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even with monsterr being mechanically better than kiles, ACEND's old lineup was better as a team and had more potential.
what do you guys that think?

I wish they had just replaced Kiles with Monsteerr and had kept Bonecold. They look so disjointed currently. And yeah Kiles had clear role in Acend so it worked well, Monsteerr will need some time.

I think other teams got way better (mainly fnatic, fpx and guild). I think monsterr has been playing great but its hard to say if it will be enough to break in the top 3 again

Monsteeer is a clear upgrade, I think he performed the best in acend atm, the problem is that they are clearly missing bonecold calling and rely a lot on playing a puggy style with lots of reliance on gunskill(which they have plenty of) kinda like G2, its up to NBS to estabilish a good leadership in the team and make them better tactically, if he manages to turn Vakk into a great caller like he did with bonecold this team has na insanely high ceiling imo

DaDoar [#4]

Monsteeer is a clear upgrade, I think he performed the best in acend atm, the problem is that they are clearly missing bonecold calling and rely a lot on playing a puggy style with lots of reliance on gunskill(which they have plenty of) kinda like G2, its up to NBS to estabilish a good leadership in the team and make them better tactically, if he manages to turn Vakk into a great caller like he did with bonecold this team has na insanely high ceiling imo

I agree I think it is mostly gonna be on how vakk's calling develops

i really wanna know what the difference in their "vision for the team" was with bonecold

Acend old lineup was together for so long, with this lineup they only had 4 matches.
Personally i didn't understand removing Bonecold but sticking to the past won't help to the team or fans. After koldamenta left Acend never had real igl, bonecold tried to adapt to the role and he did a great job. We still don't know how will vakk do but i think he will also do good.

patuj [#2]

I wish they had just replaced Kiles with Monsteerr and had kept Bonecold. They look so disjointed currently. And yeah Kiles had clear role in Acend so it worked well, Monsteerr will need some time.

yep vakk is a goos player but bonecold was a better fit for the team

GLN321 [#3]

I think other teams got way better (mainly fnatic, fpx and guild). I think monsterr has been playing great but its hard to say if it will be enough to break in the top 3 again

i don't think so honestly i really feel like they lost their playstyle

no_noise_979 [#6]

i really wanna know what the difference in their "vision for the team" was with bonecold

me too

I think the best possible Acend would’ve been keeping Bonecold but replacing Kiles with Monsterr, the team under Bonecold’s IGLing was peak ACE imo, but the current roster is still far from their skill ceiling so we just gotta give them some time to develop

We can only wait and see

frake_monster [#7]

Acend old lineup was together for so long, with this lineup they only had 4 matches.
Personally i didn't understand removing Bonecold but sticking to the past won't help to the team or fans. After koldamenta left Acend never had real igl, bonecold tried to adapt to the role and he did a great job. We still don't know how will vakk do but i think he will also do good.

Cloud9 old lineup was together for so long, with this lineup they only had 4 matches.
Personally i didn't understand removing Xeta but sticking to the past won't help the team or fans. After Xeta left Cloud9 they struggled throughout group stage, Vanity tried to adapt to the role and he did a poor job. We still don't know how will Curry do but i think he will also do good.

SourceAvocado [#13]

Cloud9 old lineup was together for so long, with this lineup they only had 4 matches.
Personally i didn't understand removing Xeta but sticking to the past won't help the team or fans. After Xeta left Cloud9 they struggled throughout group stage, Vanity tried to adapt to the role and he did a poor job. We still don't know how will Curry do but i think he will also do good.

acend still beat g2 lol cloud 9 nosedived

SourceAvocado [#13]

Cloud9 old lineup was together for so long, with this lineup they only had 4 matches.
Personally i didn't understand removing Xeta but sticking to the past won't help the team or fans. After Xeta left Cloud9 they struggled throughout group stage, Vanity tried to adapt to the role and he did a poor job. We still don't know how will Curry do but i think he will also do good.

Probably C9 players affected a lot from xetas leaving, they werent expecting and were really a good team in NA. Now with curry they can still make it out but need to believe in the process. I believe eventually they will remove some players but lets see