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"you're structuring your argument like you're about to submit it to your fifth grade teacher. even your mindless insults calling me a dumbass and stating my lack of intelligence (when I haven't said a thing about YOU as a person to begin with!) sound like something an 11yo would come up with. the fact that you even need to use personal insults to get your point across signifies how weak it is."

Well the lack of intelligence is just a fact, wasn't even meant as an insult lmfao. I'm just being blunt about factual observations related to you, you're genuinely unintelligent. when did I have to use personal insults to get my point across? I already explained my argument and debunked YOURS before i even 'insulted' you lmao.

Again, your definition of favourite is not the one and only definition of favourite. Just because YOU believe thats what the definition is, doesnt mean anything. favourite definition - a competitor judged most likely to win https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/favorite

literally, merriam webster dictionary definition. It proves me right, you have no sources, just the bullshit that you managed to pull out of your ass and pass off as 'valid' and 'true' in absence of your argument, LMFAO. It's genuinely funny seeing how desperate you are, shifting your argument every single time. You realize that you have no chance with the main argument we were discussing, now you proceed to try and dispute semantics with me about the definition of favourite. Pretentious fuck.

So there you go, being a favourite has nothing to do necessarily with betting, just being the most likely option to win, and the way to determine that most likely factor, is obviously, as I've explained, through match results and accomplishments.

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saucegod8

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"a competitor judged most likely to win"

please tell me, who exactly does this judging? is it the scoreboard? no, it's people. people judge who will win. you inadvertently just proved MY argument right. this is the point where I call you a stupid asshole, but I won't, since I'm a decent person and understand that because we disagree on something, doesn't make you any of those things.

there isn't even a point in arguing with you. i haven't got a single braincell left to lose after reading that. someone please take over from here. have a good day/night, dude.

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Do you know how to read? Or do you just have a genuine lack of brain cells, because you'd think its obvious who does the judging and how it gets judged? People do the judging with objective and factual decisions by looking at match results and accomplishments. I haven't proved your argument right at all, lmfao. Betting is not always factual when it comes to looking at the favourites. It's entirely possible to have a scenario in which the clear favourite doesn't get betted the most, and the clear underdog gets betted the most? It's unlikely, and unreasonable , but still possible, and therefore proves that betting odds arent reliable 100% of the time like match results and accomplishments are. Just because a bunch of people bet for the underdog doesnt make them the favourite, the favourite is still the one more likelier to win. Anyways, I've proved you wrong factually, and objectively speaking, and with no intention to insult you at all, you are DEFINITIONALLY a dumbass, and retarded.

Deadass man, I'm not being mean here at all, my intention is just to be blunt and reasonable, you're genuinely stupid LMAO. You haven't made a single good point at all, and it's pathetic how you keep trying to 1 up me and retort with some bullshit argument that you probably thought was clever in your head. Nice try though, you got debunked hard by me.

#53

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there's no reason to be annoyed anymore, I already said we should stop and I think you should agree with me on that. let's just agree to disagree and go our separate ways. again, have a good night!

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dignityx3

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We should stop, because I've already factually proven you wrong and dismantled your garbage argument. There is no agreeing to disagreeing here, you can disagree all you want but it doesn't change the objective fact that I'm right.

#65

saucegod8

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okay :) believe what you want boss. doesnt change the fact that you're fuckin wrong

#129

dignityx3

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Nah, you're delusional, imagine editing it later just to suit your stubborn needs and insecurities LMAO. Actually pathetic, and I just noticed. You're factually wrong.

#140

saucegod8

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I'm done arguing with you, you're a waste of my time. I've now learned that arguing with someone with a superiority complex as massive as yours is completely pointless, since you just think everything you say is not only right but also unthinkably smart. hands down the most annoying and sad person I've met on the internet in a long time. the fact that you even decided to come back here to check if I'd said anything more just for the sake of calling me delusional is even more pathetic than anything I've ever done in my entire life. it's like you're looking for people to argue with. to be honest, neither of us are really right here; people probably use a mix of both betting and statistics. go ahead with the "oh now you're changing your argument again" shit. twist it whichever way you want. but either we're both equally wrong or we're both equally right at this point.

as a side note, anyone can say, "objectively, I'm right." anyone can take a "source" and twist what it says whichever way they want. these things mean nothing, and yet they were what composed 75% of your arguments. and you still think you're right. either way, let's just stop replying to each other before more people see this and figure we're a bunch of braindead manchildren. I'm already embarrassed enough as is. say what you want, I'm done here.

#141

dignityx3

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There is no superiority complex, but its funny that you'd attribute your lack of intelligence and lack of a good argument to a nonexistent thing LMAO. pathetic tbh. Everything I've said in this argument with you has been backed by facts and logic yet none of what you said has been backed by anything but your ass and your emotions.

"to be honest, neither of us are really right here; people probably use a mix of both betting and statistics. go ahead with the "oh now you're changing your argument again" shit. twist it whichever way you want. but either we're both equally wrong or we're both equally right at this point."

No ,definitely not. You're 100% factually wrong, and I'm 100% factually right. IF you deny this, you are delusional. I've already debunked your shitty excuse of an argument. You're the only braindead clown here lmao, you're embarrassing yourself by even thinking you're on the same level as me in this debate which is funny and delusional.

#115

dignityx3

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Fnatic beating liquid, empirical proof of betting odds not being reliable! Liquid had the better odds, by a lot, yet lost. But guess what, the favoured pick by match results, Fnatic, won!

#119

PotatoCh1ps

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I used to bet some time ago and I can say favoured team has lower odds, refer odd to as multiplier, if your team has say odd 1.28 and you bet $100, you will get $128

#138

saucegod8

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fnatic was the favorite. i guess you don't watch esports either. if you want my pick'em to prove that I favored fnatic, I can gladly send it over.

#142

dignityx3

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They werent, you dumbass LMAO. The betting odds literally favoured Liquid 1.8 to 1.9 for Fnatic

#143

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you're taking an example from one match and parading around with it like it proves me completely wrong. also, I'm not sure where you're getting that info from, everywhere I've checked so far, fnatic was the favorite. again, done talking to you, go back to the psych ward.

#145

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That example isnt what proved you wrong though, it was my entire argument debunking your shitty argument. Either way, the stats were here on vlr from bet.gg. Liquid was the favourite.