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Every team on whether they improved or got worse*

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LycheeBlade

Original thread here

*my points of comparison are Lock-in / the start of the regular season vs the end of Masters/current LCQ. Since LCQ is ongoing that can obviously change stuff for the LCQ teams.

image here (not virus link i promise)

some notes on why i placed certain teams in certain tiers:

  • Vitality isn't included because it's not fair to them after what happened.
  • PRX in "clear improvement" post-Something (they were rocky pre-Something).
  • LOUD in "got worse" after crashing out in Masters, but if you exclude that they're in "remained mostly the same." same with NAVI
  • RRQ and BBL weren't expected to do very well but they almost snatched a playoff spot in their respective leagues, so they have potential.
  • EDG + KangKang went much further than anyone expected, so "clear improvement."
  • BLG and ASE weren't included in the list I used. BLG go in "clear improvement" after qualifying for Champs, ASE remained mostly the same (not very good)
  • I AM NOT COMPARING TEAMS AGAINST EACH OTHER, JUST HOW THEY PERFORMED. FNATIC IS IN THE MIDDLE TIER BECAUSE THEY REMAINED THE SAME (GOOD)

i welcome thoughts and opinions. i may edit the list today and provide a new link after i see people's comments. i obviously couldn't watch every match in every league so some more input is appreciated. might also make a list after Champs just to see how much each team changed post-lockin

EDITS FOR THE LATER LIST:

  • EDG to most improved (owen has convinced me)
  • Liquid to "clear improvement" (i didn't realize they were really bad in lock in, but I expected them to be top 3 emea anyway. dolphin has enlightened me there)
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Good list

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MonkaHmm interesting

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LycheeBlade
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Ailed [#2]

Good list

no bias obviously?

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LycheeBlade [#4]

no bias obviously?

None at all 😺😺😺

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streamcentral
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How come SEN shows potential? LMAO this guy is delusional

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streamcentral [#6]

How come SEN shows potential? LMAO this guy is delusional

Current Sen looked a lot more promising than d0phh sen.

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LycheeBlade
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streamcentral [#6]

How come SEN shows potential? LMAO this guy is delusional

-dephh +marved was a big upgrade

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aylez
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yes ^_^

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LycheeBlade
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aylez [#9]

yes ^_^

i knew i could get your support on this aylez, just a hunch

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put EDG in most improved ngl

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Dolphin
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liquid is an improved team. yeah they lacked a bit more in toyko, but they looked horrible in lock//in and went from that to top emea

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LycheeBlade [#10]

i knew i could get your support on this aylez, just a hunch

ofc :> !!

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Qwertyy [#11]

put EDG in most improved ngl

i had them there initially, i just thought the improvements seen from KRU and especially EG were larger atm. if they do well in champs then they totally deserve the "most improved" spot

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Liquid clearly improved from LOCK//IN to the end of Tokyo but W list otherwise

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while SEN surely improves after dephh left but still not on a level to actually show potential imo

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Dolphin [#12]

liquid is an improved team. yeah they lacked a bit more in toyko, but they looked horrible in lock//in and went from that to top emea

liquid was one of the few teams i lacked a bit of familiarity with. were they really that bad in lock//in? i just always expected them to be top 3 in emea in regular season regardless and they did fine in masters from what i saw

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LycheeBlade [#14]

i had them there initially, i just thought the improvements seen from KRU and especially EG were larger atm. if they do well in champs then they totally deserve the "most improved" spot

EDG went from losing to 100T to dismantling LOUD, KRU never actually looked bad, they just couldnt close out matches

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Zeah [#16]

while SEN surely improves after dephh left but still not on a level to actually show potential imo

my argument is that SEN hasn't had the time to really show their improvement...as of now, at least. it still felt like a clear upgrade after getting marved, so they're at least showing a little potential there

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Qwertyy [#18]

EDG went from losing to 100T to dismantling LOUD, KRU never actually looked bad, they just couldnt close out matches

i guess that's true. if kru's big improvement was just clearing their mental hurdle of not closing out matches then edg deserves to be in that same tier. all credit to kru nevertheless -- going 0-9 and now potentially going to champs is still a huge improvement

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LycheeBlade [#17]

liquid was one of the few teams i lacked a bit of familiarity with. were they really that bad in lock//in? i just always expected them to be top 3 in emea in regular season regardless and they did fine in masters from what i saw

yeh they were real bad there, and it was no fluke because at the beginning of the season they also looked bad. as time went on they became better

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streamcentral [#6]

How come SEN shows potential? LMAO this guy is delusional

Do you know what "shows potential" means? It means they have the POTENTIAL to be good. Not that they are particularly good right now. Use your brain.

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