Liquid looked so bad in LOCK/IN, and a roster change might be necessary.
nAts can be the best player in the world, and even when the team were in shambles he played out of his mind.
Jamppi and Sayf proved to be insane in the past.
Redgar remains one of the best igls in the world.
That leaves Soulcas sadly.
I'd put redgar on Omen/Astra, Jamppi back on the sova and yay on Chamber/Jett.
Maybe I'm wrong tho, and Liquid just needs time to be good, but they seem like a good contender to sign yay since they have the funds and they need an upgrade.
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Matrix13e [#2]NA may be finished if yay is going to Liquid lol
They still have NRG, they can never be finished as long as they have the FNS/Chet duo.
Liquid looked abysmal, really disappointed. But I don;t think Yay solves the problem with that team. they already have good players, but no coordination, redgar igl in english. they need time to build that chemistry. Putting a new player even if one of the best like doesn't magically solve the issues in the team lol... I dont know why people think its a plug and play kinda thing when so much more goes into a team's success.
Infernando10 [#5]probably the best on paper team
On paper, NAVI are still the best team in the world.
But Liquid with yay would be a very strong competition
ax0788 [#6]Liquid looked abysmal, really disappointed. But I don;t think Yay solves the problem with that team. they already have good players, but no coordination, redgar igl in english. they need time to build that chemistry. Putting a new player even if one of the best like doesn't magically solve the issues in the team lol... I dont know why people think its a plug and play kinda thing when so much more goes into a team's success.
No one said it magically fixes everything, they would need time anyway but the best player in the world being a free agent is a good pick up for any team other than NAVI and Fnatic, especially when the roles would fit when redgar can play smokes and Jamppi is really good on Sova.
Chow1E [#3]they need to put nats on 6th man, hazed as igl, redgar on duelist
ez win master.
what in the fuk
Valgod [#9]Koi is the only eu team that would make sense, wolfen is not good
It doesn't make sense, they don't have the money for yay.
Liquid and Vitality are the only ones with enough funds and Vitality looks really good already.
FoechiGG [#12]Vlr try not to overreact challenge
Over-what? It's litteraly just a possibility lil bro, even Geddes discussed it yesterday.
Jeffo [#14]Over-what? It's litteraly just a possibility lil bro, even Geddes discussed it yesterday.
Leorge
Guys please stop being delusional
No eu team has the money to compete with north american salaries except vitality and they have twisten
Liquid val is based in eu they will not spend that much on salary when they already have 2 amazing oppers on the team. + their issue is strats and igl-ing not player quality
Hes gonna join an na ascension team prolly or take a break
Moiraine [#17]Guys please stop being delusional
No eu team has the money to compete with north american salaries except vitality and they have twistenLiquid val is based in eu they will not spend that much on salary when they already have 2 amazing oppers on the team. + their issue is strats and igl-ing not player quality
Hes gonna join an na ascension team prolly or take a break
Yay joining navi is more probable than him playing ascension, and Liquid have enough funds to pay yay, that's why they're the only EU possibility.
Jeffo [#18]Yay joining navi is more probable than him playing ascension, and Liquid have enough funds to pay yay, that's why they're the only EU possibility.
"Yay joining NAVI".
0/8.
All players in NAVI are better than Yay...
Zayol [#19]"Yay joining NAVI".
0/8.
All players in NAVI are better than Yay...
You really missed the point which is that yay will never join Navi and yay will never join ascension.
For what you said, yay proved to be miles above any player in the world including the Navi roster
Jeffo [#20]You really missed the point which is that yay will never join Navi and yay will never join ascension.
For what you said, yay proved to be miles above any player in the world including the Navi roster
idk man, from what i know, NA salaries are inflamed to the point where they are 5x EU salaries
I'm sure Yay would take a paycut to join a good team but idk if he'd take that high of a cut
And liquid valorant is operating in EU not NA, they're not paying NA salaries
Guess we will see
edit : inflated not inflamed smh
Jeffo [#20]You really missed the point which is that yay will never join Navi and yay will never join ascension.
For what you said, yay proved to be miles above any player in the world including the Navi roster
You are really dumb if you think Yay is the best player in the world and is miles ahead of any player.
NAVI players are at least top 5 in their roles right now.
Yay just abused a broken agent and has no versatility.
Expected from a liquid fan tbh, no brain
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Moiraine [#21]idk man, from what i know, NA salaries are inflamed to the point where they are 5x EU salaries
I'm sure Yay would take a paycut to join a good team but idk if he'd take that high of a cut
And liquid valorant is operating in EU not NA, they're not paying NA salaries
Guess we will seeedit : inflated not inflamed smh
I agree with you on the salaries part, but do you think he'd rather not compete than take a paycut to join Liquid? I don't think so.
Zayol [#22]You are really dumb if you think Yay is the best player in the world and is miles ahead of any player.
NAVI players are at least top 5 in their roles right now.
Yay just abused a broken agent and has no versatility.
Expected from a liquid fan tbh, no brain
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Yes, of course he abused chamber back in Berlin 2021 too when he had 280 ACS and Chamber wasn't even a thing.
Yes Navi is the best team in the world, and they all are top 5 in their roles respectively, except yay proved over 2021 and 2022 that he's not top 5 in his role, he's top 1 overall and it's not even close.
Btw, calling someone dumb and using laugh emojis is not really the way to argue.
Gutssz [#16]i agree
yay - Duelist
Sayf - Flex
Jamppi - Init/Second Duelist
nAts - Sentinel/Viper
Redgar - Controllerjust give them time and watch
This comp is so weird. Idk but he just doesn't fit into this roster but might be resency bias
Jeffo [#24]Yes, of course he abused chamber back in Berlin 2021 too when he had 280 ACS and Chamber wasn't even a thing.
Yes Navi is the best team in the world, and they all are top 5 in their roles respectively, except yay proved over 2021 and 2022 that he's not top 5 in his role, he's top 1 overall and it's not even close.
Btw, calling someone dumb and using laugh emojis is not really the way to argue.
A simple eye test should tell you how much a fraud yay is.
His entire playstyle is angle holding with low sens, ads with a rifle.
It's disgusting to watch.
You can't name someone the best player in val when roles massively affect stats.
A massive reason behind Yay's success is FNS and Chet.
They set him up a lot to chamber abuse.
Watch someone like Leo, and Mwzera and see the skill gap...
Jeffo [#24]Yes, of course he abused chamber back in Berlin 2021 too when he had 280 ACS and Chamber wasn't even a thing.
Yes Navi is the best team in the world, and they all are top 5 in their roles respectively, except yay proved over 2021 and 2022 that he's not top 5 in his role, he's top 1 overall and it's not even close.
Btw, calling someone dumb and using laugh emojis is not really the way to argue.
Yay lost to redgar on Reyna 💀
Zayol [#26]A simple eye test should tell you how much a fraud yay is.
His entire playstyle is angle holding with low sens, ads with a rifle.
It's disgusting to watch.
You can't name someone the best player in val when roles massively affect stats.
A massive reason behind Yay's success is FNS and Chet.
They set him up a lot to chamber abuse.
Watch someone like Leo, and Mwzera and see the skill gap...
Bro litteraly comparing Yay to Leo and Mwzera, not worth my time.
Have a good day.
Okoretro [#27]Yay lost to redgar on Reyna 💀
He dropped 27k and 320 ACS on that map, marved was second with 160ACS, and he was 4-1 in duels against redgar's reyna, so i don't really see what you mean when you say that he lost to redgar's reyna.
Jeffo [#28]Bro litteraly comparing Yay to Leo and Mwzera, not worth my time.
Have a good day.
Don't disrespect Mwzera and Leo.
Leo received the most offers in franchising even from APAC and Americas orgs.
Saadhak wanted Mwzera to join Loud 2 times.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Zayol [#32]Don't disrespect Mwzera and Leo.
Leo received the most offers in franchising even from APAC and Americas orgs.
Saadhak wanted Mwzera to join Loud 2 times.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
This guy has an anti Leo agenda btw
Zayol [#32]Don't disrespect Mwzera and Leo.
Leo received the most offers in franchising even from APAC and Americas orgs.
Saadhak wanted Mwzera to join Loud 2 times.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Don't disrespect the best player the game has every seen, disrespecting Leo and Mwzera who achieved nothing so far is not comparable.
Okoretro [#33]This guy has an anti Leo agenda btw
I have no agenda against anyone, I like leo and he's a really good player, but comparing him to yay? That's some shameless stuff
Okoretro [#33]This guy has an anti Leo agenda btw
He is in denial.
Leo was rated by a lot of scouts as the best free agent in EMEA pre franchising
That should tell you all you need to know
Zayol [#36]He is in denial.
Leo was rated by a lot of scouts as the best free agent in EMEA pre franchising
That should tell you all you need to know
Yay was rated by scouts and everyone as the goat of valorant, aren't you in denial?
Chow1E [#3]they need to put nats on 6th man, hazed as igl, redgar on duelist
ez win master.
can u ask john cena to buy me an ice cream?
Chow1E [#3]they need to put nats on 6th man, hazed as igl, redgar on duelist
ez win master.
can u ask john cena to buy me an ice cream?
dapada [#40]No.
Yay is not the same ever since chamber got nerfed. He's still good, but not in the top 10 anymore, maybe top 20.
And you reached this conclusion from 2 games with C9?
Valgod [#9]Koi is the only eu team that would make sense, wolfen is not good
Koi has bags of money as well
iDanigcs [#25]This comp is so weird. Idk but he just doesn't fit into this roster but might be resency bias
I need soulcas to go so that the original liquid roster ends.
Jeffo [#41]And you reached this conclusion from 2 games with C9?
Anyone with a brain would know?
Dude has been spamming chamber pick throughout the year 2022
dapada [#40]No.
Yay is not the same ever since chamber got nerfed. He's still good, but not in the top 10 anymore, maybe top 20.
Still better than soulcas
dapada [#44]Anyone with a brain would know?
Dude has been spamming chamber pick throughout the year 2022
Because it works? And because it's the best agent on valorant in 2022? And he's the best player? So it makes sense, he made top 3 in every event with Chamber and was always one of the best players at every event.
When jett was meta same thing happened, he spammed jett and destroyed everyone, I really don't see your point you're making.
Jeffo [#49]Because it works? And because it's the best agent on valorant in 2022? And he's the best player? So it makes sense, he made top 3 in every event with Chamber and was always one of the best players at every event.
When jett was meta same thing happened, he spammed jett and destroyed everyone, I really don't see your point you're making.
"Because it works? And because it's the best agent on valorant in 2022? And he's the best player? So it makes sense, he made top 3 in every event with Chamber and was always one of the best players at every event."
Read my post "Yay is not the same ever since chamber got nerfed. He's still good"
Don't get me wrong, he's undoubtedly the best when it comes to Chamber, but the nerf kinda fucked him up as a player.
The point I'm trying to make is, stop saying he's better than this or that pro and should replace them based on his performance on Chamber alone. You act like he's a god on every agent and is better than everyone just because of his Chamber performance.
Also, his post-nerf jett performance is not even in the top 10.
gabriesga [#47]If yay plays on the same team as soulcas I think he gonna kill himself in disgust
WTF LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
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