dude ka_rie is a psychopath bc what are these messages

they’re literally saving strats; like that’s usually cope but they aren’t gonna showcase their actual comps for a tournament outside the circuit.

okay but there it is again, i understand legally not being able to openly disclose everything, but if you expect anyone to believe you have to provide evidence. this is just hearsay atp.

so instead of creating a thread to say i was right, you should be working on compiling evidence and proving your case. I want to believe you, i really do. but it’s just the nature of evidence

yeah bro is somehow making someone’s fucking rape accusation about “I WAS RIGHT SHE IS A BITCH” to get internet brownie points on a valorant forum.

exactly. acting with information and withholding that to have a “gotcha moment” is fucking moronic and he’s acting like he’s the messiah now.

i mean obviously i was incorrect because of evidence that was then provided, i wasn’t going to just blatantly agree with someone without evidence. That doesn’t mean that I can’t reflect and alter my opinion, and I still stand by Brick first and foremost. At the time a vast majority of hatred towards flor was because of her identity which was difficult to parse from legitimate criticism of her character. And there is still no evidence from you on the matter only cryptic mentions. I believe Brick, not you. And I will trust the documents florescent provided over an anonymous VLR user any day of the week.

i think because at that point what is even the point of this whole thing, if both sides could have altered texts, and word is hearsay, then literally not a shroud of evidence can be trusted and this becomes a “She said, they said”.

none of their statements seem genuine, so i am going only on the basis of the messages and digital evidence both provided in their own documents. I don’t believe flor is changed, and truly she needs help and should not compete, but there has also been clear other parties involved that deserve the same scrutiny. And you operating under other pretenses without presenting them makes things difficult. Obviously, if you have more damning info than other people and that proves your point then ofc it’ll be more believable, but just saying you have evidence is not the same as providing it.

flor isn’t calling brick a liar with no evidence though, yet again need to reiterate both are wrong and flor is definitely more wrong, but it is also clear that Brick lied about the way certain events unfolded. The truth is there’s still just not enough information.

yeah i just think it’s hard to say definitively either way rn tbh. too much is being omitted and the fact that Brick’s statement is through someone who in their own words has threatened and stalked them makes everything super fucking confusing

this i agree with and is clearly the main argument. But also claiming her entire thing as manipulating and deception seems disingenuous, she did provide receipts of both the stalking and proof of no implicitly denied consent, which leaves it in a murky situation if we will never be able to know the nature of the SA because it was long ago and both were minors. Flor and Brick and Karie need help and none should be competing, but the investigation is still ongoing.

yeah it’s def murky though because from karie’s account of bricks account it was a clear disregard of consent not a lack of continually applied consent. So this disproved her actively disregarding non-requested and non-consensual sex, but still does not disprove the SA because regardless consent is a constant thing

frankly i’m on the side of minors need to stop fucking edating and both of them are just weird. I want to believe flor but it just needs more evidence, same goes for Brick. the messages about Karie though are real rough which sucks cus i liked her on dart monkeys.

tf goin on in here

okay but the real thing i gathered from this document is that Karie is a fucking psycho. Both flor and brick were in the right and wrong, but fuckin hell Karie is like satan in this shit

just woke up and we go 0-3????

29 kills with 11 FB is crazy

I have some by region (not all are ROTY but depending on runs could do so and def show hella promise regardless)

China:
all of XLG - YOU/Mart1n/Viva
slowly
Ezeir (MOST SLEPT ON PLAYER IN VCT)
SpiritZ1
Juicy

EMEA:
Kaajak
Cyv0ph
Minny
Avez

PAC:
Patmen
Killua (biased)
Hyunmin
Ash
Akame
Kushy

AMERICAS:
Cortezia
Verno
Skuba
Sato
luk_xo
v1c

MIBR sweep, also please Wolves win it would be so fucking funny

mibr and blg should win ngl

yeah i wish but probably won’t happen i could see maybe lucas

Will they play with Mart1n or find a new player

losing to time up 10-2 this team wants to throw

it’s 9-0 who gives a fuck

FNC out here saving with fucking 8650 and 6600 credits up 9-0

they’re never winning

kaajak i was wrong abt u

S0yf

if they had better calling and coaching they’d be fine, don’t know why mfs thought the TSM coach would be good for a superteam

29-9 is absurd

marteen doing an OXY cosplay

winner of C9/100T faces EG for qualification spot, lower bracket qualifying faces MIBR

least reactionary vlr user after two games played

can’t believe they threw that game

nah bros forgetting Brawktagon

generational choking occurring

dude is not hitting those on LAN (also Skuba lowkey sold three rounds but it’s aight he carried yesterday)

21-2 is ludicrous

damn palla jet lag debuff

without their full roster btw

Seeing a lot of people disregarding the vidtim entirely and just saying “ofc flor is a rapist she’s trans”, which is both idiotic and harmful towards the victim. Yall don’t actually give a fuck about who flor raped you just are happy your hatred is now justified. The same people hating on flor are sinatraa truthers when the reality is they’re both vile and deserve jailtime regardless of gender. Rapists will rape regardless of their identity that has nothing to do with it. Heading off vlr cus ik that yall aren’t going to be civil and caring towards the victim and just perpetuating transphobia. Let me make this clear: GC was always not just for women, trans women ARE women, lesbians can rape and be raped, this is not an indictment on trans women it’s an indictment on Flor. I despise flor with all my being for making this something that needs to be said but you can support the victim without being a righteous cunt.

Flor you’re a fucking monster and have set trans and women’s rights in gaming back to square zero. Heart goes out to the victim that shit I read was nauseating. Never trust your heroes I can’t believe i supported a monster like that. She had everything going for her and she turns out to be this piece of shit

ik it’s only for EWC but tbh not a horrific roster, excited for palla and basic though (although siduzord over urango was def the better choice overall idk why they didn’t go for him)

streamer orgs are cursed by facing cheaters first malibu now sym

gotta see attack but this shit COOKS

she’s just as good as simon, he’s yet to play a tier one match EWC doesn’t count but he’s going to be very good undeniably, and i haven’t seen their stuff but i don’t interact with glazers bc tbh they’re relatively harmless and idc about them

hate kamo and pati succeedint

Apeks duelists are cursed bro free them

ur obsessed bro both are good, Simon is a demon but doesn’t mean flor is bad

holy aura from sgares