gue rasa si frengky dkk ini pengen kekeh buat SG di dis biar Indo auto emas, dan cair lah tu bonus dari presiden. kalo emg drama ini semua soal fairness sama sportifitas, tawaran buat re roll round nya dari 5-5 udah diambil. PBESI, what a greedy fucking boomers they are
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dont let this fact left unknown, pls spread this fact.
https://twitter.com/NethenoobVAL/status/1656495765303472129?t=Rs6AChvTMX6zvPwSGSuYkQ&s=19
Beyonder2 [#2]apakah saya harus kaget dengan fakta ini🤯😱
gaharus si, but just to make sure that players got nothing to do with all of this clown fiesta. gue rasa mereka juga pasti masih mau main dan gapengen ff
Kaleidoscope80 [#7]Iyalah udh modal banyak ke Korea, kata Pak Frengky kan dia yg biayain 70%nya
liat dmn?
Clayy [#8]liat dmn?
di postingan IG VEM yg pertama kali Indonesia kalah di 1st match, Pak Frengky yg ngomen "kok kayaknya seneng ya bangsanya kalah" disana beliau adu komen sama netizen
Marcusgeez [#6]gaharus si, but just to make sure that players got nothing to do with all of this clown fiesta. gue rasa mereka juga pasti masih mau main dan gapengen ff
yeah, I also feel sorry for the players. I've known that this kind of drama was played by PBESI.🤮
KitsuneVLR [#14]padahal sebelum nya dia bilang demi martabat harga diri bangsa indonesia milih wo ga lanjutin main, tapi malah ngelobi jatuh nya kaya ngemis medali emas
that was like the biggest bullshit ever
StrafingGoatWoweeClap [#3]dont let this fact left unknown, pls spread this fact.
https://twitter.com/NethenoobVAL/status/1656495765303472129?t=Rs6AChvTMX6zvPwSGSuYkQ&s=19
bukannya gw gamau percaya sih, tapi kalau sourcenya nethenoob skip deh
Vixennn [#19]Coy mereka udah legowo silver tapi panitianya udah kena hajar duluan ama netizen. Skandal SEAG lagi banyak2nya lgsg di up ama netizen sini, mau gamau mereka yg harus nyenengin Indo makanya join gold. Bisa aja yg lobi buat let it go biar gak diungkit2 lg pihak panitia.
iya yang seneng sih pasti netizen" yang ga ngikutin komunitas valo dan org" yg punya kepentingan, buat komunitas valo indo ini jd moment yg cukup memalukan, bener" cara yg ga layak/fair buat dapetin medalinya :(
udination [#21]iya yang seneng sih pasti netizen" yang ga ngikutin komunitas valo dan org" yg punya kepentingan, buat komunitas valo indo ini jd moment yg cukup memalukan, bener" cara yg ga layak/fair buat dapetin medalinya :(
yg gak layak itu yg bug abuser bro, jangan dibolak balik
udination [#23]tau, sg emang salah trus panitianya ga tegas dengan rulebook yg jelas udh ada, gw kecewa sama keputusan yang diambil aja.
gw cuman pengen liat mereka main di final sampe akhir dengan fair aja, dan gw yakin mereka sebagai player jg pengen itu :((
DELUSIONAL_POTTER_FAN [#20]whats a bahasa
it's indonesian, I hate fuckers who say "bahasa" when it's actually just indonesian
GfK [#22]yg gak layak itu yg bug abuser bro, jangan dibolak balik
yang salah lebih ke panitianya lah, klo di VCT setiap tim biasanya ngasih unjuk ke panitia sebelum turnamen klo mereka mau ngepake lineup/lineup camera atau apapun itu yg agak mencurigakan yang bisa dianggap "bug", harusnya mereka gitu juga, jadi panitinya bisa tahu mana yg bug mana yg enggak jadi diawal sebelum main udh bisa tau
Vixennn [#19]Coy mereka udah legowo silver tapi panitianya udah kena hajar duluan ama netizen. Skandal SEAG lagi banyak2nya lgsg di up ama netizen sini, mau gamau mereka yg harus nyenengin Indo makanya join gold. Bisa aja yg lobi buat let it go biar gak diungkit2 lg pihak panitia.
gw tebak netizennya pasti yg nontonin si mansen, isinya cuma manas manasin doang kemaren
ItsMeDio [#4]Too clear
Furthermore, they had spend so much money by going to Korea kkkk
they be scrimming in North Korea fr fr
aJAYYY [#17]bukannya gw gamau percaya sih, tapi kalau sourcenya nethenoob skip deh
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss9tgc ini player yg ngalamin langsung yg cerita, tetep ga pecaya ? lol
udah paling bener valorant kaga usah ikut itu pbsi ama boomer boomernya yg ga ngerti esport nyempulng ke mari dikira kaya sport konfesional dikasi rolback round 5-5 mintanya singapur diskualifikasi kocak bener, mana netijen kita tolol2 lagi dikit2 nyerang mulu
SleepyBear [#29]https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss9tgc ini player yg ngalamin langsung yg cerita, tetep ga pecaya ? lol
udah paling bener valorant kaga usah ikut itu pbsi ama boomer boomernya yg ga ngerti esport nyempulng ke mari dikira kaya sport konfesional dikasi rolback round 5-5 mintanya singapur diskualifikasi kocak bener, mana netijen kita tolol2 lagi dikit2 nyerang mulu
oh ok I just got into this drama, this is like 100% indonesians fault wtf
we then went back to the hotel at approximately 430am and agreed to be back on stage by 8am to play from 5-5. At 8am we went back to the stage and finished setting up and by 8:50 we received news that the Indonesia team has decided to forfeit as they wanted us to be disqualified/forfeit map 2/ to uphold their national dignity, from 9am to 11am we were waiting for the medal ceremony to happen but we received another dispute that we had two final choices, either to accept the joint gold medal or be stuck in Cambodia for another week to wait for the result of the dispute as we have no other flights back to Singapore.
that shit is fucked up
"to uphold their national dignity" kkkkkkkkk
SleepyBear [#29]https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss9tgc ini player yg ngalamin langsung yg cerita, tetep ga pecaya ? lol
udah paling bener valorant kaga usah ikut itu pbsi ama boomer boomernya yg ga ngerti esport nyempulng ke mari dikira kaya sport konfesional dikasi rolback round 5-5 mintanya singapur diskualifikasi kocak bener, mana netijen kita tolol2 lagi dikit2 nyerang mulu
kayaknya yg maksa FF itu pbesi, gw liat di story pemain indo juga udah siap main. Trus dengan alesan menjaga martabat, Pbesi make FF segala, jadi yg ditangisin sama player itu bukan masalah dapet silver atau gold tapi atasan maksa buat FF
hanafuuji [#30]oh ok I just got into this drama, this is like 100% indonesians fault wtf
we then went back to the hotel at approximately 430am and agreed to be back on stage by 8am to play from 5-5. At 8am we went back to the stage and finished setting up and by 8:50 we received news that the Indonesia team has decided to forfeit as they wanted us to be disqualified/forfeit map 2/ to uphold their national dignity, from 9am to 11am we were waiting for the medal ceremony to happen but we received another dispute that we had two final choices, either to accept the joint gold medal or be stuck in Cambodia for another week to wait for the result of the dispute as we have no other flights back to Singapore.
that shit is fucked up
"to uphold their national dignity" kkkkkkkkk
kata2nya pbesi bgt kontol dignity2 bangsat malah malu2in dapet emas jalur ngemis
Marcusgeez [#32]kata2nya pbesi bgt kontol dignity2 bangsat malah malu2in dapet emas jalur ngemis
tau anjing malah malu2in ini mah wkwk
hanafuuji [#30]oh ok I just got into this drama, this is like 100% indonesians fault wtf
we then went back to the hotel at approximately 430am and agreed to be back on stage by 8am to play from 5-5. At 8am we went back to the stage and finished setting up and by 8:50 we received news that the Indonesia team has decided to forfeit as they wanted us to be disqualified/forfeit map 2/ to uphold their national dignity, from 9am to 11am we were waiting for the medal ceremony to happen but we received another dispute that we had two final choices, either to accept the joint gold medal or be stuck in Cambodia for another week to wait for the result of the dispute as we have no other flights back to Singapore.
that shit is fucked up
"to uphold their national dignity" kkkkkkkkk
but we have a new record tho, First ever win gold medal by forfeiting. We live in strange times LMAO
hanafuuji [#25]it's indonesian, I hate fuckers who say "bahasa" when it's actually just indonesian
tp jujur ya gue nulis "bahasa" di title semata-mata buat ngasi tau orang luar bukan orang indonya kalo ini threadnya pake bahasa indo wkwk
Ryukk [#31]kayaknya yg maksa FF itu pbesi, gw liat di story pemain indo juga udah siap main. Trus dengan alesan menjaga martabat, Pbesi make FF segala, jadi yg ditangisin sama player itu bukan masalah dapet silver atau gold tapi atasan maksa buat FF
Yg ada menghancur martabat wkwkkw
Fr1tZ [#13]they think they should treat e-sports like traditional sport which cheating = insta dq. so yeah, they dont know shit about esports
On the other hand, why not have that strictness in esports?
I'm no Bahasian but yeah they should stop putting words on the players mouth, to Indogs VLR user who have zero stars and only came from Son stream etc stop being shitter and yall came here in the name dignity but where's the dignity? so far yall only show how shit human being you are, what a fucking joke. nationalist are fucking retarded.
and to TMosura holy fuck man how many times do I tell you becareful with your words EVEN IF YOU TRYING BE NEUTRAL because some Indogs are incapable of processing information and can twist your words.
SleepyBear [#34]but we have a new record tho, First ever win gold medal by forfeiting. We live in strange times LMAO
bangsat, betul lagi, pengalaman unik
udination [#24]gw cuman pengen liat mereka main di final sampe akhir dengan fair aja, dan gw yakin mereka sebagai player jg pengen itu :((
sama bang we juga cuma pengen mereka main bukan FF kayak ginni
iframedeez [#40]I'm no Bahasian but yeah they should stop putting words on the players mouth, to Indogs VLR user who have zero stars and only came from Son stream etc stop being shitter and yall came here in the name dignity but where's the dignity? so far yall only show how shit human being you are, what a fucking joke. nationalist are fucking retarded.
and to TMosura holy fuck man how many times do I tell you becareful with your words EVEN IF YOU TRYING BE NEUTRAL because some Indogs are incapable of processing information and can twist your words.
More support for bug abuser
GfK [#43]More support for bug abuser
"bug" abuser KEKW.
Blame the TO not the teams bro.
Stop trying to blame SG for a bug they didn't know is not allowed.
Esports more specifically valorant esports is not like normal sports, we don't have a standardized rulebook, each region has their own set of rules (which includes which cams are allowed/not)
Ex: the camera bug is often used in NA ascension, but if you use it in europe you'll get warned immedietely. Apparently no one said anything during MYSG - thus the SG team did not know the camera was not allowed (due to poor communication of TO's of SEA games on their rulebook)
FrostTree187 [#44]"bug" abuser KEKW.
Blame the TO not the teams bro.
Stop trying to blame SG for a bug they didn't know is not allowed.
Esports more specifically valorant esports is not like normal sports, we don't have a standardized rulebook, each region has their own set of rules (which includes which cams are allowed/not)
Ex: the camera bug is often used in NA ascension, but if you use it in europe you'll get warned immedietely. Apparently no one said anything during MYSG - thus the SG team did not know the camera was not allowed (due to poor communication of TO's of SEA games on their rulebook)
nah stop blame Indo too you mf fake flager
So after reading all of this, I discovered that the main culprit is this so-called pbesi or boomer ministry of eSports. So the Indonesian president is giving out 340k usd for the eSports team that won gold. Meaning the team, including the minister, will get 34k each, which is around 7 years' worth of minimum salary in Indonesia. Instead of rollback, the boomer wanted to ensure they won gold to get some of that cash. With Indonesia's corruption history, I won't be surprised if most of the money went to the ministry pocket, which is probably why they protest so much to get that cash.
GfK [#45]nah stop blame Indo too you mf fake flager
nah indo also in the wrong for not accepting the rollback. first of all, the bug isnt listed in the rulebook https://twitter.com/STYR0N/status/1656556101964541952 yet the TO confidently tell the indo team that the camera is not allowed lol https://twitter.com/rafidndr_/status/1656337245144768512, but even if its not allowed the rulebook doesnt say anything about disqualifying a team for using a bug as far as we know, if only the singaporean team man up and tell the TO that its not even a bug according to the rulebook this could have ended differently.
so in summary:
indo team is wrong for not accepting rollback which is the most justified outcome for everyone
the TO is also wrong for saying that its a bug to the indo team while its not in the rule book
the sg team is wrong for not speaking up against the allegation, but ig there's some pressure on them idk
Prathades [#47]So after reading all of this, I discovered that the main culprit is this so-called pbesi or boomer ministry of eSports. So the Indonesian president is giving out 340k usd for the eSports team that won gold. Meaning the team, including the minister, will get 34k each, which is around 7 years' worth of minimum salary in Indonesia. Instead of rollback, the boomer wanted to ensure they won gold to get some of that cash. With Indonesia's corruption history, I won't be surprised if most of the money went to the ministry pocket, which is probably why they protest so much to get that cash.
that's the perfect way to sum it all up
Prathades [#47]So after reading all of this, I discovered that the main culprit is this so-called pbesi or boomer ministry of eSports. So the Indonesian president is giving out 340k usd for the eSports team that won gold. Meaning the team, including the minister, will get 34k each, which is around 7 years' worth of minimum salary in Indonesia. Instead of rollback, the boomer wanted to ensure they won gold to get some of that cash. With Indonesia's corruption history, I won't be surprised if most of the money went to the ministry pocket, which is probably why they protest so much to get that cash.
350k usd????????????????????? WHAATTTTTTTT
Prathades [#47]So after reading all of this, I discovered that the main culprit is this so-called pbesi or boomer ministry of eSports. So the Indonesian president is giving out 340k usd for the eSports team that won gold. Meaning the team, including the minister, will get 34k each, which is around 7 years' worth of minimum salary in Indonesia. Instead of rollback, the boomer wanted to ensure they won gold to get some of that cash. With Indonesia's corruption history, I won't be surprised if most of the money went to the ministry pocket, which is probably why they protest so much to get that cash.
Mga mukhang pera pala tong PBESI walang pinagkaiba sa Gobyerno ng Pinas
(sorry have to rant in Filipino)
sleeek [#48]nah indo also in the wrong for not accepting the rollback. first of all, the bug isnt listed in the rulebook https://twitter.com/STYR0N/status/1656556101964541952 yet the TO confidently tell the indo team that the camera is not allowed lol https://twitter.com/rafidndr_/status/1656337245144768512, but even if its not allowed the rulebook doesnt say anything about disqualifying a team for using a bug as far as we know, if only the singaporean team man up and tell the TO that its not even a bug according to the rulebook this could have ended differently.
so in summary:
indo team is wrong for not accepting rollback which is the most justified outcome for everyone
the TO is also wrong for saying that its a bug to the indo team while its not in the rule book
the sg team is wrong for not speaking up against the allegation, but ig there's some pressure on them idk
thats one side story (ofc as singaporean you believe that). indo official already forfeit and the TO change their decision to joint medal?
and about bug abuser its common bug, if theres no pinalty only rollback for that well see alot team abuse this bug. lets go bug bug together, let go suport bug abuser
GfK [#54]thats one side story (ofc as singaporean you believe that). indo official already forfeit and the TO change their decision to joint medal?
and about bug abuser its common bug, if theres no pinalty only rollback for that well see alot team abuse this bug. lets go bug bug together, let go suport bug abuser
Im not Singaporean, how is rollback not a penalty to you, you already won several rounds then you are forced to replay the rounds again, even giving a point to the enemy team, im sure the rulebook also mention what will happen if they think a bug is used on purpose repeatedly after given a warning, but the problem here is the bug isn't even on the bug list (look at the link i provided) yet the TO tell the indo team that its not allowed on a private group chat.
Do you even read what i wrote? How is a team supposed to know its not allowed if its not on the bug list provided by the TO
sleeek [#55]Im not Singaporean, how is rollback not a penalty to you, you already won several rounds then you are forced to replay the rounds again, even giving a point to the enemy team, im sure the rulebook also mention what will happen if they think a bug is used on purpose repeatedly after given a warning, but the problem here is the bug isn't even on the bug list (look at the link i provided) yet the TO tell the indo team that its not allowed on a private group chat.
Do you even read what i wrote? How is a team supposed to know its not allowed if its not on the bug list provided by the TO
no worries that guy is accusing ppl of being singaporean for the sole reason of not supporting Indo getting medal (while using the singaporean flag himself to get ppl to hate singapore more probably)
FrostTree187 [#56]no worries that guy is accusing ppl of being singaporean for the sole reason of not supporting Indo getting medal (while using the singaporean flag himself to get ppl to hate singapore more probably)
you singaporean?
sleeek [#55]Im not Singaporean, how is rollback not a penalty to you, you already won several rounds then you are forced to replay the rounds again, even giving a point to the enemy team, im sure the rulebook also mention what will happen if they think a bug is used on purpose repeatedly after given a warning, but the problem here is the bug isn't even on the bug list (look at the link i provided) yet the TO tell the indo team that its not allowed on a private group chat.
Do you even read what i wrote? How is a team supposed to know its not allowed if its not on the bug list provided by the TO
no deterrent effect if only rollback
sleeek [#60]shut up man u dont know what you are talking about and i dont care about this tier 10000 event anymore when we have the super week going on
bahasa inggrisnya kacau
FrostTree187 [#59]^
proves my point
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