Turkish Val why ???

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valulrantefanboy

Biggest playerbase, have some best talented players in EMEA, but as a team , why so bad ???

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lack of dicipline

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this

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ALL AIM NO BRAIN ??

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lack of great igls

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Alfajer and Cned > BBL roster

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not current cned, old cned yes

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They lost their focus after ascent

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Playing like Na

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NOM fan insulting NA?

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Didn't meant it like hate but It's actually true. That's why eu teams practice against turkey. Game play is so similar. Na just does it better

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fut > bbl thats all
fut is more disciplined team than bbl

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yoooo bruv what did i tell you ?

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i remember that bbl slightly will play better ? idk

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come on dude

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i forgor :skull:

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and they kick paura the only igl that knows how to play the game bruh they are so braindead

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Yeah. For me cyderx is like mixwell can't play val but good at CS

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no no no i don't care about fragging or about cyderx as an individual i'm asking you look at them how they play like a ranked team after paura left, you can't miss that
paura was the only reason they could ever win anything even with his bottom fragging every game

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yeah ur right

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lack of money, you can not keep top tier players with current tr economy

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copium

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tf are you talking about ? they literally kicked paura

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bro he can be a good player but was not at bbl don't compare with him prime times like at smb. he sucked as of both player and igl, and he got kicked, that's it. not everyone can be performed good at every team.

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i don't care about frags when i talk about igling
wdym he sucked as igl? did u watch bbl today?

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i don't talk just about frags, watch some him played matches and look gameplan, look him lurks, look him defence, look him support he was totally garbage 0 benefit nothing different with cyderx

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discipline and also lack of solid mentality.

bbl always lost the first map against emea teams almost leading a win, and 2nd map it's like they don't even play anymore.

they lose an "almost lead to win" because there is no discipline in their game, and they lose 2nd map because they feel like losers after 1st map with no motivation

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i dont know why people are still confused about this,they are all aim no brain region like they were in cs too

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who won the Valorant Regional Leagues 2022 mr.fakeflagger ?

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your point is?

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trola

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full of crack jett main but

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game is not their no1 focus most of the time. playing for paychecks. breaking the gameplan all the time. players think they are the best all the others are shit. skyrocket ego. shit aimers most of the time but they think they are the best.

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they made so much individual mistakes on ascent, man. i wanted them to win 😭

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lack of experience. everyone agreed their aim is better individually but aim is not everything. team play is important in that game, everyone knows that. they shouldn't change any players when they start to lose.

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even their aim in pro matches is shit they ego peek like they're playing against silvers

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thats why we see Aslan drop 40+ in ranked games but when it comes to a pro game he just dies like on second pistol in Icebox he swinged a angle without his gun in his hand

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they're just warm-blooded. it bounds with lack of experience. but yeah, you're definitely right about that. they dont even know what is EMEA yet. they'll be better when they play enough games with the name of EMEA tournaments. needs a bit time.

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i just cannot fathom how a player like aslan who does this for 2 years and have a cracked aim just can't control himself or have his team or coach tell him his mistakes?
like how can u stay so braindead for fucking 2 years and on the same team how?

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i guess they should start sign players like alfajer. he is young, experienced, intelligent and he knows what he should do in the game. he accommodate with his team easily. this should come from the heart. even if he is not experienced enough, he did well with FNATIC. ofc besides that, your team players are important.

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alfajer won't solve their problems tbh

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mbayy

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definitely not, but with that mentality on the team like aslans or aimdlls, they will not do anything against good teams like team liquid. they're just not wanting this adequately. they should care about this more. i dont know if you watched their push to talk videos on youtube. they literally have lack of communicate inside of their team also.

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i tried to watch one i don't remember which one it was but it was recent and on fracture, all i heard was quitioner speaking over everyone and shouting like crazy
anyway i think that's the reason paura left bcz they don't listen

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exactly. the main reason was not paura. i dont know if you know or not but there is also a problem between paura and cyderx. they just argued about who is better IGL in their teams once. and they signed cyderx after paura. i dont think cyderx is better than paura. paura was a man who is well-disciplined.

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i didn't know that, but yeah paura had good experience from EU and as a sentinel which is very important, and he managed to make a team like bbl have some discipline and set plays ans strats

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no dicipline no brain no mental.

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were they successful with paura? whats the matter?

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Ego maybe? Bcoz they are already the best in turkey. And even if they compete in major or not they got so much money. I think they got so much potential but they are all content which outcome can be. This is just my opinion. And no hate to the players and org.

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enri

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I went somewhere and saw they lost 13-1 wtf

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so bad silver