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What's your guys opinion on EDward Gaming. I think personally they are a really good team and have shown that China is capable of being a top contender in the world.

During their run in East Asia LCQ they made a flawless run and didn't drop a single map, and beat teams like On Sla2ers which is the second best team in Korea and beat NORTHEPTION which is the second best team in Japan.

During their run in Champions they put up a amazing fight against teams like Paper Rex and, Team Liquid which were tournament favourites and pushed them to their limits.

Their roster in my opinion has high potential of being a top roster in the world and should be feared throughout valorant.

Their roster is:

ZmjjKK
nobody
CHICHOO
Haodong
Life(left EDG)
Smoggy(sub)
Abo(sub)

Hope they can find success in the scene.

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Their roster is really good and still the best of China but they need more international tournament exposure or just need to play against more APAC teams to correct their mistakes .
Other orgs are catching up tho . Abo will likely fill the role of what smoggy did before as he has been grinding hard . I see a lot of players of Totoro , KONE , NTER . The next FGC will be very interesting for sure

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Good team even though the valo scene at CN is still restricted but too less exposure to vct, hence lacking in experience

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severely handicapped by not regularly playing in T1 APAC

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I agree but why is Edward gaming and how is he gaming so good?

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babysasuke [#4]

severely handicapped by not regularly playing in T1 APAC

not really. more handicapped by the game not being out.
cn valorant is probably on par with apac
only apac team they would lose to is prx

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not really. more handicapped by the game not being out.
cn valorant is probably on par with apac
only apac team they would lose to is prx

No they are not . EDG is the only team which can probably go toe to toe with teams other than PRX but not other teams . Atleast not yet

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not really. more handicapped by the game not being out.
cn valorant is probably on par with apac
only apac team they would lose to is prx

You dont think they would see much faster improvement playing in APAC franchise league rather than being relegated to China only?

They got 2-0'd by Liquid at champs who didnt even look that strong

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only zmjjkk is good, others all mid

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acels1 [#9]

only zmjjkk is good, others all mid

Nah there are some actual good players other than him

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JiangLi [#10]

Nah there are some actual good players other than him

who?

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acels1 [#11]

who?

Nobody is good in EDG, cuz they don't have Life

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Domination [#12]

Nobody is good in EDG, cuz they don't have Life

wdym? zmjjkk is as good as meteor

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acels1 [#13]

wdym? zmjjkk is as good as meteor

Look at the player names again I'm joking xD

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acels1 [#11]

who?

Eren , Smoggy , Chichoo , Knight are some who are better than average players

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their lcq run was perfect to the point ppl overhyped them so much at champs. sucks that they knocked out very early. all they need is probably some discipline or learn the current meta (remember breach jett combo at bind).

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babysasuke [#8]

You dont think they would see much faster improvement playing in APAC franchise league rather than being relegated to China only?

They got 2-0'd by Liquid at champs who didnt even look that strong

i mean its hard to tell the depth of the chinese scene.
i also think apac is pretty shallow in terms of consistent high level quality.
but now with apac being franchised i think the scene would improve alot.
they will also scrim against partnered teams so i dont think they will fall behind.

also liquid werent bad at champs either. (and that game life instead of smoggy)

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acels1 [#13]

wdym? zmjjkk is as good as meteor

yep i'd say he better than meteor

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i mean its hard to tell the depth of the chinese scene.
i also think apac is pretty shallow in terms of consistent high level quality.
but now with apac being franchised i think the scene would improve alot.
they will also scrim against partnered teams so i dont think they will fall behind.

also liquid werent bad at champs either. (and that game life instead of smoggy)

isnt life the starter?

liquid was mid

and APAC is going to be a monster of a region this year

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isnt life the starter?

liquid was mid

and APAC is going to be a monster of a region this year

apac suffered alot from their SEA being segmented into smaller regions , where each region only had 1 strong team.

smoggy > life.
life has been dropped as of recently.

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JiangLi [#7]

No they are not . EDG is the only team which can probably go toe to toe with teams other than PRX but not other teams . Atleast not yet

Drx clears prx so does edg and zeta

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the most overrated team at previous champs. but they are insane for a team with less t1 experience. saying they are overrated bcoz ppl predicted them winning lol

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gordonramsay [#21]

Drx clears prx so does edg and zeta

i was talking about apac region the one which was used up until before but stay mad lil bro
EDG can for sure clap your favorite team GenG tho

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JiangLi [#23]

i was talking about apac region the one which was used up until before but stay mad lil bro
EDG can for sure clap your favorite team GenG tho

easy east asia domination within next year

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gordonramsay [#24]

easy east asia domination within next year

China will dominate you once they are in the League . You alr got the trailer in LCQ . Theres no east asia here bud . Come out of your comfort namings

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only zmjjkk is good, others all mid

nah china has some pretty good players but they are all scattered around the scene

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JiangLi [#25]

China will dominate you once they are in the League . You alr got the trailer in LCQ . Theres no east asia here bud . Come out of your comfort namings

china would shit on sea too

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JiangLi [#25]

China will dominate you once they are in the League . You alr got the trailer in LCQ . Theres no east asia here bud . Come out of your comfort namings

LMAO fluke paper rex fan talking? Get out of groups without a bye and talk. You a dumbass for talking east asia as an example. They put chinas #1 team in a lcq with #2-4 seeds obv its a free ass win lets put drx or zeta in there too. china gonna dominate? Not in overwatch not in league not in pubg until now and I have way more too. When we take a game seriously we are competitors for best in asia and foh never will singapore reach that level

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gordonramsay [#28]

LMAO fluke paper rex fan talking? Get out of groups without a bye and talk. You a dumbass for talking east asia as an example. They put chinas #1 team in a lcq with #2-4 seeds obv its a free ass win lets put drx or zeta in there too. china gonna dominate? Not in overwatch not in league not in pubg until now and I have way more too. When we take a game seriously we are competitors for best in asia and foh never will singapore reach that level

holy fucking based

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thatpower [#27]

china would shit on sea too

They probably will lmao but we know who they will clap for sure tho ><

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gordonramsay [#28]

LMAO fluke paper rex fan talking? Get out of groups without a bye and talk. You a dumbass for talking east asia as an example. They put chinas #1 team in a lcq with #2-4 seeds obv its a free ass win lets put drx or zeta in there too. china gonna dominate? Not in overwatch not in league not in pubg until now and I have way more too. When we take a game seriously we are competitors for best in asia and foh never will singapore reach that level

LMAOO SO MADD STAY MAD we got 2nd place at least . You brought East asia i didnt even bring that up .
They put China #1 ( where game isnt even released ) with teams like your favorites DWG and ONS but unfortunately they still got clapped but China#2 lmfao . Anything more disgraceful?
Also Singapore an island nation in SEA with 5 mil population and non existent esports scene has the same amount of pros as your region lmao . Isnt that laughable ? Sgpeans got 0 funding and no orgs as well but our FA teams will stil clap your unfortunately

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LMAOO SO MADD STAY MAD we got 2nd place at least . You brought East asia i didnt even bring that up .
They put China #1 ( where game isnt even released ) with teams like your favorites DWG and ONS but unfortunately they still got clapped but China#2 lmfao . Anything more disgraceful?
Also Singapore an island nation in SEA with 5 mil population and non existent esports scene has the same amount of pros as your region lmao . Isnt that laughable ? Sgpeans got 0 funding and no orgs as well but our FA teams will stil clap your unfortunately

i am afraid oce clears both of your mickey mouse regions

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i am afraid oce clears both of your mickey mouse regions

OCE clears everyone

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My super idol

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JiangLi [#31]

LMAOO SO MADD STAY MAD we got 2nd place at least . You brought East asia i didnt even bring that up .
They put China #1 ( where game isnt even released ) with teams like your favorites DWG and ONS but unfortunately they still got clapped but China#2 lmfao . Anything more disgraceful?
Also Singapore an island nation in SEA with 5 mil population and non existent esports scene has the same amount of pros as your region lmao . Isnt that laughable ? Sgpeans got 0 funding and no orgs as well but our FA teams will stil clap your unfortunately

but then you guys grouped at the biggest tournament of the year. I also dont remember if you guys even ever got out of groups lol. I still think prx is a great team but at this point anyone who thinks they are #1 in asia is delusional. Theres a reason even ur coach says drx is the face of asia. aye I mean our 4th seed got 2nd with 2 stand ins. Disappointed on how DK performed but Im sure they will bounce back in ascension. You really think we cant compete with china? Babo seki

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but then you guys grouped at the biggest tournament of the year. I also dont remember if you guys even ever got out of groups lol. I still think prx is a great team but at this point anyone who thinks they are #1 in asia is delusional. Theres a reason even ur coach says drx is the face of asia. aye I mean our 4th seed got 2nd with 2 stand ins. Disappointed on how DK performed but Im sure they will bounce back in ascension. You really think we cant compete with china? Babo seki

bro chill lmfao i agree with you but your taking it too seriously

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but then you guys grouped at the biggest tournament of the year. I also dont remember if you guys even ever got out of groups lol. I still think prx is a great team but at this point anyone who thinks they are #1 in asia is delusional. Theres a reason even ur coach says drx is the face of asia. aye I mean our 4th seed got 2nd with 2 stand ins. Disappointed on how DK performed but Im sure they will bounce back in ascension. You really think we cant compete with china? Babo seki

Yes got grouped at the biggest tournament but which successful team has not faced big defeats like this ? also where did i ever say PRX is #1 ? I alr know at this current moment DRX is better than PRX and you dont need to tell me what alecks said .Every team in apac respect drx they help with prac for many teams .
Also yes i rlly don't think you can compete with China after the shitshow i saw at LCQ . Also most KR players went Franchised teams alr so you can just forget about ascension . China will hard clap your teams

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JiangLi [#37]

Yes got grouped at the biggest tournament but which successful team has not faced big defeats like this ? also where did i ever say PRX is #1 ? I alr know at this current moment DRX is better than PRX and you dont need to tell me what alecks said .Every team in apac respect drx they help with prac for many teams .
Also yes i rlly don't think you can compete with China after the shitshow i saw at LCQ . Also most KR players went Franchised teams alr so you can just forget about ascension . China will hard clap your teams

you rated prx over drx in your tier list

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thatpower [#36]

bro chill lmfao i agree with you but your taking it too seriously

gotta humble these sea bots

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JiangLi [#37]

Yes got grouped at the biggest tournament but which successful team has not faced big defeats like this ? also where did i ever say PRX is #1 ? I alr know at this current moment DRX is better than PRX and you dont need to tell me what alecks said .Every team in apac respect drx they help with prac for many teams .
Also yes i rlly don't think you can compete with China after the shitshow i saw at LCQ . Also most KR players went Franchised teams alr so you can just forget about ascension . China will hard clap your teams

noob its only getting started dont you worry

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thatpower [#38]

you rated prx over drx in your tier list

i dont remember where i did but if i did its probably out of bias . On that list DRX would probably be in 2nd . But if i make a fresh list now i would put DRX above

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gordonramsay [#40]

noob its only getting started dont you worry

yeah sure buddy everyone is getting started not just you
You been saying that for 2+ years but i will believe you this time too because KR valorant really is growing
I didn't even bring up Indonesia and India growth but nvm you are so delusional you wont even know about them

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JiangLi [#42]

yeah sure buddy everyone is getting started not just you
You been saying that for 2+ years but i will believe you this time too because KR valorant really is growing
I didn't even bring up Indonesia and India growth but nvm you are so delusional you wont even know about them

its crazy cause I actually think sea region has hella potential at producing prodigies but as team success Im not sure they will win out east asia as much as you think they will

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JiangLi [#41]

i dont remember where i did but if i did its probably out of bias . On that list DRX would probably be in 2nd . But if i make a fresh list now i would put DRX above

all good bro i mean its fine if you think prx are better

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its crazy cause I actually think sea region has hella potential at producing prodigies but as team success Im not sure they will win out east asia as much as you think they will

You like to use the term East Asia as a coping mechanism but in ascension Japan and China( if they in ascension) are the only competitive players .
I don't use sea because growth isn't the same in every country here . SG is p stale . Indo growing most followed by Thai and PH . We got Indian teams but they still have player problems. Then there is VN , HK , TW who never get exposure but they still got 1 such superteam who are actual beasts . Example Fancy

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You like to use the term East Asia as a coping mechanism but in ascension Japan and China( if they in ascension) are the only competitive players .
I don't use sea because growth isn't the same in every country here . SG is p stale . Indo growing most followed by Thai and PH . We got Indian teams but they still have player problems. Then there is VN , HK , TW who never get exposure but they still got 1 such superteam who are actual beasts . Example Fancy

Bro what coping mechanism? I can just keep bringing up korea but I dont wanna cause you sea fans like to separate apac and east asia for some reason and this point your just stupid its funny. Whos got the best team in east asia and asia? Alright talk to you next time bud

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Bro what coping mechanism? I can just keep bringing up korea but I dont wanna cause you sea fans like to separate apac and east asia for some reason and this point your just stupid its funny. Whos got the best team in east asia and asia? Alright talk to you next time bud

Who likes to separate East Asia and APAC ? East Asia isn't even a separate entity in valorant except the one lcq . KR , JP and CN are all separate 💀

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JiangLi [#23]

i was talking about apac region the one which was used up until before but stay mad lil bro
EDG can for sure clap your favorite team GenG tho

https://www.vlr.gg/156246/gen-g-vs-edg-scrims

not in scrims they can't

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https://www.vlr.gg/156246/gen-g-vs-edg-scrims

not in scrims they can't

In scrims Laze ( Long amazing zebra ears ) can defeat PRX as well

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yep i'd say he better than meteor

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1083/champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier

meteor literally outclassed zmjjkk in every single metric, while on a worse team
bruh

I would say they are on par

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JiangLi [#7]

No they are not . EDG is the only team which can probably go toe to toe with teams other than PRX but not other teams . Atleast not yet

KONE can too, to be honest I think you guys just like to overate APAC teams and underate EA teams

I mean a half power CNJ almost beat TS ffs

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JiangLi [#49]

In scrims Laze ( Long amazing zebra ears ) can defeat PRX as well

EDG can for sure clap your favorite team GenG tho

just giving a counterargument :)

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KONE can too, to be honest I think you guys just like to overate APAC teams and underate EA teams

I mean a half power CNJ almost beat TS ffs

dude please stfu wdym by EA teams ? i only ever shit on kr teams before and its literally the opposite because people like u overrate kr teams out of proportion. Then we got a good clown show in LCQ . Atleast archetype brings up valid points . EA is a region in your dreams which doesn't even exist in Val. CN will clap your ass . You dont even bring a valid argument

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1083/champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier

meteor literally outclassed zmjjkk in every single metric, while on a worse team
bruh

I would say they are on par

yeah i think they on par mostly . But before LCQ NTH were the favorites because they just play Masters before that . We only got to know later after results but still Meteor stood out a lot in NTH because he was the best

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dude please stfu wdym by EA teams ? i only ever shit on kr teams before and its literally the opposite because people like u overrate kr teams out of proportion. Then we got a good clown show in LCQ . Atleast archetype brings up valid points . EA is a region in your dreams which doesn't even exist in Val. CN will clap your ass . You dont even bring a valid argument

holy, why are you so aggressive 24/7

  1. EA = KR/JP/CN, teams from those three regions are "East Asian", that's literally not even up for argumentation
  2. What team did we overate other than DK? DRX are literally better than PRX. ONS did well in the LCQ. Gen.G and T1 are considered middle of the pack. CNJ almost beat TS lol.
  3. We all know that CN val gets clapped by DRX and my 'argument' was just saying that you underrate JP/KR/CN teams
  4. cry is absolutely free
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holy, why are you so aggressive 24/7

  1. EA = KR/JP/CN, teams from those three regions are "East Asian", that's literally not even up for argumentation
  2. What team did we overate other than DK? DRX are literally better than PRX. ONS did well in the LCQ. Gen.G and T1 are considered middle of the pack. CNJ almost beat TS lol.
  3. We all know that CN val gets clapped by DRX and my 'argument' was just saying that you underrate JP/KR/CN teams
  4. cry is absolutely free
  1. EA is not even one entity in valorant . KR , JP are separate since the start . Game isnt even released in China but still their second best team beat all your teams . So dont hide behind EA and say shit like " guys like u hate EA " when people have only shit on people like u who overrate KR teams
  2. No need to tell me DRX better because i alr know they better for now. If u tell me CNJ will beat TS i would believe u because TS is just bad rn
  3. I never underrate CN teams . I've been a fan of CN val since the earliest of tournaments which took place in weibo and Huya . Most only got to know about CN teams through the 2nd FGC . Also why u bring DRX in every argument because i alr know they the best . Them beating EDG wont prove anything because KONE(second seed cn ) beat your 2nd best Val team
  4. Keep coping like u always have L Bozo
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JiangLi [#54]

yeah i think they on par mostly . But before LCQ NTH were the favorites because they just play Masters before that . We only got to know later after results but still Meteor stood out a lot in NTH because he was the best

revisionist

before LCQ almost everyone was on the EDG hype train because numerous pro players talked them up.

also Nth being the favourites doesn't matter because in the end it doesn't change anything.

Meteor beat Kangkang in every stat while on a worse team. just no two ways about it.

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revisionist

before LCQ almost everyone was on the EDG hype train because numerous pro players talked them up.

also Nth being the favourites doesn't matter because in the end it doesn't change anything.

Meteor beat Kangkang in every stat while on a worse team. just no two ways about it.

everyone was on the EDG hype train because numerous pro players talked them up

There was hype but very few . Most of it came after their LCQ win . People didnt even care that much about FGC before.
Stats are irrelevant here really at they end they got rolled but i still think meteor is better rifler than kk

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+whz

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Irrelevant after Champs

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  1. EA is not even one entity in valorant . KR , JP are separate since the start . Game isnt even released in China but still their second best team beat all your teams . So dont hide behind EA and say shit like " guys like u hate EA " when people have only shit on people like u who overrate KR teams
  2. No need to tell me DRX better because i alr know they better for now. If u tell me CNJ will beat TS i would believe u because TS is just bad rn
  3. I never underrate CN teams . I've been a fan of CN val since the earliest of tournaments which took place in weibo and Huya . Most only got to know about CN teams through the 2nd FGC . Also why u bring DRX in every argument because i alr know they the best . Them beating EDG wont prove anything because KONE(second seed cn ) beat your 2nd best Val team
  4. Keep coping like u always have L Bozo

Ahahahah keep crying you dumbass. You know east asia will take a dump on ur dogshit sea region. Matter of fact give korea one more year and its goodbye sea

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