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what is this bitch waffling about?

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#1
melon_fan

https://twitter.com/esmeevee/status/1676787716334206977?s=46&t=VK_mVEE71WjCkZfa8dflIg
Using statistics to be a transphobe 💀

Pretty sure she is the same girl that said for guys to lie about being girls and play in women’s tournaments?
(https://twitter.com/esmeevee/status/1673566331658989568?s=46&t=VK_mVEE71WjCkZfa8dflIg)

She has to be doing this for attention to pit the community against each other or something

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not her again

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melon_fan
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Qwertyy [#2]

not her again

Made a thread about her and it got deleted L mods

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nutab1e
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babysasuke fathered sarahfrags

https://twitter.com/sarah_frags/status/1676990765082214417?s=20

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melon_fan
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nutab1e [#4]

babysasuke fathered sarahfrags

https://twitter.com/sarah_frags/status/1676990765082214417?s=20

Sarahfrags my goat

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GreyDaze
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Who is she even?

#7
ortuh
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classic do little research on a topic to push your own opinions and agenda

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babysasuke
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nutab1e [#4]

babysasuke fathered sarahfrags

https://twitter.com/sarah_frags/status/1676990765082214417?s=20

based, pretty much what I was thinking while going through her Twitter

Homophobic and racist to America, how much worse can it get -_-

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frakeN
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no one cares about her

#10
melon_fan
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babysasuke [#8]

based, pretty much what I was thinking while going through her Twitter

Homophobic and racist to America, how much worse can it get -_-

She’s trying to divide the valorant community like qanon or something 🙀

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melon_fan [#10]

She’s trying to divide the valorant community like qanon or something 🙀

You should DM her and ask her nicely to reassess her position on these topics and put together a more informed opinion

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babysasuke [#11]

You should DM her and ask her nicely to reassess her position on these topics and put together a more informed opinion

you are right

#13
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babysasuke [#8]

based, pretty much what I was thinking while going through her Twitter

Homophobic and racist to America, how much worse can it get -_-

own that fraud like usual!

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melon_fan
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melon_fan [#3]

Made a thread about her and it got deleted L mods

It prob got deleted cuz it half of the reply’s were “if I speak”

#15
autumnly
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melon_fan [#14]

It prob got deleted cuz it half of the reply’s were “if I speak”

i love transphobia if i speak jokes its so fun fuck this community

#16
EWW_EU_EWHO
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W based opinion

#17
babysasuke
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autumnly [#15]

i love transphobia if i speak jokes its so fun fuck this community

⁉️

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autumnly
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babysasuke [#17]

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i am being sarcastic i hate it and seeing any gc posts when trans ppl are mentioned the replies make me wanna do bad things

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Why so pressed about this

#20
Ailed
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autumnly [#18]

i am being sarcastic i hate it and seeing any gc posts when trans ppl are mentioned the replies make me wanna do bad things

And then they act like the world is ending and you are delusional if you call them a weirdo

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Aint

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Ailed [#20]

And then they act like the world is ending and you are delusional if you call them a weirdo

avg vlr user when they see one trans person : bjud9fi0jsjnoduisboidps GRRR

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melon_fan
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CristanchOx [#21]

Aint

2 twitter links and 3 sentences

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UrCringe
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I wonder why no one is seriously trying to discredit her arguments, the only thing people resort to is insults, kinda pathetic, no real discourse

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babysasuke
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autumnly [#22]

avg vlr user when they see one trans person : bjud9fi0jsjnoduisboidps GRRR

bjud9fi0jsjnoduisboidps GRRR

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the trans women play better ?
case closed

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UrCringe [#24]

I wonder why no one is seriously trying to discredit her arguments, the only thing people resort to is insults, kinda pathetic, no real discourse

there is literally 0 reason sex assigned at birth has any effect on the ability of someone to play video games lmfao and the reason trans women are very prevalent in gc is because we are not accepted in a lot of esports or places so finding places where we are we tend to group up its a common phenomenon in the lgbtq+ community with safe spaces

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UrCringe [#24]

I wonder why no one is seriously trying to discredit her arguments, the only thing people resort to is insults, kinda pathetic, no real discourse

when the argument is as baseless and poorly thought out as this one then there is no need to form any sort of response, as your response would literally have to be re-educating her on every aspect of women in gaming

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LimiNaL [#19]

Why so pressed about this

Bruh if this isnt something to be pressed about what is? She is actively trying to cause fights and spread hate against trans people

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B1itz
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UrCringe [#24]

I wonder why no one is seriously trying to discredit her arguments, the only thing people resort to is insults, kinda pathetic, no real discourse

Its so dumb and poorly thought out, obviously trans femmes are gonna be more active in video game spaces. Most trans people hang out online because its the best place to find a community that wont hate them so naturally they play a lot of video games. Also since they were AMAB they were more likely to play video games when younger because of social stuff.

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B1itz [#29]

Bruh if this isnt something to be pressed about what is? She is actively trying to cause fights and spread hate against trans people

I meant why is she so pressed over trans people playing in gc and also why her opposition is even giving her any attention if it’s all nonsense

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Cheasle2 [#26]

the trans women play better ?
case closed

You actually have to be braindead to believe that

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LimiNaL [#31]

I meant why is she so pressed over trans people playing in gc and also why her opposition is even giving her any attention if it’s all nonsense

oh my bad yeah that's a good question. The answer to your second question is just that people like to argue, it makes them feel smarter

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She has not taken into account the femboyification powers of web developing or just internet dwelling.
Quite literally most torrent makers, web developers, Code writers, in summary clinically online mfs are trans.
I don’t know why this happens, but it makes sense that a mf that used to be a nerdy man, will have betterresults in online esports.
This isn’t a negative comment, it’s just that a lot of people seem to forget that the internet today houses a lot of trans mfs, which means you see more trans mfs on-line than IRL.
Its like Brazilians and Futbol
Or Canadians and hockey

There are more of them in this specific zone of life, which leads to higher percentages in the overall scene even though their community is not a high percentage of the total populace

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B1itz [#30]

Its so dumb and poorly thought out, obviously trans femmes are gonna be more active in video game spaces. Most trans people hang out online because its the best place to find a community that wont hate them so naturally they play a lot of video games. Also since they were AMAB they were more likely to play video games when younger because of social stuff.

it doesnt make sense to me how someone with a working brain can come to this conclusion, like you can ask any question and it just makes it fall apart.

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ortuh [#35]

it doesnt make sense to me how someone with a working brain can come to this conclusion, like you can ask any question and it just makes it fall apart.

Humans are incredible at rationalizing things, in her brain trans people are just evil and trying to exploit women for their own gain so she sees these numbers and just assumes its more proof that trans people are evil

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B1itz [#33]

oh my bad yeah that's a good question. The answer to your second question is just that people like to argue, it makes them feel smarter

It’s such a waste of time for everyone involved. I’ve seen like 10 forum posts about this person on VLR and it’s all just screaming and crying over random ass text there is nothing gained from all this

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EWW_EU_EWHO
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autumnly [#27]

there is literally 0 reason sex assigned at birth has any effect on the ability of someone to play video games lmfao and the reason trans women are very prevalent in gc is because we are not accepted in a lot of esports or places so finding places where we are we tend to group up its a common phenomenon in the lgbtq+ community with safe spaces

simple research would debunk your myth that sex assigned at birth has no affect... so many trans women coming out and saying gc isnt inclusive should debunk your second statement.

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Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan [#34]

She has not taken into account the femboyification powers of web developing or just internet dwelling.
Quite literally most torrent makers, web developers, Code writers, in summary clinically online mfs are trans.
I don’t know why this happens, but it makes sense that a mf that used to be a nerdy man, will have betterresults in online esports.
This isn’t a negative comment, it’s just that a lot of people seem to forget that the internet today houses a lot of trans mfs, which means you see more trans mfs on-line than IRL.
Its like Brazilians and Futbol
Or Canadians and hockey

There are more of them in this specific zone of life, which leads to higher percentages in the overall scene even though their community is not a high percentage of the total populace

yea when irl we just get like assaulted and shit if we go outside sometimes we tend to stay inside and play video games as an escape

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EWW_EU_EWHO [#38]

simple research would debunk your myth that sex assigned at birth has no affect... so many trans women coming out and saying gc isnt inclusive should debunk your second statement.

its more inclusivwe than most online communities by far, stll has a way to go as shown by this post lmfao

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need some better replies to her tweet instead of some 9 year old saying "cry more shitty" or "shut up"

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B1itz [#36]

Humans are incredible at rationalizing things, in her brain trans people are just evil and trying to exploit women for their own gain so she sees these numbers and just assumes its more proof that trans people are evil

thats your conclusion of what she is doing.. it could also be interpreted as her fighting for cis woman rights and the fact that biological and social advantages are with trans woman, its not fair on cis woman

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Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan [#34]

She has not taken into account the femboyification powers of web developing or just internet dwelling.
Quite literally most torrent makers, web developers, Code writers, in summary clinically online mfs are trans.
I don’t know why this happens, but it makes sense that a mf that used to be a nerdy man, will have betterresults in online esports.
This isn’t a negative comment, it’s just that a lot of people seem to forget that the internet today houses a lot of trans mfs, which means you see more trans mfs on-line than IRL.
Its like Brazilians and Futbol
Or Canadians and hockey

There are more of them in this specific zone of life, which leads to higher percentages in the overall scene even though their community is not a high percentage of the total populace

"quite literally" then states the most inaccurate piece of information ever

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B1itz [#32]

You actually have to be braindead to believe that

cheasle got dropped on his head as a child don't sweat it

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EWW_EU_EWHO [#42]

thats your conclusion of what she is doing.. it could also be interpreted as her fighting for cis woman rights and the fact that biological and social advantages are with trans woman, its not fair on cis woman

aintnoway bro said trans women have social advantages..........

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melon_fan [#23]

2 twitter links and 3 sentences

More than 5 words 🥱

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brobeans [#43]

"quite literally" then states the most inaccurate piece of information ever

i agree it is higher in the online community, but it is still < 1%

#48
LimiNaL
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autumnly [#45]

aintnoway bro said trans women have social advantages..........

I think he said the opposite of that

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LimiNaL [#48]

I think he said the opposite of that

no he said social advantages are with trans women, which is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever said edit: yea im dumb i said wrong but like he said a stupid still

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brobeans [#47]

i agree it is higher in the online community, but it is still < 1%

i mean yes but we are in the nerdiest of the nerds community in pro val esports

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no he said social advantages are with trans women, which is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever said edit: yea im dumb i said wrong but like he said a stupid still

I’m so confused what you are saying? yes he said trans women have social advantages. But you said

aintnoway bro said cis women have social advantages

which he didn’t say?

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EWW_EU_EWHO [#42]

thats your conclusion of what she is doing.. it could also be interpreted as her fighting for cis woman rights and the fact that biological and social advantages are with trans woman, its not fair on cis woman

bruh what, please think that statement through, a cis woman right to what? No cis women are complaining about this, everyone in the GC scene overwhelmingly supports trans people being there. Trans women have no advantage thats such a dumb statement, you dont actually believe that you just want to justify transphobia

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LimiNaL [#51]

I’m so confused what you are saying? yes he said trans women have social advantages. But you said

aintnoway bro said cis women have social advantages

which he didn’t say?

i said cis instead of trans on acident, edited it it my b

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autumnly [#53]

i said cis instead of trans on acident, edited it it my b

Ok 👍

#55
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no he said social advantages are with trans women, which is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever said edit: yea im dumb i said wrong but like he said a stupid still

video games are socially associated with men/boys like playing with dolls is associated with girls. considering most trans woman are considered boys until their transition, playing video games is socially accepted and encouraged for them while cis woman face discrimination including sexist remarks in game. trans woman dont really face any discrimination until they become public figures as they go pro as no one really knows their identity online.

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brobeans [#41]

need some better replies to her tweet instead of some 9 year old saying "cry more shitty" or "shut up"

there are but she just ignores everyone and keeps tweetting shit
ppl already gave up trying to actually having a conversation with her and i dont blame them lol

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B1itz [#52]

bruh what, please think that statement through, a cis woman right to what? No cis women are complaining about this, everyone in the GC scene overwhelmingly supports trans people being there. Trans women have no advantage thats such a dumb statement, you dont actually believe that you just want to justify transphobia

what choice do they have? as if taking a stance would not end their career and they will be labeled as transphobic with no discussion on the merits and demerits of the topic they are trying to talk about. classic stifling of freedom of speech

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EWW_EU_EWHO [#55]

video games are socially associated with men/boys like playing with dolls is associated with girls. considering most trans woman are considered boys until their transition, playing video games is socially accepted and encouraged for them while cis woman face discrimination including sexist remarks in game. trans woman dont really face any discrimination until they become public figures as they go pro as no one really knows their identity online.

"trans women dont really face any discrimination" is crazy

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EWW_EU_EWHO
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ortuh [#58]

"trans women dont really face any discrimination" is crazy

ur reading comprehension is crazy

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EWW_EU_EWHO [#55]

video games are socially associated with men/boys like playing with dolls is associated with girls. considering most trans woman are considered boys until their transition, playing video games is socially accepted and encouraged for them while cis woman face discrimination including sexist remarks in game. trans woman dont really face any discrimination until they become public figures as they go pro as no one really knows their identity online.

what the actual fuck, you seriously think trans people dont face discrimination in video games?? Do you know how many slurs I have been call for having a more feminine voice? Do you know how many of my games have been thrown by shitty teammates just because I use the trans pride banner? Do you know how many fewer opportunities I get to compete on teams due to shitty transphobes not letting me play on their team? Cis women totally face discrimination in video games probably just as much as trans people but it isn't anymore. Transphobia is rooted in misogyny.

BUT EITHER WAY WHY DOES THIS MATTER? I really dont understand your point here at all

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EWW_EU_EWHO [#57]

what choice do they have? as if taking a stance would not end their career and they will be labeled as transphobic with no discussion on the merits and demerits of the topic they are trying to talk about. classic stifling of freedom of speech

Actually a delusional and out-of-touch take. If this was why no one was "speaking out against trans women" then all the women in the scene wouldn't actively speak out FOR trans women, every woman I know and have met in the scene are avid supporter of it. Something else you seem to not understand is that not everyone is tier 1 play, there are lower-level players who would risk nothing by speaking out but none either do. The amount of women who are transphobic in general is drastically lower than the amount of men who are. You are so fucking dramatic, what reason would cis women have to "call out" trans women anyway? Where are you coming from?

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wait vlr is woke wtf? sorry but you are braindead if you think guys playing against women is OK

#63
babysasuke
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seffcurry [#62]

wait vlr is woke wtf? sorry but you are braindead if you think guys playing against women is OK

ok but meL clears fraudgestsu?

explain that one.

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seffcurry [#62]

wait vlr is woke wtf? sorry but you are braindead if you think guys playing against women is OK

biggest difference between CS and Val is the community ngl

#65
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brobeans [#41]

need some better replies to her tweet instead of some 9 year old saying "cry more shitty" or "shut up"

what even is the point of this tweet

i looked up her other tweets and she spitting some facts here and there

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babysasuke [#63]

ok but meL clears fraudgestsu?

explain that one.

at washing dishes?

#67
babysasuke
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seffcurry [#66]

at washing dishes?

very cool thing to say! I'm sure everyone is gonna get a kick out of that one!

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B1itz [#61]

Actually a delusional and out-of-touch take. If this was why no one was "speaking out against trans women" then all the women in the scene wouldn't actively speak out FOR trans women, every woman I know and have met in the scene are avid supporter of it. Something else you seem to not understand is that not everyone is tier 1 play, there are lower-level players who would risk nothing by speaking out but none either do. The amount of women who are transphobic in general is drastically lower than the amount of men who are. You are so fucking dramatic, what reason would cis women have to "call out" trans women anyway? Where are you coming from?

look at your and others response to the tweet she made using stats and tell me why would anyone at any level of the game would risk losing their careers over it. there is no platform to discuss or debate, just jumping to name calling. classic stifling of freedom of speech and then wondering why no one is speaking.. some men with a spine talk because they have nothing at stake except being called a transphobe.

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how can anyone take a conclusion drawn using data from a sample size of 10 seriously

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B1itz [#60]

what the actual fuck, you seriously think trans people dont face discrimination in video games?? Do you know how many slurs I have been call for having a more feminine voice? Do you know how many of my games have been thrown by shitty teammates just because I use the trans pride banner? Do you know how many fewer opportunities I get to compete on teams due to shitty transphobes not letting me play on their team? Cis women totally face discrimination in video games probably just as much as trans people but it isn't anymore. Transphobia is rooted in misogyny.

BUT EITHER WAY WHY DOES THIS MATTER? I really dont understand your point here at all

improve your reading comprehension, i've clearly stated the social disadvantage faced by cis woman which trans dont until they transition which puts them ahead. not to mention the biological advantages proven by research. GC isnt fair to cis-woman but they cant raise their voice because it is stifled

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seffcurry [#66]

at washing dishes?

Blud thinks he did something there

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LimiNaL [#37]

It’s such a waste of time for everyone involved. I’ve seen like 10 forum posts about this person on VLR and it’s all just screaming and crying over random ass text there is nothing gained from all this

from what i’ve read the point she is trying to prove is Males are better at the game. So because of this trans females will have a “unfair” advantage, same argument with real sports except those have actual backing. She’s kinda just going off the fact of most female teams have a trans player or win with one, on top of this encouraging males to compete in female tournaments to further prove the point.

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i respect the idea although I fail to see what reason she's providing
anyways its an opinion

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EWW_EU_EWHO [#68]

look at your and others response to the tweet she made using stats and tell me why would anyone at any level of the game would risk losing their careers over it. there is no platform to discuss or debate, just jumping to name calling. classic stifling of freedom of speech and then wondering why no one is speaking.. some men with a spine talk because they have nothing at stake except being called a transphobe.

Thats a great question actually, can you explain why anyone would be against trans women playing in game changers? You have still yet to actually explain why, why would someone speak out against it? Do you really think this women is actually arguing this in good faith and isnt just trying to spread transphobia? She is advocating for a group of people who never asked for her help and have actually asked her to do the exact opposite

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Blud thinks he did something there

i will declare myself as a woman will sneak in ur mom's locker room. don't you dare stop me bigot <3

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blazennn [#72]

from what i’ve read the point she is trying to prove is Males are better at the game. So because of this trans females will have a “unfair” advantage, same argument with real sports except those have actual backing. She’s kinda just going off the fact of most female teams have a trans player or win with one, on top of this encouraging males to compete in female tournaments to further prove the point.

Could we prove the point the other way by putting me on a Game Changers team and letting the whole world watch me get BTFO

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seffcurry [#75]

i will declare myself as a woman will sneak in ur mom's locker room. don't you dare stop me bigot <3

Blud thinks he did something there

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babysasuke [#76]

Could we prove the point the other way by putting me on a Game Changers team and letting the whole world watch me get BTFO

getting my contacts in line

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EWW_EU_EWHO
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B1itz [#74]

Thats a great question actually, can you explain why anyone would be against trans women playing in game changers? You have still yet to actually explain why, why would someone speak out against it? Do you really think this women is actually arguing this in good faith and isnt just trying to spread transphobia? She is advocating for a group of people who never asked for her help and have actually asked her to do the exact opposite

you will understand the answer once you know its not about trans woman. just like raising voice for woman in general in any space doesnt mean those people hate men, raising voice for cis woman doesnt mean one hates trans woman. as i've already mentioned cis woman have further disadvantages that trans woman dont and a combined GC scene does nothing to address them.

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I don’t understand what she is asking?

Does she think 20% of the top players being trans is ludicrous and some sort of conspiracy?

Wait till she sees the stats for NA.

People need to get over the fact that GC isn’t only for people born with two X chromosomes. It’s not even a woman’s only league. It’s for woman AND inclusive groups.

The question “are mean better at video games than women” isn’t relevant to game changers, and the answer is obvious.

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LouBag [#80]

I don’t understand what she is asking?

Does she think 20% of the top players being trans is ludicrous and some sort of conspiracy?

Wait till she sees the stats for NA.

People need to get over the fact that GC isn’t only for people born with two X chromosomes. It’s not even a woman’s only league. It’s for woman AND inclusive groups.

The question “are mean better at video games than women” isn’t relevant to game changers, and the answer is obvious.

everyone knows what point she is making. it's been made a hundred times

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