nope, val still hasn't developed much after 2 years
these teams throw way too much
I'm not talking about loud and optic specifically
it's just funny how these are the 2 best teams itw and the gameplay is still full of mistakes
ofc not but they don't throw nearly as much
never seen a CS team win dominantly (like LOUD 13-3) on a map and almost lose it after 2 days to the same team