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Who is the strongest EMEA team?

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#1
Golemancien

TL?
FNC?
NAVI?

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Dokka
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Imo Fnatic overall

NAVI at this event

And TL over time

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I think with the addition of Leo who is a really good Sova player, Boaster can really dial up their plays and put Derke in an optimal position to carry with info and utility. I do believe Derke is best player in the world, he has perfomed incredibly well until now and proved all the doubters wrong not to mention his raw aim is better than Aspas and Yay but the most important factor is of course the brain of the team which is Boaster being able to change up the plays and map pool and really get the best out of this Fnatic 2023 squad.

TLDR: Better team chemistry, top 5 player, top 2 igl (After Ange1) and positive complimentary additions such as Chronicle.

Leo - he was the second best on guild and the team was literally 4vs5 ing emea and made playoffs on masters by playing the same way
btw he has the same stats as tier 1 duelists playing support initiators (breach/sova/fade on +200 acs on masters and lcq instead of typical flex kay o and skye which are the aggresive ones)

Alfajer - alfa is the best duelist in the world according to international performances and thats facts.

Chronicle - Chronicle is the best flex in this game (with only Sacy being close to him). Guy knows how to play AT LEAST 10 agents and can perform well in high level.

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orqn
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FNC on paper but they have the Fnatic syndrome so probably NAVI
TL is close behind

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patuj
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Fnatic or NaVi - my quick take

Fnatic - Insane roster. Really stacked on every role, especially having Derke and Leo on this meta is so good for them. Has IGL that is native English speaker making calling way easier. Concerns: choking, Boaster's calling on high stake games.

NaVi - Really good roster. This meta will suit them really well with Jett, traditional sentinel and initiator dominant one. Also one of the best anti-strat teams out there even though it won't help much here. Also has shown the ability to switch up comps and styles a lot. Concerns: can cNed flex if needed, and how he overall fits to this team like resource taking, comms in and out of game etc.

Liquid - Good roster as well. They finally got a proper IGL and nAts is one of the best sentinels even though we likely won't see much of Cypher. A lot of flexibility. Concerns: Redgar's IGLing overall(wasn't biggest fan of M3C calls) and him having to do that in English. Possible role conflicts between Jamppi and Sayf. Like who plays Raze if needed etc. Also maybe bit inconsistent on higher stake games in players like Jamppi and Soulcas.

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Moiraine
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We will know once we see them play.
The 3 strongest ones are all in the same bracket so...

We can't know who's strongest yet, people who are answering alrdy before even watching them play are just talking out of their ass.
Same thing with NA, we can't know who's the strongest one until we see them play.

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WinterZ
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Liquid

#8
Domination
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Fnatic, others irrelevant 🗿

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patuj [#5]

Fnatic or NaVi - my quick take

Fnatic - Insane roster. Really stacked on every role, especially having Derke and Leo on this meta is so good for them. Has IGL that is native English speaker making calling way easier. Concerns: choking, Boaster's calling on high stake games.

NaVi - Really good roster. This meta will suit them really well with Jett, traditional sentinel and initiator dominant one. Also one of the best anti-strat teams out there even though it won't help much here. Also has shown the ability to switch up comps and styles a lot. Concerns: can cNed flex if needed, and how he overall fits to this team like resource taking, comms in and out of game etc.

Liquid - Good roster as well. They finally got a proper IGL and nAts is one of the best sentinels even though we likely won't see much of Cypher. A lot of flexibility. Concerns: Redgar's IGLing overall(wasn't biggest fan of M3C calls) and him having to do that in English. Possible role conflicts between Jamppi and Sayf. Like who plays Raze if needed etc. Also maybe bit inconsistent on higher stake games in players like Jamppi and Soulcas.

I think nats probably going to play smokes like he did for m3c last few games. But also have to think that jampii has played a lot of roles for TL and i can see him going to smokes again or main initiator. I see sayf picking up the raze maybe (he tried a couple times on guild before going to full sentinel). Bigger concern is who is going to play sentinel on non-jett maps since sayf was transitioning to the role the last time guild played. Redgar has played every support role on m3c so hes chillin. In general this team has some crazy role overlap just like c9 does, I mean they made it work tho.

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navi should be the 3rd but the 1 and 2 could be fnc or tl

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Mocratow
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Parla eSports but they are not in franchising

#12
Itsover
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Lulquid>Na'Vi>Fnatic

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thatpower
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navi is way better than both. fnc and tl are so overrated its crazy

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heretics

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thiagomds
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Giants

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Average_VLR_User [#3]

I think with the addition of Leo who is a really good Sova player, Boaster can really dial up their plays and put Derke in an optimal position to carry with info and utility. I do believe Derke is best player in the world, he has perfomed incredibly well until now and proved all the doubters wrong not to mention his raw aim is better than Aspas and Yay but the most important factor is of course the brain of the team which is Boaster being able to change up the plays and map pool and really get the best out of this Fnatic 2023 squad.

TLDR: Better team chemistry, top 5 player, top 2 igl (After Ange1) and positive complimentary additions such as Chronicle.

Leo - he was the second best on guild and the team was literally 4vs5 ing emea and made playoffs on masters by playing the same way
btw he has the same stats as tier 1 duelists playing support initiators (breach/sova/fade on +200 acs on masters and lcq instead of typical flex kay o and skye which are the aggresive ones)

Alfajer - alfa is the best duelist in the world according to international performances and thats facts.

Chronicle - Chronicle is the best flex in this game (with only Sacy being close to him). Guy knows how to play AT LEAST 10 agents and can perform well in high level.

"Derke best player in the world".
Quick reminder that Derke got Jett diffed by 34 y/o Ange1
https://www.vlr.gg/79077/fnatic-vs-funplus-phoenix-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=overview

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Ryuji
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Team Liquid obviously

#18
Shownu
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Fnatic

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Ryuji
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Shownu [#18]

Fnatic

3rd best after TL and NAVI 😁

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Mocratow [#16]

"Derke best player in the world".
Quick reminder that Derke got Jett diffed by 34 y/o Ange1
https://www.vlr.gg/79077/fnatic-vs-funplus-phoenix-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=overview

"Derke best player in the world".
Quick reminder that Derke got Jett diffed by 34 y/o Ange1
https://www.vlr.gg/79077/fnatic-vs-funplus-phoenix-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=overview

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hanafuji [#20]

"Derke best player in the world".
Quick reminder that Derke got Jett diffed by 34 y/o Ange1
https://www.vlr.gg/79077/fnatic-vs-funplus-phoenix-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=overview

😡😡😡

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Shownu
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Ryuji [#19]

3rd best after TL and NAVI 😁

Nope. Derke solo clears Navi and Liquid. Alfajer, Leo, Chronicle are what you gotta worry about after slowing Derke down LUL.

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Ryuji [#17]

Team Liquid obviously

Doombros owns emil

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Dokka [#2]

Imo Fnatic overall

NAVI at this event

And TL over time

then in what sense is Fnatic the best? Like if they're not the best in neither act nor potency then how are they nr. 1 overall?

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Ryuji
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Shownu [#22]

Nope. Derke solo clears Navi and Liquid. Alfajer, Leo, Chronicle are what you gotta worry about after slowing Derke down LUL.

Jamppi better Finnish player than derke 😈

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Dokka
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maKaK02 [#24]

then in what sense is Fnatic the best? Like if they're not the best in neither act nor potency then how are they nr. 1 overall?

Fnatic has the most stacked roster in the history of valorant, thats undeniable.
If you compared any franchised roster on paper to FNATIC, they will beat them on paper

but that's the whole thing, "on paper", putting together 5 of the best players intw doesn't necessarily mean that said team will win. Especially in such a nuance and ever-changing game like valo.

If everything goes well with this team, then in my opinion, there is no stopping them

but there is no guarantee of that, hell they could slam Sentinels off the server and then get owned by FURIA/T1
If this team truly wants to dominate they're gonna have to be incredibly disciplined because, as we've seen yesterday, you could lose to any team and that's it

but as of right now, what ive heard from scrims and interviews, things seem to be clicking and potentially we could see the fnatic promised

#27
ottawaosaka17
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FNATIC

#28
Shownu
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Ryuji [#25]

Jamppi better Finnish player than derke 😈

Too inconsistent so Derke still betta

#29
TheHowling03
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  1. Navi
  2. TL
  3. FNC
  4. KC

Only time will tell tho.

#30
LouBag
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FNC best team in the world on paper.

NAVI best team in EU with recent results

TL just happy to be here.

#31
I_HATE_MCE
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All of them weak

#32
cocoluna
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Every time FNC suck and underperform so Navi or Liquid

#33
Franx
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Cresp [#9]

I think nats probably going to play smokes like he did for m3c last few games. But also have to think that jampii has played a lot of roles for TL and i can see him going to smokes again or main initiator. I see sayf picking up the raze maybe (he tried a couple times on guild before going to full sentinel). Bigger concern is who is going to play sentinel on non-jett maps since sayf was transitioning to the role the last time guild played. Redgar has played every support role on m3c so hes chillin. In general this team has some crazy role overlap just like c9 does, I mean they made it work tho.

Redgar will play smokes and Nats will play sentinels I think

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SatanLovesYou
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Dokka [#26]

Fnatic has the most stacked roster in the history of valorant, thats undeniable.
If you compared any franchised roster on paper to FNATIC, they will beat them on paper

but that's the whole thing, "on paper", putting together 5 of the best players intw doesn't necessarily mean that said team will win. Especially in such a nuance and ever-changing game like valo.

If everything goes well with this team, then in my opinion, there is no stopping them

but there is no guarantee of that, hell they could slam Sentinels off the server and then get owned by FURIA/T1
If this team truly wants to dominate they're gonna have to be incredibly disciplined because, as we've seen yesterday, you could lose to any team and that's it

but as of right now, what ive heard from scrims and interviews, things seem to be clicking and potentially we could see the fnatic promised

I had Fnatic beating out SEN, mostly because of those micky mouse LANs... but seeing c9 come back as strong as they did after red bulls. With Brazil crowd buff. I think it might be the match of the tournament regardless. That being said, poor APAC... they've been getting fucking smashed this tournament outside of DRX so far.

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Dokka
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SatanLovesYou [#34]

I had Fnatic beating out SEN, mostly because of those micky mouse LANs... but seeing c9 come back as strong as they did after red bulls. With Brazil crowd buff. I think it might be the match of the tournament regardless. That being said, poor APAC... they've been getting fucking smashed this tournament outside of DRX so far.

I'm praying for Talon today, if they're playing well today, i think they have a great chance to get top 8

#36
SatanLovesYou
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Dokka [#35]

I'm praying for Talon today, if they're playing well today, i think they have a great chance to get top 8

I hope so, I really love the fact that APAC last year stayed competitive with EMEA/Americas regions. It's why I enjoy watching valorant so much since you never really see that in CS.

#37
juno_VLR
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navi most likely since angel

#38
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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navi atm because good core + cned back on jett meta

#39
juho
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NAVI any day lol

#40
1mBor3d
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fnatic or navi, fnatic could be better if they work well as a team navi has the stronger team rn probably

#41
egg80085
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orqn [#4]

FNC on paper but they have the Fnatic syndrome so probably NAVI
TL is close behind

surely fnatic win something with this roster

#42
Moiraine
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LouBag [#30]

FNC best team in the world on paper.

NAVI best team in EU with recent results

TL just happy to be here.

how can NAVI be the best team in EU and FNC be the best team in the world? When both are EU?
If fnatic are the best team in the world then they're also the best team in EU
Hello ? xd

#43
Shownu
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Moiraine [#42]

how can NAVI be the best team in EU and FNC be the best team in the world? When both are EU?
If fnatic are the best team in the world then they're also the best team in EU
Hello ? xd

NA brain

#44
moatz
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TL easily bc of Nats

#45
Gutssz
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Liquid cuz non-duelist best player itw is nAts

#46
ogking
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Gutssz [#45]

Liquid cuz non-duelist best player itw is nAts

Chronicle> nats

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