They should only get 2 slots. No hate
Btw no one asked.
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ChuCelsius [#6]sometimes to make something grow, it needs more opportunities!
Agreed. But 2 is more than enough.
VGG [#10]Vietnam deserved 3 slot
Both NA Master MVP are from Vietnamese Descendants
Africa should get +100 slots because we all originated from there
This stuff is absurd
Vietnam top-3 didn't change between stages, Cerberus, Fancy, Baam will get more points than some stronger teams who didn't make it to APAC once (Full Sense, Secret, No Namers)
Imagine these VN teams go to LCQ and Full Sense doesn't
This system benefits weak region farmers and doesn't benefit competitive leagues like Thailand, Indonesia
Olofboost [#15]This stuff is absurd
Vietnam top-3 didn't change between stages, Cerberus, Fancy, Baam will get more points than some stronger teams who didn't make it to APAC once (Full Sense, Secret, No Namers)
Imagine these VN teams go to LCQ and Full Sense doesn't
This system benefits weak region farmers and doesn't benefit competitive leagues like Thailand, Indonesia
This. Tho I don't want to get downvoted so i gonna calm myself down.
simurgh [#16]This. Tho I don't want to get downvoted so i gonna calm myself down.
Who cares if you get downvoted, everybody should feel free to share opinions
simurgh [#16]This. Tho I don't want to get downvoted so i gonna calm myself down.
Everyone agrees on this one except Riot
Olofboost [#15]This stuff is absurd
Vietnam top-3 didn't change between stages, Cerberus, Fancy, Baam will get more points than some stronger teams who didn't make it to APAC once (Full Sense, Secret, No Namers)
Imagine these VN teams go to LCQ and Full Sense doesn't
This system benefits weak region farmers and doesn't benefit competitive leagues like Thailand, Indonesia
This is true
Elcatsu [#20]then thailand should get 2 also if that's enough
Compare Thailand results in SEA/APAC/World to Vietnam results in SEA/APAC/World
Now think again
Elcatsu [#20]then thailand should get 2 also if that's enough
Then SA and OCE should also get 3 if that's not enough
Elcatsu [#20]then thailand should get 2 also if that's enough
What??? We have 3 slots and all of them made it to the playoff. Da hell are you talking about.
simurgh [#23]What??? We have 3 slots and all of them made it to the playoff. Da hell are you talking about.
if they are strong with only 2 then there's nothing to worry about thailand having 2 slots
Elcatsu [#24]if they are strong with only 2 then there's nothing to worry about thailand having 2 slots
They are not.
Elcatsu [#24]if they are strong with only 2 then there's nothing to worry about thailand having 2 slots
wut?????
simurgh [#16]This. Tho I don't want to get downvoted so i gonna calm myself down.
dw, everyone will agree with you
Elcatsu [#24]if they are strong with only 2 then there's nothing to worry about thailand having 2 slots
Think of it this way, if all 3 teams of Thailand can beat the number 1 team of Vietnam fairly dominantly, why should Thailand lose a spot for being strong? Its like making Europe or NA have only 1 team because they are the strongest. Yes having more teams from a region will grow them more, but in SEA where teams already scrim around alot since we are all nearby, giving Vietnam ( a region that has not proven itself at all tbh ) the same amount of privilege as other 3 Slots competitors is like throwing meat at a wall and hoping it sticks.
This is not Korea or Japan where the only edge a team can get over everyone else is through international experience, SEA have more than enough teams and international experience divided around each other to spread that experience / level of plays around as weaker teams will have to adjust themselves or be forcefully pulled up by those scrims
ChuCelsius [#6]sometimes to make something grow, it needs more opportunities!
holy fuck the logic these people have man
Alovant [#29]Think of it this way, if all 3 teams of Thailand can beat the number 1 team of Vietnam fairly dominantly, why should Thailand lose a spot for being strong? Its like making Europe or NA have only 1 team because they are the strongest. Yes having more teams from a region will grow them more, but in SEA where teams already scrim around alot since we are all nearby, giving Vietnam ( a region that has not proven itself at all tbh ) the same amount of privilege as other 3 Slots competitors is like throwing meat at a wall and hoping it sticks.
This is not Korea or Japan where the only edge a team can get over everyone else is through international experience, SEA have more than enough teams and international experience divided around each other to spread that experience / level of plays around as weaker teams will have to adjust themselves or be forcefully pulled up by those scrims
True
Alovant [#29]Think of it this way, if all 3 teams of Thailand can beat the number 1 team of Vietnam fairly dominantly, why should Thailand lose a spot for being strong? Its like making Europe or NA have only 1 team because they are the strongest. Yes having more teams from a region will grow them more, but in SEA where teams already scrim around alot since we are all nearby, giving Vietnam ( a region that has not proven itself at all tbh ) the same amount of privilege as other 3 Slots competitors is like throwing meat at a wall and hoping it sticks.
This is not Korea or Japan where the only edge a team can get over everyone else is through international experience, SEA have more than enough teams and international experience divided around each other to spread that experience / level of plays around as weaker teams will have to adjust themselves or be forcefully pulled up by those scrims
if that's the case then why give sa a slot
Olofboost [#15]This stuff is absurd
Vietnam top-3 didn't change between stages, Cerberus, Fancy, Baam will get more points than some stronger teams who didn't make it to APAC once (Full Sense, Secret, No Namers)
Imagine these VN teams go to LCQ and Full Sense doesn't
This system benefits weak region farmers and doesn't benefit competitive leagues like Thailand, Indonesia
No one cares you dumbass. The best teams will qualify out of APAC either way. You need to get it through your thick skull that Riot will always care more about representation. If you don’t like it you can just to back to cs and watch EU get 50 slots for every tournament.
hekzy [#14]Also almost all BR/LATAM/NA players are european descendants so EMEA gets +50 spots
Maybe but they are not MVP
Elcatsu [#33]if that's the case then why give sa a slot
SA have 2 slots, which furthers add to my point. SA is a region that while have alot of potential cause like i mean your just look at them, 1.4bil population and most pc fps players in SA play valorant, so while they are still fairly weak now, if they get that PRX-esque team ( in terms of dominance ) , it will most likely propel them into relevancy never seen before for the region in esports.
Vietnam which is roughly on the same level as SA have 1 more slots, which does not make much sense when u have 1 slot region like OCE who would need it more as they are far away from mainland SEA, meaning they need that 1 slot much, much more than Vietnam ( as they will gain experience from it and return to OCE stronger and hopefully pass that along ).
Tamag0 [#35]That's not gonna happen, VN is Riot #1 market in APAC (SEA, OCE, SA)
In league or in val
Victorie [#36]No one cares you dumbass. The best teams will qualify out of APAC either way. You need to get it through your thick skull that Riot will always care more about representation. If you don’t like it you can just to back to cs and watch EU get 50 slots for every tournament.
Are you capable of understanding how bad this distribution is?
Full Sense get nothing but 17th-20th places in APAC get >20 points?
I didn't even bring EU/CSGO into conversation, chill out and take some fresh air
Respect other people with whom you're having conversation, instead of going full zombie mode and throwing random slurs
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