I know this is random but the raze ult is actually so fucking bad for an 8 point ult. It has the radius of a pimple when it literally is a ROCKET LAUNCHER
V0sotros [#4]it takes so much space for free, probably one of the best entry ults in the game, also can be used for delay on post-plants and even to delay pushes on defense, if you utilize it correctly then it's one of the best in the game
This one^
babysasuke [#5]This one^
Most of the time its just used for entrying, which is cool but you're also countered by a jett/kayo/chamber/skye/breach/fade/neon etc. Its super easy to avoid and makes for bad plays usually. Hence why pro play you rarely ever see someone get the kill or even space with it. Kj ult does the exact same thing and is only really countered by 2 of the agents I listed, same orbs too. Her kit is great which is why people use her, but if you're going to make an 8 point ult atleast make it worth your buck.
YouDii [#7]Most of the time its just used for entrying, which is cool but you're also countered by a jett/kayo/chamber/skye/breach/fade/neon etc. Its super easy to avoid and makes for bad plays usually. Hence why pro play you rarely ever see someone get the kill or even space with it. Kj ult does the exact same thing and is only really countered by 2 of the agents I listed, same orbs too. Her kit is great which is why people use her, but if you're going to make an 8 point ult atleast make it worth your buck.
You still bought the space, game isnt all KDA
babysasuke [#9]You still bought the space, game isnt all KDA
What space? Heaven control on split? Hookah control on bind? All these extremity points can be taken with a 300 or 250 dollar ability. It's a situational ult that is easily read by everyone now and can be easily countered.
YouDii [#8]What space? Heaven control on split? Hookah control on bind? All these extremity points can be taken with a 300 or 250 dollar ability. It's a situational ult that is easily read by everyone now and can be easily countered.
Upfragging yourself and downvoting me doesnt make you right or not silver
Take your L and move on
babysasuke [#11]Upfragging yourself and downvoting me doesnt make you right or not silver
Take your L and move on
I dont upfrag shit, stop clowning yourself
YouDii [#8]What space? Heaven control on split? Hookah control on bind? All these extremity points can be taken with a 300 or 250 dollar ability. It's a situational ult that is easily read by everyone now and can be easily countered.
you are carving an entire portion of the map by yourself that usually would have taken about 3-4 agents to take with their own abilities, you clearly don't understand how entrying works
V0sotros [#10]you are carving an entire portion of the map by yourself that usually would have taken about 3-4 agents to take with their own abilities, you clearly don't understand how entrying works
He's silver, just let him stay hardstuck
babysasuke [#14]He's silver, just let him stay hardstuck
at least silvers understand what an entry is, this is literal iron tier commentary from him
V0sotros [#11]at least silvers understand what an entry is, this is literal iron tier commentary from him
You literally dont watch any pro play do you, how often do you actually see a raze ult, by itself, take an entire site, this is literally a silver game you're talking about
YouDii [#13]You literally dont watch any pro play do you, how often do you actually see a raze ult, by itself, take an entire site, this is literally a silver game you're talking about
What I'm saying is that Raze takes the initial space by herself, and then that gives far more room for the second entries to utilize than any normal combination of utility would be able to