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Ballon d'Or 2023
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koromast [#9]its like vlr community awards best baiter trophy
Bait for goals ?? Like hiko bait for kills ?
Skyss [#10]just need 7 match to win something big like baloon dor??
if city win UCL next year, halaand deserve to win that dor
What's worth more in your opinion: 2 goals against France in a World Cup Final or 2 goals against West Ham
Piter [#18]What's worth more in your opinion: 2 goals against France in a World Cup Final or 2 goals against West Ham
Is West Ham in UCL?? Max brazilian iq
Piter [#18]What's worth more in your opinion: 2 goals against France in a World Cup Final or 2 goals against West Ham
beat real madrid, bayern, liverpool, or psg more harder than against team like Morocco or Croatia
lambii0 [#22]Is West Ham in UCL?? Max brazilian iq
Just making the comparison between what most of Haaland's goals have been, against what Messi has done. Balon d'or is decided based not only on the amount of goals scored or assisted, but also on what influence the player has on the game. Modric won in 2018 (shouldn't have imo, but whatever) due in great part to his WC performance. If Messi puts up even a decent season he should win it. If Haaland absolutely carries Man City to a UCL win then that's ok, there can be an argument made, but otherwise Messi wins
Skyss [#25]beat real madrid, bayern, liverpool, or psg more harder than against team like Morocco or Croatia
Morocco yeah I guess, Croatia I disagree, but that's a good point. However, Messi has already become an icon this year due to his performance in this tournament, and it's obvious as to why. The award isn't always given the award to the player with the most goals, as I said above, they give it to the one who is most voted by journalists, managers, etc. Haaland would have to put up the most fantastic stats to take that off of Messi
Piter [#27]Morocco yeah I guess, Croatia I disagree, but that's a good point. However, Messi has already become an icon this year due to his performance in this tournament, and it's obvious as to why. The award isn't always given the award to the player with the most goals, as I said above, they give it to the one who is most voted by journalists, managers, etc. Haaland would have to put up the most fantastic stats to take that off of Messi
He has an Average currently of a goal every 60 minutes played or something, which is astounding, but the status one gains by winning the WC, I think it goes to Messi anyway, and Haaland is unfortunate to be born norwegian with a team that even he can't carry (no offense norwegians)
Piter [#27]Morocco yeah I guess, Croatia I disagree, but that's a good point. However, Messi has already become an icon this year due to his performance in this tournament, and it's obvious as to why. The award isn't always given the award to the player with the most goals, as I said above, they give it to the one who is most voted by journalists, managers, etc. Haaland would have to put up the most fantastic stats to take that off of Messi
just throwback word cup 2010 until 2018, no one won baloon dor after winning the world cup.
2010 = messi won, sneijder robbed
2014 = ronaldo won, deserved
2018 = modric won, deserved
Skyss [#29]just throwback word cup 2010 until 2018, no one won baloon dor after winning the world cup.
2010 = messi won, sneijder robbed
2014 = ronaldo won, deserved
2018 = modric won, deserved
None of: Spain, Germany or France had star players to compete with Messi, Ronaldo or Modric at that height (Spain arguably had Iniesta, you mentioned Sneijder, France had Mbappe, but I don't think he was even that close, there were more before him), but I believe this time is different. Haaland will probably win his fair share, but this is the year Messi consolidates himself as the GOAT, and they don't give him the ballon d'or? Just my opinion
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