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my grievance with agent classes.

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https://twitter.com/JoshNissan/status/1553580426999914497

tweets like this really makes me wish riot didnt create agent classes. it makes everyone cater to the narrow description of the class, so theres no room for creativity.

e.g. in the description here, it says "(duelists need to) seek out engagements first". it doesnt always have to be that way, a classic example of this is kayo when hes ulting, or chamber who is a "sentinel". there are different ways to play the game and it makes it unfun when you have unspoken rules everyone expects you to adhere to, in game.

another example of this is, the sentinel class

there are so many ways to play sentinel, its insane that the description in the game. that class is probably the most versatile in the game.

you have trips/turret+cam to gain info OR you can use it to hold down sites, yet everyone expects you to just sit on site waiting for the enemy to push in.
New players get into the fixed mindset that everyone is supposed to play the game a certain way, yet you see clearly(from PRX) how well the game can be played when you dont follow the "rules".

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Dybala21
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L

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valulrantefanboy
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i mean , agents like Jett, Neonn Raze have kits that make them much easier to entry than other agents. You can't let Kiljoy Sage or Sova entry because they don't have kits to break opponents settups. Riot create agents that have kits fitted there roles ,and if you play agents way diff than their roles, you make your teams harder to win

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feelsbadboaster
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Stop tryna make excuses for baiting on duelist and git gud scrub

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minte
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they should focus on describing the capabilities and key functions of each agent instead, i'll do an example with Skye

Skye utilizes her Guiding Light to blind enemies' vision, to create space for the team to engage onto plant sites. She also assists teammates with Regrowth, to gain back lost health points. Skye is a strong agent on gaining intelligence on the enemies, using her Trailblazer to clear corners and Seekers to gain key knowledge of where enemies are bound.

Functions:

  • Intelligence gathering
  • Angle clearance
  • Healing

this way newer players aren't restricted to having a certain amount of each role (as there are many agents that are often considered to have mixed roles), and instead focusing on the key functions of each agent - and then combine them to create a good team comp

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valulrantefanboy [#3]

i mean , agents like Jett, Neonn Raze have kits that make them much easier to entry than other agents. You can't let Kiljoy Sage or Sova entry because they don't have kits to break opponents settups. Riot create agents that have kits fitted there roles ,and if you play agents way diff than their roles, you make your teams harder to win

im nitpicking here, but agents like brim, where you dont have to reactivate utilty, are basically duelists after you use up everything. they have nothing else to contribute, (unless you are saving your molly+ult for postplant)

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minte
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XITERR_ [#6]

im nitpicking here, but agents like brim, where you dont have to reactivate utilty, are basically duelists after you use up everything. they have nothing else to contribute, (unless you are saving your molly+ult for postplant)

duelists are agents that take advantage of their utility to create space for the rest of the team to push in their trail, brim without utility is just csgo lol

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feelsbadboaster [#4]

Stop tryna make excuses for baiting on duelist and git gud scrub

I dont play duelists other than raze, the rest is unrated shenanigans.

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minte [#7]

duelists are agents that take advantage of their utility to create space for the rest of the team to push in their trail, brim without utility is just csgo lol

dont underestimate the stimmy pack lol

but also the ideal situation is for your teammates to trade the first person going in, and you can almost do the same with brim. but yeah i do agree duelist are obviously better in that regard.

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yep this is perfect. new players can still loosely follow the functions yet still have the ability to do their own thing.

(replying to above)

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minte [#7]

duelists are agents that take advantage of their utility to create space for the rest of the team to push in their trail, brim without utility is just csgo lol

stim turns him to csgo but fast forward

also brim basically alr csgo cus his kit is mollyand smoke

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