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TSM Roster

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#1
SamTheGreat47

TSM on paper, has one of the most talented rosters out there, yet somehow when game time comes they have been struggling.
Wardell- probably still the best op'er in NA if not the world
Subroza- one of the best riflers in the entire game
Drone- pure skill in that mans(#goated)
Hazed- great personality, probably great igl skills, and he frags out when he's needed
Brax/Bang- both really good just haven't had too many chances to prove themselves
IDK what it is that TSM needs to start winning but that roster is goated in of itself

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Blinded
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If TSM doesn't qualify for Berlin can they still qualify for champions or no?

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dignityx3
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drop hazed bruh

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Blinded [#2]

If TSM doesn't qualify for Berlin can they still qualify for champions or no?

they probably can, lets say they get like 4th in the playoffs, they still get a decent but small amount of points that allows them to participate in the LCQ

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ranker11
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Blinded [#2]

If TSM doesn't qualify for Berlin can they still qualify for champions or no?

Most probably no because they don't have any points for LCQ yet.

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SharubuNguvu
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you are definitley overating drone. He hasn't looked like a god since he stopped playing phoenix in first strike.
I still think the roster should be able to get top 5

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SharubuNguvu
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dignityx3 [#4]

they probably can, lets say they get like 4th in the playoffs, they still get a decent but small amount of points that allows them to participate in the LCQ

if they get 4th they get maybe 50 points so they need to pray the other teams with 50ish points miss the challenger finals

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America

#8
Sheesher69
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Drone overrated.
Hazed underrated.
Subroza too inconsistent.
Wardell needs to flex. They can't rely on him too much. But he is definitely the best OP in NA.

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Sheesher69 [#8]

Drone overrated.
Hazed underrated.
Subroza too inconsistent.
Wardell needs to flex. They can't rely on him too much. But he is definitely the best OP in NA.

Yeah wardell is picking up raze and sage

#10
kindereggmodel
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drone-needs sova
roza-needs lurk.
Drone is amazing on sova as he can play off the kit rlly well. And roza's lurk, top 5 acs in vct 1 whilst losing matches.. just proves how much work he can get done

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shadowzin272
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Blinded [#2]

If TSM doesn't qualify for Berlin can they still qualify for champions or no?

no
they cannot

#12
SamTheGreat47
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If TSM doesn't qualify for Berlin can they still qualify for champions or no?

yeah they can still win the last chance qualifier for NA

#13
GetsystheGr8
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Sheesher69 [#8]

Drone overrated.
Hazed underrated.
Subroza too inconsistent.
Wardell needs to flex. They can't rely on him too much. But he is definitely the best OP in NA.

Subroza just ego peaked angles which made him inconsistent... but now I can see a difference in his ranked gameplay... much more consistent overall

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Crayzid
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GetsystheGr8 [#13]

Subroza just ego peaked angles which made him inconsistent... but now I can see a difference in his ranked gameplay... much more consistent overall

yeah... an example is the zacharee deagle ace clutch in the myth fight club. he didnt know subroza was there but roza peeked

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GetsystheGr8
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Crayzid [#14]

yeah... an example is the zacharee deagle ace clutch in the myth fight club. he didnt know subroza was there but roza peeked

Yea but that's obviously for content I don't think he really cared ngl

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WitLitning
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GetsystheGr8 [#15]

Yea but that's obviously for content I don't think he really cared ngl

yeah we’re more worried ab careless ranked/content plays leaking over into pro play…

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SharubuNguvu [#6]

you are definitley overating drone. He hasn't looked like a god since he stopped playing phoenix in first strike.
I still think the roster should be able to get top 5

With drone he was only good on phoniex, now that he isnt play duelist what happens

#18
NU_Peri
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GetsystheGr8 [#13]

Subroza just ego peaked angles which made him inconsistent... but now I can see a difference in his ranked gameplay... much more consistent overall

I think he will pikc up skye more which will benefit him a lot more

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Zaynio
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kindereggmodel [#10]

drone-needs sova
roza-needs lurk.
Drone is amazing on sova as he can play off the kit rlly well. And roza's lurk, top 5 acs in vct 1 whilst losing matches.. just proves how much work he can get done

I mean, drone was once considered the best phoenix in the world so I wouldn't necesarily just label him as "needs sova."

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SharubuNguvu [#7]

if they get 4th they get maybe 50 points so they need to pray the other teams with 50ish points miss the challenger finals

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America

challenger 3 points havent been anounced

#21
PrTsty
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hazed isnt a great igl in comparison to the others

#22
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Zaynio [#19]

I mean, drone was once considered the best phoenix in the world so I wouldn't necesarily just label him as "needs sova."

def not the best in the world.

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atmajitxD
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PrTsty [#21]

hazed isnt a great igl in comparison to the others

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#24
PotatoCh1ps
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TSM is holding back Roza imo.

#25
scubascuba11
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Do you guys think they should bring back double/triple duelist?

I thought just having wardell on duelist was difficult to entry when he is OPing

#26
5pw423yjmv2
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maybe hot take but this roster just isn't it, even though they might be great individual players they just don't seem to work together

#27
cloud9bluefan
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Subroza way too inconsistent

Drone not as good as people say

Wardell only Jett but I heard he plays raze and sage now so that’s not a problem anymore

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wanted [#22]

def not the best in the world.

lol yeah he was top3 NA for a while but never more than that. i think it was him, food, and ANDROID.

#29
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scubascuba11 [#25]

Do you guys think they should bring back double/triple duelist?

I thought just having wardell on duelist was difficult to entry when he is OPing

definitely not with the current meta. two duelists is pushing it on most maps. single duelist seems to be meta now with astra and viper.

#30
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i have a question, do u guys know where bang lives, cause he was playign duo with his friend ban, and deosnt seem like hes going to the TSM facility, unless hes not trying to leak that he joined TSM, which we all k he is.

#31
Netero
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yall are way too obsessed with TSM

#32
beb0p
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Netero [#31]

yall are way too obsessed with TSM

hater found

#33
WitLitning
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Netero [#31]

yall are way too obsessed with TSM

yeah i like talking ab the team w other fans, it’s no fun consuming the sport by yourself.

#34
Zaynio
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Netero [#31]

yall are way too obsessed with TSM

I mean, fans are hopeful for TSM's revival considering they were once the best team in NA. Although that was a long time ago, its still possible to reclaim its former glory.

#35
deadSQUAD
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yes tsm definitely has talented rosters, the only reason why they only had small chance to play in champions is bcs other NA teams had more talented players.

#36
SharubuNguvu
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PrTsty [#20]

challenger 3 points havent been anounced

it will be probably be around 40-50 because the split will be similar to stage 2 point distribution

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SharubuNguvu [#36]

it will be probably be around 40-50 because the split will be similar to stage 2 point distribution

ye i think it will be 50 tbh

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