The amount of shit and clowning sen is gonna get for dropping tenZ is gonna be huge
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If sen loses to C9....
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Dokka [#2]C9 good team if Sen makes it close there should be no shame in losing
it shouldnt be that close at all considering they were pretty dominant against loud and they only lost cause of their own inconsistency. If dephh is a good igl sen wont lost against C9. Sadly I dont think he is a good igl
JustHunter [#6]it shouldnt be that close at all considering they were pretty dominant against loud and they only lost cause of their own inconsistency. If dephh is a good igl sen wont lost against C9. Sadly I dont think he is a good igl
good thing your opinion means nothing, if marved says he is a good igl then i believe it
JustHunter [#6]it shouldnt be that close at all considering they were pretty dominant against loud and they only lost cause of their own inconsistency. If dephh is a good igl sen wont lost against C9. Sadly I dont think he is a good igl
C9 also took a map off Loud, Sen made it more close but C9 has been trending up consistently
They were expected to bottom feed because they brought on two no namers but right now they're on track for second seed
BoF7ooM [#8]c9 is looking dangerous. Leaf is easily the best duelist in NA rn, the honeymoon looking strong rn.
He is the best from NA rn for sure
In NA, it's aspas
juugobr_ [#12]He is the best from NA rn for sure
In NA, it's aspas
In Americas its aspas, aspas is not from NA
BoF7ooM [#13]In Americas its aspas, aspas is not from NA
Yeah i know he isnt from NA but all teams from the Americas are playing there so when u say that leaf is the best duelist in NA your sentence may be ambiguous
i also don't want to sound annoying and correct you but it's a detail
JustHunter [#6]it shouldnt be that close at all considering they were pretty dominant against loud and they only lost cause of their own inconsistency. If dephh is a good igl sen wont lost against C9. Sadly I dont think he is a good igl
You still have the thought process of C9 struggling so they can't be that good, but These mfs are good as shit and prob going to tokyo, so as long as it's close my opinion really wouldn't change.
Dokka [#2]C9 good team if Sen makes it close there should be no shame in losing
what? Every franchised team is good! If you are settling for an L even after dropping the player that won us against 100T then you might as well say GG and be happy with 7th place LMAO.
SaltyMcNulty [#17]what? Every franchised team is good! If you are settling for an L even after dropping the player that won us against 100T then you might as well say GG and be happy with 7th place LMAO.
All I'm saying is that IF they lose, which is a big if cause marved is very very good,
because C9 is a great team and has crazy skill, it wouldn't be an embarrassing or terrible loss, obviously SEN would have to address issues
For example, you wouldn't fault Giants losing to the likes of Fnatic cause well you're playing a great team, doesn't mean the showing you had was bad
Dokka [#18]All I'm saying is that IF they lose, which is a big if cause marved is very very good,
because C9 is a great team and has crazy skill, it wouldn't be an embarrassing or terrible loss, obviously SEN would have to address issues
For example, you wouldn't fault Giants losing to the likes of Fnatic cause well you're playing a great team, doesn't mean the showing you had was bad
I think giants losing to liquid is a perfect comparison
Blaxtonn [#9]good thing your opinion means nothing, if marved says he is a good igl then i believe it
wait Marved said he is good igl? its must be 100% true then. i totally believe his neutral and unbiased opinion
Aetme [#21]wait Marved said he is good igl? its must be 100% true then. i totally believe his neutral and unbiased opinion
Damn bro maybe I should trust the vlr user instead of marved 🥶
hojart0 [#22]Damn bro maybe I should trust the vlr user instead of marved 🥶
"i wont look at players individual stats and believe his own teammates words. he is getting paid to play with him but surely there is no bias in his statements"
Aetme [#23]"i wont look at players individual stats and believe his own teammates words. he is getting paid to play with him but surely there is no bias in his statements"
So FNS isn't a good igl also
Dokka [#18]All I'm saying is that IF they lose, which is a big if cause marved is very very good,
because C9 is a great team and has crazy skill, it wouldn't be an embarrassing or terrible loss, obviously SEN would have to address issues
For example, you wouldn't fault Giants losing to the likes of Fnatic cause well you're playing a great team, doesn't mean the showing you had was bad
That logic is very flawed. Giants didn't drop their coach and their best player for the past 2 years striving for success tho. If you make such bold moves you better have results to show for it, otherwise people are gonna clown on you. That's how it works.
Manaphy [#24]So FNS isn't a good igl also
at the highest level it doesnt matter how good ur igling is if u cant aim. so many times FNS was on perfect flank but missed his shots on players back turned LOL
HuntersFury [#25]That logic is very flawed. Giants didn't drop their coach and their best player for the past 2 years striving for success tho. If you make such bold moves you better have results to show for it, otherwise people are gonna clown on you. That's how it works.
TenZ is great but he was not the best player on Sentinels, plus Tenz's personal problems very likely went into this decision,
no one really blamed Sen for their loss against Loud because you're playing fucking Loud (even if they could've closed it 2-0)
If you're playing a team that is playing better then you and you lose to that team, no matter the circumstances around that team, its not embarrassing loss
Aetme [#26]at the highest level it doesnt matter how good ur igling is if u cant aim. so many times FNS was on perfect flank but missed his shots on players back turned LOL
I also recall many times where FNS out called people to the point where he basically won the round with his calls. I'm not saying it's not a problem but he wouldn't even be here if he couldn't make up for it in some way.
Manaphy [#24]So FNS isn't a good igl also
why wouldnt fns be a good igl? His calling is far superior to dephh and so is his fragging. FNS is a proven igl time and time again, dephh on the otherhand igled on the attack half and wasnt even the one with the larger role.
Dephh somehow manages to put up numbers tenz does in his worst games but in ALL of his games. Dephh will have 1 mediocre ass map where he manages double digits but then hell have more where he literally is dragging the team down. There is no question that he isnt a tier 1 level igl, there are many more that are better than him.
Can the team succeed with him? Yes of course if he improves they could easily be the best team in the world, however there are definitely other options they couldve gone for had bias and nepotism not been involved in the decision of who would be picked up.
Manaphy [#15]You still have the thought process of C9 struggling so they can't be that good, but These mfs are good as shit and prob going to tokyo, so as long as it's close my opinion really wouldn't change.
i dont have that thought process cause they arent struggling at all. I still think C9 are really shaky tho cause i think thats quite apparent. C9 have gotten better and better but sen literally had 1 week to play with each other. I think favourites are SEN but again as i said if dephh is gonna keep dragging down his team then i dont see sen winning
Dokka [#18]All I'm saying is that IF they lose, which is a big if cause marved is very very good,
because C9 is a great team and has crazy skill, it wouldn't be an embarrassing or terrible loss, obviously SEN would have to address issues
For example, you wouldn't fault Giants losing to the likes of Fnatic cause well you're playing a great team, doesn't mean the showing you had was bad
giants losing to fnatic is on a whole different dimension of comparison my guy x_x
BoF7ooM [#8]c9 is looking dangerous. Leaf is easily the best duelist in NA rn, the honeymoon looking strong rn.
thats questionable, their opposition has been really shaky every single week. Loud were the most solid and even then it looked like loud were just kinda going through the movements and werent really there to win
Asuna_Yuuki [#19]SEN will definitely win with Marved
its not a matter of marved or anyone else playing well. Its a matter of if dephh calls well and doesnt get lost mid round over and over again and if he can actually get kills in the double digits consistently on every map played.
If he cant do that then i think its more likely sen lose
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