pacific Kickoff | Group Stage | Valorant match

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS	6 4 +2	6 2 +4	4 6 -2	5 11 -6	7 7 +0
JessieVash TS	7 3 +4	1 5 -4	3 8 -5	3 9 -6	9 3 +6
invy TS	4 4 +0	2 6 -4	3 6 -3	4 7 -3	4 7 -3
NDG TS	0 6 -6	3 7 -4	2 2 +0	2 11 -9	2 4 -2
BORKUM TS	4 2 +2	4 2 +2	2 5 -3	5 8 -3	2 13 -11

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS		1 2 -1	1 0 +1	3 5 -2	0 1 -1
JessieVash TS	1 0 +1		0 1 -1	1 1 +0	0 2 -2
invy TS	1 1 +0		0 2 -2	0 1 -1	1 0 +1
NDG TS				1 3 -2	0 1 -1
BORKUM TS	1 1 +0		1 1 +0	1 1 +0	0 1 -1

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS		1 0 +1		0 3 -3	0 2 -2
JessieVash TS				0 1 -1
invy TS				0 1 -1	0 1 -1
NDG TS				0 3 -3
BORKUM TS				0 1 -1	0 2 -2

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v3	ECON	PL	DE
BORKUM TS	4					43	4	0
JessieVash TS	4	2		1	1	46	6	1
Jremy TS	6	1				62	0	1
invy TS	4					32	5	0
NDG TS						29	1	0
Crws TLN	5			1		39	3	1
Governor TLN	4	7	2			90	0	5
ban TLN	6	3		1		51	0	1
lenne TLN	4	1	1			77	2	1
JitBoyS TLN	4	1				63	4	2

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS	3 2 +1	4 2 +2	3 3 +0	4 3 +1	2 5 -3
JessieVash TS	5 2 +3	1 3 -2	3 3 +0	2 5 -3	5 2 +3
invy TS	3 4 -1	2 1 +1	2 1 +1	2 5 -3	3 4 -1
NDG TS	0 5 -5	2 2 +0	1 1 +0	1 4 -3	1 3 -2
BORKUM TS	2 0 +2	2 0 +2	2 2 +0	4 4 +0	2 8 -6

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS		1 2 -1	1 0 +1	2 2 +0	0 1 -1
JessieVash TS	1 0 +1			1 1 +0	0 1 -1
invy TS	1 1 +0			0 1 -1	1 0 +1
NDG TS				1 0 +1	0 1 -1
BORKUM TS			1 0 +1	1 0 +1

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS		1 0 +1		0 1 -1	0 2 -2
JessieVash TS				0 1 -1
invy TS					0 1 -1
NDG TS
BORKUM TS					0 2 -2

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	ECON	PL	DE
BORKUM TS	3 Round 1 ban Crws Round 10 ban JitBoyS Round 19 Crws Governor				55	1	0
JessieVash TS	3 Round 6 Governor Crws Round 8 lenne ban Round 9 Crws ban	1 Round 13 JitBoyS ban lenne			50	4	1
Jremy TS	4 Round 12 ban Governor Round 14 Crws Governor Round 18 Crws JitBoyS Round 19 lenne JitBoyS	1 Round 3 lenne Crws JitBoyS			62	0	1
invy TS	3 Round 11 JitBoyS ban Round 13 Crws Governor Round 18 Governor lenne				34	1	0
NDG TS					30	1	0
Crws TLN	4 Round 1 Jremy NDG Round 15 invy NDG Round 17 NDG invy Round 20 JessieVash NDG			1 Round 8 JessieVash	44	2	1
Governor TLN	1 Round 9 Jremy JessieVash	2 Round 1 invy BORKUM JessieVash Round 2 JessieVash NDG invy	2 Round 4 BORKUM NDG invy JessieVash Round 7 Jremy invy NDG BORKUM		71	0	2
ban TLN	3 Round 8 Jremy BORKUM Round 9 NDG BORKUM Round 12 NDG invy	3 Round 6 invy BORKUM Jremy Round 17 Jremy JessieVash BORKUM Round 21 Jremy BORKUM invy		1 Round 6 Jremy	62	0	1
lenne TLN	2 Round 5 JessieVash BORKUM Round 15 BORKUM Jremy				47	1	0
JitBoyS TLN	2 Round 5 invy NDG Round 6 JessieVash NDG				54	3	0

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS	3 2 +1	2 0 +2	1 3 -2	1 8 -7	5 2 +3
JessieVash TS	2 1 +1	0 2 -2	0 5 -5	1 4 -3	4 1 +3
invy TS	1 0 +1	0 5 -5	1 5 -4	2 2 +0	1 3 -2
NDG TS	0 1 -1	1 5 -4	1 1 +0	1 7 -6	1 1 +0
BORKUM TS	2 2 +0	2 2 +0	0 3 -3	1 4 -3	0 5 -5

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS				1 3 -2
JessieVash TS			0 1 -1		0 1 -1
invy TS			0 2 -2
NDG TS				0 3 -3
BORKUM TS	1 1 +0		0 1 -1	0 1 -1	0 1 -1

	Crws TLN	JitBoyS TLN	lenne TLN	Governor TLN	ban TLN
Jremy TS				0 2 -2
JessieVash TS
invy TS				0 1 -1
NDG TS				0 3 -3
BORKUM TS				0 1 -1

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v3	ECON	PL	DE
BORKUM TS	1 Round 12 Crws Governor					31	3	0
JessieVash TS	1 Round 13 ban Crws	1 Round 3 Crws Governor ban		1 Round 12 ban	1 Round 3 ban Crws Governor	42	2	0
Jremy TS	2 Round 1 ban Crws Round 11 ban Crws					61	0	0
invy TS	1 Round 6 ban Governor					30	4	0
NDG TS						27	0	0
Crws TLN	1 Round 7 JessieVash NDG					33	1	0
Governor TLN	3 Round 1 NDG JessieVash Round 5 BORKUM Jremy Round 15 NDG JessieVash	5 Round 2 Jremy BORKUM invy Round 3 NDG BORKUM Jremy Round 8 BORKUM invy Jremy Round 10 NDG Jremy JessieVash Round 16 Jremy NDG JessieVash				108	0	3
ban TLN	3 Round 6 Jremy BORKUM Round 9 Jremy invy Round 13 invy BORKUM					40	0	0
lenne TLN	2 Round 6 JessieVash invy Round 14 invy BORKUM	1 Round 15 BORKUM invy Jremy	1 Round 11 BORKUM Jremy invy JessieVash			106	1	1
JitBoyS TLN	2 Round 10 invy BORKUM Round 14 NDG JessieVash	1 Round 5 JessieVash invy NDG				71	1	2

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osyduck

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there's no way TS lose this match

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c00b

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theres a way

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danii1

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Maybe if Surf plays

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Rennqt

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Uh oh

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coollol

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Ono

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Bloxy

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You jinxed them

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Markairenz4

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unfortunately

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osyduck

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lmao that was unexpected

NneonZz

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i saw in a vision ts throws and loses 1-2

destroylonely

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TS 2-0 invy drops 65

rosso4000

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invy drops 98

21Amaterasu

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Jremy 5 man classic ace

grenji

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Lmao they gave us the easy group. Talon 2-0.

Obsidian_Echo

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im with you....TS is over-rated imo

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jeb

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how is TS overrated when no one even rates them

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RageSG

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i meannnn isnt this comment section enough of proof?

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Breloof

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No one rates TS, people just think Talon sucks

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grenji

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They called me a madman. This shit was like -5 at one point btw.

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AlphanumericCharacters

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uhmm actually no one did!

inafog

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Ts wins 2-0

Warlordwibz

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TS 2-0 Warbirds masterclass

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Simp4S0m

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TS 2-0 Talon
Invy masterclass incoming. Can't wait to see what they can do with a new duelist

#11

koromast

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TS will win simply because they have invy

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Lyze

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Imagine losing to nepo ordg

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devooor

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lenne vs his prev. team

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PandaCoco1

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ts 2-1 talon, i have a gut feeling that ts would choke a map

#17

ALoKi007

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If you think Team Secret will win upvote this comment.
If you think Talon Esports will win downvote this comment.
ISTG this will be the final result!

#18

kome-natsui

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TS 0 - 2 TLN
TS should be the clear winner here. Emphasis on should.
TS came off a dominant win against various T2 teams in the recent Predator League, so clearly nothing much has changed.
Talon, however, is much more unpredictable. Keeping only crws and Jitboys, the new players are notable in various ways (especially lenne, having played briefly as TS's 6th). Sure, their performance in the offseason has looked shaky, but they have since had plenty of time to fix things.
We have seen cases where these kinds of moves surprise, especially since we've literally seen this last year, with TS winning 2-1 against Talon.
Anyways, TLDR TS wins this.

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fapcity

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Wrote all that to get destroyed LOL

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kome-natsui

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Yeah...

#20

Asuna_Yuuki

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NA diff

TLN 2-0

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Obelisk

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TS 2-0 TLN

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peanutchin

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lenne revenge arc

#23

Markairenz4

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i think this is a close match
edit: not

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froggy_lol

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TS 2-1 TLN

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froggy_lol

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I wasn’t even slightly correct

#25

bearmans

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whatever team lenne is in, that team is a guaranteed shit team.

#26

aunjini555

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As a Thai esport fan , i can confirm that TS def gonna win but maybe 2-1 if TLN didn't trow

#27

omsinzz

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TS please win for thai people <3

#29

my-dad-ate-my-toes

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Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

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LYCANTOT

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Team Secret vs Governor and friends

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zellsid

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invy drops 35 first map

#33

Kalbengg

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TS 2-1

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Kekepoy

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GOOO!!!! TS i hope they qualify this year

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Lyze

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I dreamed that Talon 26-0 TS 💀

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Mebi

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Well you aren't that far away

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CarnageBTC

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Close enough

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TEHMANISDINGIN

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BATTLE OF CLOWN

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zefanyaa

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Wrong thread I don't see RRQ here

#43

AzShun

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both of this team got clown by rrq lol

#44

zefanyaa

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and yet didn't even reach the playoffs last year 😭😭😭😭

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AzShun

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didnt change a fact that both of this team is below rrq

#47

zefanyaa

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Irrelevant. Bringing Russian and Korean ain't enough to carry ur tier 3 region

#50

AzShun

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your? so singapore isnt apac now? idiot your best team didnt even need player from your country so stfu. Singapore team but have 3 Indonesian player and 0 singapore lol

#61

sternritteR

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orang pinoy itu tapi pake bendera singapore, biasa vlr banyak fake flagger

#63

AzShun

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kalau beneran lebih gak layak lagi dibuat komen begitu awkwokowkowkowk

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sternritteR

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sebenernya gara2 banyak yang bilang player pinoy di rrq itu tier 2. doi jadi kesel, makanya kalau lihat profilnya isi replynya pasti ngejelek-jelekin indo

#38

RebelHeartXO

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HOY TS AYUSIN NYO LARO NYO SA LINGGO HA

edit: TANGINA TALO NANAMAN

#39

PandaCoco1

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better win this ts

#40

betadyne

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battle of mid

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Al-Mawsil

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nope mid vs trash

#41

makesung

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This is TLN test normally TS will win for sure but if TLN can surprise us maybe it will be TLN 2-1

#42

VINNYdeuS

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TS path to valorant champions seoul winners

#46

Orik

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TS please win

#48

Tess

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TS 2-0 easily, TLN still lost t2 thai team.

#149

Tess

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my bad, ban my GOAT

#163

aburnie

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Thai fans are petty (me included) for dropping the Thai roster for an international team but their Afreeca TV performance was literally with less than a week of practice. You can still see some traces of shaky comms but overall TLN's trading really impressed me here. Lenne's IGLing and reads have also impressed me and I can see how dedicated he is to this role + I'm happy Crws can finally sit back and play the game without worrying about calling (albeit this game was not really great for him stats-wise).

Ban finally getting to play duelist again and KAYO which is practically a duelist. Governor showing us why he's a ranked demon (we'll see how he performs against opponents that actually shoot back) but as long as he stays confident we'll be chill since his duelist hero pool is also very diverse. Jitboys and Crws ~ what can I say say, they're both such solid players with Jitboys having insane mechanics and Crws having that giga-brain. Last but not least, as long as Lenne can keep calling well and stay calm whilst pulling his own weight then this team looks solid.

#49

LYCANTOT

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Let Lenne Lead

#51

KimSamSung

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lenne revenge arc

#52

nobu0304_

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Manzeu Army‼️ All-out assault 🫵︎🐮‼️

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taxjett

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lol

#53

simurgh

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TS 2-1 My pride will never let me support this roster.

#140

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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กกน. Diff

#54

Fyujin

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a TLN win is a path for TS rebuild
LFG TLN 2-0 them

#62

Prathades

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ain't no way TS rebuild, the manager is the wife of the igl.

#55

Lyze

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WKWKWKWK BYE TS

#57

PandaCoco1

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ts what doing bro

#58

Lyze

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Nu Na Guys? HAHAHAHA

#59

User011098

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governor masterclass right here

#60

Lyze

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RRQ will make this team retire

#65

PandaCoco1

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rip ts

#67

callsmejnine

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What happened to NDG? His aim was really good the past matches. Kinda disappointing performance from him this first match. Literally 5 killss and 15 deaths. But hoping it'll change this next one. LFG TS. Lets comeback, we cant lose this.

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PandaCoco1

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same thing with havoc, first time playing on the big stage can cause pressure

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CarnageBTC

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Well....it got worse

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CecBrands

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This ts team is so bad, so bad, that it makes it seem like the Tln team is good, but they are just as bad. incredible

#69

CTZIN2K

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they just don't want to get the prx, everything thought out

#71

Kurishe-

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Kick dubstep for NDG? 5-15 on cypher ☠️☠️

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sternritteR

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scrim leaker was better wkwkwkwk

#73

PandaCoco1

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you ain't wrong

#74

Lyze

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DFM might have a chance now

#75

PandaCoco1

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man even giansanity might be better than ndg

#76

ncahlil

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What happened to the 60hz laptop radiant

#78

PandaCoco1

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ndg forgetting that vct monitors support 350hz

#77

callsmejnine

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What happened to NDG bro??Hoping itll change and he'll feel more comfortable and relaxed the next map. LFGGGG TSSSSSSS

#79

Lyze

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Wla ng next map hahaha

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callsmejnine

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sayang gagi. Ang hype nila tas ganun lang performance. Pero considering na former ts si lenne mayroon din siyang upperhand a bit?! kasi alam niya yung ibang strats nila. But still wow they got stomped, even NDG. Man, I was hoping. Pero losing lang pala, wow 9/30

#80

PandaCoco1

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bruh I hate to say this but lyze is right ts is so bad

#84

Lyze

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im always right

#85

PandaCoco1

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my goat

#81

1ucid

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TLN looking really good,

#83

silverlink

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NDG is ASS lmao

#86

fapcity

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TS not good at all, but Talon looking strong

#87

ComradeVonAustria

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lmao, easiest 2-0

#89

Deephh

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drop my goat giansanity for ndg ?

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Prathades

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he did leak prx scrims which may caused him to get blacklisted

#102

PandaCoco1

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I'd rather have the scrim leaker than someone who plays like a bot

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Prathades

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then how can ts scrim with another team when they got blacklisted?

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sternritteR

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tier 2:(

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RohJisun

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lenne gets revenge lol

#94

fapcity

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korean jett too good

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sloth_exe

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governor is HIM

#96

stromfil

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Complete bots

#98

Lyze

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Enri, Milktea, and Hyeok2044 would've done better

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Cholo

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team secret washed

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Derpp

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rise of a beast

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highlyte

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I don't understand... what did TS do in the off-season?

#109

Lyze

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win a pointless league

#111

StyrofoamOne

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signed governor who just absolutely smurfed on them

#113

PandaCoco1

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farmed tier 2 teams and became complacent

#103

RohJisun

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9 kills in 2 games, yikes

#104

Xlares

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HAHAHAHHAHA

#105

Warlordwibz

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Lenne notebook diff

#106

Bloxy

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Governor popped off

#107

LYCANTOT

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Free Jremy.

#108

Newgate1

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how come TS pick up this NDG bots, old dubstep is better lmao

#112

simurgh

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.... TS can't even do me a favor

#114

Lyze

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You know what I'm just gonna hope NAOS win ascension at least they actually sign great players

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Walker72

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I think FS will win bro this year. They have fox and sushi.

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Lyze

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Yea thats why im just hoping for them but i think FS is just on another level than any other region right now

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sternritteR

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bruh, there's Full sense, BOOM/AE, FENNEL, DSG. NAOS didn't have a chance

#137

Lyze

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Bro i said im hoping i didnt say NAOS will win and besides i have no hope to the teams you mentioned except full sense

#138

sternritteR

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let see

#115

bloodysky

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Sell the team

#116

hirandas_hiko_kumar

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RIP PICKEMS

#118

Tutatong

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Crazy how bad TS is

#120

cyk

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shit the pants

#121

ncahlil

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9 30 holy that's a time check

#122

jimjam789

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Should have played lenne last year

#136

Mebi

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Well lenne was in TS. Guess it's revenge arc from him

#123

Breakfilz

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1 nation team barely works anymore tbh

#124

Twentytwo

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Holy talon is winning champs 2024

#125

lilwho

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That was a fast game

#129

Prathades

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they want sliggy to sleep early after what they the broadcast did yesterday

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destroylonely

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NA talent carrying once again

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Sh4rke

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Okay... Been watching TS for so long now. Here's my take in this match...

The strats that I'ven been seeing in TS for so long has been missing this game, like where are the strats at? Seems like they have been neutralized by talon. Team secret has been struggling on teams with very good duelist/oper. You can look up their matches and most of their losses are teams with S-tier duelist/oper.

NDG is a downgrade version of Dubstep. YES he is, dubstep can do what NDG does but NDG cant do what dubstep does. At least dubstep can be a good anchor for TS with that operator but NDG cant. He looks lost in this match. What TS need is a very good duelist that smells blood better than everybody else.

Dont get me wrong TS is a very good team, just inconsistent. When against a team with good duelist or an unpredictable team like Talon, TS plays like shit what more on better teams this year...

NDG out, call that boy GIANSANITY!!!

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highlyte

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if the problem is the duelist, why is it so hard for them to sign Yoshiiii or JA?

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MaTrix96

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Nepotism bro. Just look at Witz - a duelist main when he started in valo and actually showed potential in icebox vs gambit when he played reyna. This org is a family business.

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yeremy

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fuck it, time to import please

#133

PowerUk

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No dubstep no win

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Scrossi

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my goat governor own these frauds

#147

el_cucuy

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shouldve gotten Clear

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callsmejnine

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stopped watching after an 8-1 something on ascent. Wow. Can't even say nice try. Bro I give up, prolly just gonna support T1 this time. AHAAHAHAHA i hate it bro. I preferred gian for TS but when NDG got it I fully supported him. I thought bro could actually change things despite how minimal the changes were in TS. I hope, I hope, I hope he shows tryouts NDG. Invy is the most consistent out of them, so maybe ill change teams but illl still root for Invy.

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MNFRKK

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single digit in 1 series is kinda sad lol

#152

rufinii_im

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😢

#153

PootisSpencerHere

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my cope on TS was insane huh

#159

callsmejnine

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me too bro, me too

#154

RebelHeartXO

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Ang tolongges ata na sinasabi ni Jremy ay mga sarili nila

#155

RebelHeartXO

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Ang tolongges ata na sinasabi ni Jremy ay mga sarili nila

#156

str8fax

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If the gatekeepers in NA stopped recycling the same washed players, you'd see more players like Governor shining.

#162

LouBag

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While I agree that Governor is a great player, who would he replace in NA?

Leaf
Demon1
Zekken
Cryo
Oxy

? The issue is that NA have the best duelists. You can MAYBE make the argument that he is just as good as some of those names (personally I don’t think he is, not yet at least) but I don’t think anyone who knows Valorant would say gov is better.

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masterbettr

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honestly, good take

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Ullyr

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Governor smurfed on them lol

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seaB

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bring back dubstep

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batchestingveryhard

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talon is back baby