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Top 5 in EU vs NA

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#1
thebrownlegend

TOP 5 (VLR.GG)

EU

  • TL
  • FN
  • FPX
  • ACE
  • Gambit

NA

  • SEN
  • V1
  • Faze
  • 100T
  • NV

EU feels stronger but why is there no consistent top 1 or top 2 team

#2
Elol
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get rid of tl and replace it with g2 and then there is the best 5 EU teams.

#3
cryyBAE
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Bigger competition ... Sentinels is far away from the other teams in NA. Sentinels make NA looks better than they really are ...

#4
deww
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As the competition in Europe is much more than the competition in NA. For instance FPX could win aganist FNC but in an another day FNC could win aganist FPX as well. Thats because there's no big gap between the level of the teams, unlike the gap between V1 and SEN

#5
BEbow
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C9 Blue instead of Faze

#6
deww
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deww [#4]

As the competition in Europe is much more than the competition in NA. For instance FPX could win aganist FNC but in an another day FNC could win aganist FPX as well. Thats because there's no big gap between the level of the teams, unlike the gap between V1 and SEN

Also, players in Europe are less experienced than most of the players from NA

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TinglyPiano
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deww [#4]

As the competition in Europe is much more than the competition in NA. For instance FPX could win aganist FNC but in an another day FNC could win aganist FPX as well. Thats because there's no big gap between the level of the teams, unlike the gap between V1 and SEN

I mean if V1 can also beat FNC/TL, and vice versa.

the gap of SEN to 2nd best NA team is huge, but the 2nd best NA team can have a good fight against the top 5 NA team
Basically my point is if u exclude SEN, top 5 NA is as competiitve as top 5 EU

#8
deww
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TinglyPiano [#7]

I mean if V1 can also beat FNC/TL, and vice versa.

the gap of SEN to 2nd best NA team is huge, but the 2nd best NA team can have a good fight against the top 5 NA team
Basically my point is if u exclude SEN, top 5 NA is as competiitve as top 5 EU

Yeah, you are right. However, i still think that top 5 EU teams are way better than top 5 NA teams except SEN. And TL is still worst well-known team in EU

#9
plas
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vlr rankings arent it, change faze for c9

#10
sins
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i hope there is lower bracket for chall 3 eu or imma start throwing some hands

#11
DiegoMocu
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Acend could be top 1 tbh, and G2 new roster will probably dominate EU so bad

#12
EU_quiet
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Remove Faze add C9b

#13
zac
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Crazy to not have C9 Blue over any of the teams besides SEN

#14
thebrownlegend
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boys this is just vlr's rankings

#15
ChowChow
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Vlr ranking is based on circuit points. It's the same rank & point where valorant will choose teams in each region to participate in VCT Champions.
Teams get point by play/get high rank in the recent tourney every season.
So this is legit ranking, but not valid for recent changes. Especially in EU where rooster changed so much.
Hate it or love it, this is the standing.

#16
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Elol [#2]

get rid of tl and replace it with g2 and then there is the best 5 EU teams.

Really , G2 hasnt performed

#17
atmajitxD
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imagine dominating challenger 2 and coming 3rd in challenger finals and not coming in top 5 kekw

#18
thebrownlegend
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atmajitxD [#17]

imagine dominating challenger 2 and coming 3rd in challenger finals and not coming in top 5 kekw

who?

#19
atmajitxD
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in some other world c9 could have closed out haven and won against sen 2-0

#20
thebrownlegend
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Mrityunjay [#16]

Really , G2 hasnt performed

g2 maybe soon, def not rn haha

#21
atmajitxD
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thebrownlegend [#18]

who?

bruh c9

#22
thebrownlegend
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atmajitxD [#19]

in some other world c9 could have closed out haven and won against sen 2-0

i wish. keep poiz on jett only. guys too cracked

#23
Mrityunjay
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thebrownlegend [#22]

i wish. keep poiz on jett only. guys too cracked

C9 best firepower in NA , if these guys have gelled up with Xeta and Floppy , there;s no way that they dont go berlin

#24
thebrownlegend
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Mrityunjay [#23]

C9 best firepower in NA , if these guys have gelled up with Xeta and Floppy , there;s no way that they dont go berlin

c9, v1, sen are looking solid

keep an eye on imt, 100t, faze, and tsm too

#25
idkmate99
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thebrownlegend [#24]

c9, v1, sen are looking solid

keep an eye on imt, 100t, faze, and tsm too

nah, imt and faze are going to lag behind 100%, and I'm a faze fan. 100t is up there, but..... I don't see them doing anything to get better and remotely have a chance to catch up to top 5 NA.

As far as TSM goes, they benched Brax. If they benched him, Something odd must be going on in this org, and I don't think it's a good thing.

#26
DumboVAL
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Hey! Since you copied the VLR stats for us in this very useful thread, i have copied a Pancake recipe for you as well. Hope you will enjoy it!

STEP 1
Put 100g plain flour, 2 large eggs, 300ml milk, 1 tbsp sunflower or vegetable oil and a pinch of salt into a bowl or large jug, then whisk to a smooth batter.

STEP 2
Set aside for 30 mins to rest if you have time, or start cooking straight away.

STEP 3
Set a medium frying pan or crêpe pan over a medium heat and carefully wipe it with some oiled kitchen paper.

STEP 4
When hot, cook your pancakes for 1 min on each side until golden, keeping them warm in a low oven as you go.

STEP 5
Serve with lemon wedges and caster sugar, or your favourite filling. Once cold, you can layer the pancakes between baking parchment, then wrap in cling film and freeze for up to 2 months.

#27
Shanty
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cryyBAE [#3]

Bigger competition ... Sentinels is far away from the other teams in NA. Sentinels make NA looks better than they really are ...

While I think EU has a better Top 5. I think the distance between SEN and the rest is smaller than what a lot of people here think. SEN is no where near unbeatable against NA teams. Also that top 5 above is missing C9, which has a very good chance after the showing they did in challengers when the team had been together for like a week to take the fight to SEN and take the number 1 NA spot in a couple months C9 in challengers beat SEN on Split 13-1. 100T, Faze, NV, C9 can beat SEN on any given day without much surprise. Yeah SEN would be favoured, but not like massively. 100T 13-3 SEN on Icebox before going down 2-1.

If C9 lives up to expectations. The Top 5 of NA could honestly be scary with multiple teams being in the fight for number 1. Like a world exists where SEN fails to make it to Berlin and it's not some crazy thing. V1 with Whippie is also just straight up a better team that went to Iceland. If teams like T1 and TSM finally get some sense of direction, they are a team that could break into the top 5, as the talent is there. That one might be asking too much with recent events going on lol.

Just wanted to say this as it seems a large portion of this site thinks SEN is some king of NA, and that it's SEN a large gap, then the rest of NA. And while they certainly are the current best, they can be beat. Even as a SEN fan, this Challengers scares me. It wouldn't really matter for Champions as they're qualified. But some combination of 100T, C9, Envy, Faze, V1 or some underdog like what V1 was can take up those Berlin spots and it's a very real possibility.

V1 is the team I literally cheer for, and while I think they deserve their number 2 spot when they have Whippie. I don't expect them to hold onto the Top 3 with the teams that stayed behind having something to prove. But I guess it's all talk until we see which teams go to Berlin from NA.

#28
Tira
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Elol [#2]

get rid of tl and replace it with g2 and then there is the best 5 EU teams.

Idk with new roster but they haven't perform well for sometimes now after first strike

#29
bleghfarec
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DumboVAL [#26]

Hey! Since you copied the VLR stats for us in this very useful thread, i have copied a Pancake recipe for you as well. Hope you will enjoy it!

STEP 1
Put 100g plain flour, 2 large eggs, 300ml milk, 1 tbsp sunflower or vegetable oil and a pinch of salt into a bowl or large jug, then whisk to a smooth batter.

STEP 2
Set aside for 30 mins to rest if you have time, or start cooking straight away.

STEP 3
Set a medium frying pan or crêpe pan over a medium heat and carefully wipe it with some oiled kitchen paper.

STEP 4
When hot, cook your pancakes for 1 min on each side until golden, keeping them warm in a low oven as you go.

STEP 5
Serve with lemon wedges and caster sugar, or your favourite filling. Once cold, you can layer the pancakes between baking parchment, then wrap in cling film and freeze for up to 2 months.

who eats pancakes with lemon wedges what the hell

#30
Elol
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Tira [#28]

Idk with new roster but they haven't perform well for sometimes now after first strike

perform well?. they didnt play a single game since qualifier, and the new roaster first game is today i think the team is pretty solid will be on top 5 for sure. i dont know how i got too many downvote lol.

#31
enigma
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DumboVAL [#26]

Hey! Since you copied the VLR stats for us in this very useful thread, i have copied a Pancake recipe for you as well. Hope you will enjoy it!

STEP 1
Put 100g plain flour, 2 large eggs, 300ml milk, 1 tbsp sunflower or vegetable oil and a pinch of salt into a bowl or large jug, then whisk to a smooth batter.

STEP 2
Set aside for 30 mins to rest if you have time, or start cooking straight away.

STEP 3
Set a medium frying pan or crêpe pan over a medium heat and carefully wipe it with some oiled kitchen paper.

STEP 4
When hot, cook your pancakes for 1 min on each side until golden, keeping them warm in a low oven as you go.

STEP 5
Serve with lemon wedges and caster sugar, or your favourite filling. Once cold, you can layer the pancakes between baking parchment, then wrap in cling film and freeze for up to 2 months.

who the hell freezes pancakes

#32
SNwy
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EU>NA

#33
thebrownlegend
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enigma [#31]

who the hell freezes pancakes

thank u for ur recipe

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