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You could place them all in the "Slavs" category, because Starxo/Zeek are west-Slavs, as is Kiles. Even if nAts/sheydos are not Slavs, you still have at least two Slavs on each winning team๐
Inb4 ... Oh, you got me talking ... But be aware, braincells will be challenged.
there's a reason vlr/spike rating is used to judge players.
Yes, and thank you for bringing that up but I am well aware of that already.
However, there are a couple of considerations to keep in mind.
However, the above should not imply that such models will always paint the exact representations of all the scenarios that there're in the gameplay. At times, the game presents players with specific events that these models are kind of not accounting for - yet, rating scores still do a great job in painting enough of the overall picture, I'd say.
The thing is, though... and it's important to acknowledge that each platform, whether it's VLR, THESPIKE, or RIB, has its own interpretation of said RATING model. And no, they are not the same! I encourage you to pay attention to this aspect, as there are numerous occasions where we might require just the estimator as a coefficient for a more comprehensive solutions, whether it pertains to our strategic planning or any form of optimization we aim to achieve - it is simply more handy to have one such value in form of a rating score than to re-do all of the estimations from the start every time we wish to apply certain scenario to look at (the data could be damn huge, and is often as such).
Yet, with all certainty, I do believe ACS is the most important indicator (a compound one) in the game VALORANT, and it exists for the obvious reasons --> AVERAGE COMBAT SCORE. The scale used to assess all of the remaining indicators (also important ones) and their RELEVANCE in connection to ACS, on the other hand, is not particularly broad. I'll even argue that we could use floating measures to compare how a certain play is played out in relation to what score one receives from it - there's simply too much intricacy and ways to do it โ weโre so digging too deep into the forest here.
Another --> However, in general terms, we may just state that ACS is just marginally more relevant than the next down when it comes to reaching certain conclusions... and I mean conclusion because ACS is your typical score for the playerโs impact that theyโd provided in the game - not less or more, ffs, LET ALONE THAT ACS IS ACTUALLY THE MAIN ESTIMATOR OF ALL OTHER IMPORTANT INDICATORS IN THE GAME - if that was not clear enough already. ADR is not less significant, but it is somewhat covered in ACS - not precisely as you may imagine, though. Yet, on some occasions, you'd be better off by looking at ADR (for example, in the case of support agents) in isolation or in conjunction with ACS, or simply straight both ADR/ACS together to draw conclusions +ofc our very loved and additional other factors to analyse shit further - ain't that easy here in the multi-dimensional realm, I'd say.
Finally, the important bit: All of them are INTERCONNECTED and are considered at various stages, often in combination with one another. There isn't a definitive right or wrong way to approach this, but rather through a comprehensive and inclusive way โ donโt lock your MENTAL CAPACITY, else braindead condition will get you.
In reality, comparing his numbers on Jett to other top duellists by acs, he still falls short (and the top ones also have higher ratings)
You're blending different things together. If my intention was to compare Ardiis to other Jett players, I would have created a balanced chart encompassing all Jetts, irrespective of my personal feelings toward the players I'm comparing with Ardiis. We can eliminate that possibility because I'm making an effort to avoid presenting a weak argument from my end - I am not an unfounded Ulrich, and I'm also ensuring objectivity.
"his kj looked good by the end of the year but the only duelist he can really play is jett and he isn't a top duelist on her. I would say he was the third or fourth best NRG player this year, with crashies being the fifth since his only truly good performance was in americas playoffs."
Once more, I hold a different viewpoint, and I've provided you with the comprehensive table displaying Ardiis' performance across all stages. Such discussions demand a more thorough analysis, which I haven't observed from your end yet (though I might be offering some encouragement here, perhaps?). Additionally, there's a rationale behind evaluating all four stages of the year as a whole rather than just selecting a few specific ones โ this approach offers a yearly perspective on Ardiis' performance, and that was my primary intention here.
Moving forward, I've omitted a substantial portion of text where I elaborated on the impact of APR on individual players and teams as a whole, along with the reasons for frequently evaluating APR to reach conclusions... but F-it, I won't include that in here as we're getting way ahead with all of this.
Regarding yourself, I would hope that next time you'd refrain from immediately resorting to insults - either before or after a discussion. The simple reason behind this is that if we were to consistently insult each other, then such conversations would become a cycle of insults without any constructive engagement โ which defeats the purpose of meaningful interaction. I tend to believe that when someone engages in a dialogue, it's likely because they're curious to learn about some information or knowledge they might have missed, right? Now imagine I am saying all of this considering the fact that you haven't presented anything substantial to counter the point of mine; instead, you appear to lack a substantial depth - but who am I kidding here... as you would never read to this point, so whatever BS I wrote... -> LMAO
Oh, and nearly overlooked the following --> it's worth mentioning that I haven't claimed to be complete correct in my observations either, but kudos to you for raising some interesting points? Gday ๐
Sorry for the WALL of text ahead... I just had to put it with some respect for the discussed players etc.
I must disagree with you on your point... But I don't see it to be too much out of reality. It's just simply I've been following those players since CIS-FIRST-STRIKE, if not before, and have slightly different view. Back in the days, I just preferred CIS/NAin general, since they were quicker to reveal a lot of their available talent - simply excess of talent in both regions IMHO... back in the day.
Those players, whether it Stimx, Anq, or Winteryrook, or others who are not discussed, have been simply left behind owing to the region's excessive talent pool. They are for sure aren't any weaker than Derke, Cl0ud, Shao, or anybody else for that matter, and have shown it on numerous occassions. Frankly through some ways of assessing, I'd tell that they have a strong chance of winning tier-S trophies, and becoming recognised S TIER player - if only they had been chosen to play for one of the top orgs before. It's just some had been giving opportunity, while others were left behind. And, as we all know, getting to that TOP team is the only thing that matters.
So, here we are, ultimately, since, with the collapse of CIS, I am not sure how many organizations are even looking into those players - CIS. And, for the time being, their only option is to compete in invitationals or specific leagues at whatever level they can find in order to stay relevant and in shape, in case some top-tier organization invites them to the trials, right? Whilst others were accepted, and some are presently playing for some organizations such as GEEKAY/NASR or one of Chinese teams (Tian), but others have yet to find a team to help them progress. Such is the reality, unfortunately -- but the HOPE is still there.
And to add... IMHO, It will never be too clear who fits in TOP tier teams and who doesn't, unless we see how they perform in trials or whatever scrims, and it's a very complicated topic to say the least, as say scouts too must to explain one's capacity and dig deep enough so that they could justify answering to set objectives by the org -- the topic is so vast that truly comprehending it will take pages and pages to even begin justifying of bringing someone from lower tiers - though overall expenses on S TIER players could be a good reason (and they are) to start searching fresh talents out there, and regardless of where, but not at the expense of the potential of them to perform equally as explained by the scout. <-- also a good share of trust goes with this.
At the end of the day, those listed and many more players from different regions do have the talent,and are on alert for the opportunity - imho should be given then... However, I am not in charge of making such calls. Yet, I can only raise awareness since I believe we've reached a weird point in EMEA/NA Valorant that is causing more than already evident stagnation... some bizarre time of indecisions with terrible calls from orgs and so on... But one simply need to look no further than how brilliantly Chinese region and Evil Geniuses have grown up, in the recent year or so, to see that the perfect opportunity/possibility of making things happen for any seeking advantage org still do exist --> btw, I don't recall anyone counting any of China/EG players, except for maybe Ethan, as S TIER material, back in the days, and that is, if we were to assess their teams by the VLR/HLTV standards - yet, both China/EG have proved everyone wrong ... The community is wrong not for the first time, and it will remain so <-- I mean, you already know this.
I will add the below just for those who are interested in studying those listed player. The process takes more stages but it could be a good start to begin here.
Stimx:
vs. Suygetsu/FORZE (Later... Forze won the CIS First Strike)
vs. Trexx
Early unlucko for Stimx vs. First Srtike CIS Finalists who later - kicked out Gambit to get to the Finals (after... Forze won First Strike CIS)
vs. solid OBG later winning the small tourney)
Anq:
vs. B1sk (performance tab)
vs. Finalists GMT - b01
vs. Finals Winner Dsyre - b01
Rinascimento: Relegation Final
Winteryrook:
b01 vs. sibeastw0w
vs. Derke/Cl0ud from back in the days
again vs. Derke/Cl0ud from back in the days
vs. Trexx - the match was CRACKED asf
Watasink/sibeastw0w
EMG Series
I haven't included any SimonD4rk/Anoxai matches, but anybody who is interested can look them up in the same way as above.
And some STATS in spoiler, of course:
TEAM PLAYER Agent RND KDA ACS ADR FK% FD%
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MCAST Stimx Jett 993 1.62 259 165 23 17
MCAST Stimx Raze 559 1.63 261 171 19 17
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OTPLD Anq Jett 234 1.3 279 184 24 15 <-- Rinascimento: Relegation
OTPLD Anq Jett 2058 1.4 244 156 20 16
OTPLD Anq Raze 163 1.7 268 176 15 12
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GEEKAY Winteryrook Raze 1655 1.57 267 171 21 17
GEEKAY Winteryrook Sage 1995 1.56 230 151 12 11
GEEKAY Winteryrook KAYO 1986 1.92 229 149 10 8
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NASR sibeastw0w Jett 2089 1.47 248 159 21 15
NASR sibeastw0w Raze 1033 1.70 284 186 21 15
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TBD SimonD4rk Jett 2598 1.42 247 158 22 16
TBD SimonD4rk Raze 1378 1.60 265 173 21 14
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LAND watasink Jett 887 1.35 246 153 18 15
LAND watasink Raze 711 1.43 256 171 18 16
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THZ Anoxai Jett 2757 1.4 243 158 22 16
THZ Anoxai Raze 880 1.5 251 173 19 16
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St. Petersburg Governor's Cup Valorant - Superfinal 2023
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MIX Anq Jett 76 .... 275 166 21 26
THZ Anoxai Jett/Raze 254 .... 272 175 29 14
5SMOKES SimonD4rk Jett/Raze 65 .... 267 189 18 15
MCAST watasink Jett/Raze 70 .... 253 175 13 7
MCAST stimx Jett/Raze 70 .... 240 170 24 13
Ediit: Fixed Anoxai's stats, in the spoiler, of ACS/ADR - they were mistakenly swapped
Well, maybe they're just preparing some warm gbye article but don't quote me on that.
Oh, pardon me, babeZ... for hammering that yappery yip FAรADE of yours --> remind me to hit it EXTRA hard next time ๐
The LIST of SHAME:
D3ffo isn't too bad of an option ... but I'd look into some other prospects such as Stimx, sibeastw0w, SimonD4rk, Winteryrook, Anq, Tian, and/or similarly talented players, if they are planning to bring any....
All of those listed are absolute BEASTS of players.
Before the topic fades away completely, I had to mention ะฐ couple of things about some player and their NRG escapades.
First and foremost, Ardiis was not NRG's second, third, fourth, or fifth worst player... aye, I f-ing mean it.
TM PLAYER RND ACS K:D ADR KPR APR FKPR FDPR FKPR-FDPR K D A FK FD
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NRG ardiis 1437 222 1.08 146 0.75 0.24 0.18 0.14 0.05 1072 990 339 259 194
NRG Victor 1437 213 1.0 137 0.73 0.29 0.12 0.11 0.01 1057 989 413 178 162
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NRG s0m 1437 202 1.1 130 0.75 0.39 0.08 0.07 0.01 1076 928 554 111 102
NRG crashies 1437 196 1.1 128 0.70 0.40 0.06 0.06 0.00 996 925 569 86 93
NRG FiNESSE 1437 177 0.8 120 0.57 0.33 0.08 0.08 0.00 816 997 477 109 118
And with the above table ... some of the important AVERAGE stats from the same stages Ardiis and NRG has competed in ... that's to help us to distinguish the MIDness that actually lies exactly below the DASHED line in the above table ๐:
ACS 194 (+/-28)
ADR 127 (+/-18)
FKPR 0.1 (+/-0.05)
FDPR 0.1 (+/-0.05)
APR 0.3 (+/-0.12)
And of course, the achievements board for such a "GREAT TEAM":
LOCK//IN 5th-8th
TOKYO_MASTERS 4th
AMERICAS 2nd
Champions_2023 9th-12th
VERDICT: NRG was nothing more but a pathetic squad of ASSisters and not even the CHAD ones like Ethan who would clear in a blink of an eye and more. And of course, it is important to mention that with help from such great talent such as VICTOR - perhaps the only TRUE PLAYER who had remained from the old ENVY-OPTIC team, and who is also so unjustly underrated by many on here... the BUNCH got a bit TOO CONFIDENT, forgetting the fact that they'd abandoned two of their BEST players before transitioning to NRG - YAY and MarveD, who by the way, earned them the trophy.
So, to prevent any further goat scaping in Ardiss' regard, as some BRAINDEADS are good at...
Those players in the corresponding table who are placed below the DASHED line ("- - - - - -") are a highly ORDINARY to BAD bunch of players... and considering the depth of NA's pool, should not even BE in teams that ought to be regarded decent in the first place, let alone in those teams who win trophies. PERIOD.
Absolutely nothing RARE here... you can expect from any brands who use a simply modified but generic firmware for their products ... There is a reason why a lot of $$$ spent in R&D at Logitech, Razer, ... etc.
To be honest, any pro should know to stick to products that are more or less stable and have proven to be stable ... Chronicle, for example, used a very fine Vaxee XE wireless mouse and, before that, a Razer Deathadder V3 pro... he also used the perfect mouse - log superlight, if I am not mistaken (maybe wrong here).
Your hunny bun James is merely a soft hunny bun, when compared to such greatness like Michael HIS AIRNESS Jordan. Like seriously, it takes a pretty stupid person to even consider comparing Mike to some kid from the block LMAO. Kid James would not even last a single playoff game against the likes of the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden during Jordan's heyday, let alone win one LMAO... and I'm not even bringing in the Utah Jazz, and Detroit Pistons in their primes --- Jordan played them all to WIN.
But hey, you make it look like you know a thing or two about the ball game... Well no, you don't, and of course, let me show you what you've missed so far <--- YOU JUST CAN'T BE OBJECTIVE AND RESPECTFUL enough TO BELIEVE that were much and much BETTER BALL PLAYERS IN OTHER TIMES.
Player Jordan James
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Games 1072 1421
Seasons 13 20 <--- Mike'd played nearly twice as less seasons
PTS 30.1 27.2
TRB 6.2 7.5
AST 5.3 7.3
FG% 49.7 50.5
FT% 83.5 73.5
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Champion 6 4 <--- Jordan's 46% chance of winning the ring >>> James a mere 20% - GTFO of here!
Finals MVP 6 4 <--- Say what? Again, Jordan's 46% chance of claiming Finals MVP >>> 20% of James.
MVP (season) 10 4 <--- Not even... Actually, Ffs, 77% Jordan >>> pathetic 20% of James chance of MVP.
Scoring Champion 10 1 <--- Just LMAO! Jordan's 77% vs. 5% of James. GTFO of here! Like really GTFO.
NBA Slam Dunk W 2 0 <--- Oh, I guess somebody can also dunk better, right? inb4: Carter >>>>>>> James
NCAA Champion 1 0 <--- Bronny did not attend college to begin with (no probs - not judging)
Net Worth (Billions) $2 $1 <--- Say what? MJ owns 2x Lebron "The Brick" James... Holyyy - OWNED!
More like LeChoke James <--- seriously, you should know what I am talking about.
And the verdict:
Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James <-- and not even close to Mike!
Seriously, and jokes aside, if LeBron ever wants to surpass Mike's excellence, he needs to work harder. Maybe he could still do that - in his next life, of course.
P.S. Basically, GTFO!
EDIT: Fixed - mistakenly swapped the "NET WORTH" values.
You don't need Ardiis when you have such a great player as s0m whose lightweight could allow him to easily stand on that desk... if only NRG-Chet-Pujan had enough CAPACITY to realise that they could have kept (and don't ask me how) MarveD and put s0m on Jett, and really, quit pursuing that never ending golden "s0m" goose in smoker form LMAO... then perhaps we could reasonably state that, s0m had been the one to be applauded and PRAISED greatly... but no, it never happened. Similarly, like NOTHING EVER happened to C9 in Valorant but a failure.
NVM, NA orgs are striking once more - a never ending story.
Holyyy ๐ฅ
Ethan earned it, and I'm pleased he finally got it.
It was difficult to root for any side because both PRX and EG deserved to win the championship IMHO... GG
No, unfortunately, c0m is not looking better than shao. c0m is good in his own right, but the numbers you provided do not appear to be full.
Player 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 || Tot-Attempts RND
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Shao 50% 19% 3% || 750 2018
C0m 50% 18% 2% || 681 4478
cl0ud 50% 15% 4% 2% 2% || 393 3735
Boaster 50% 13% 5% || 482 3590
Ethan 50% 12% 1% 1% 1% || 711 2365
Tot-Attempts - all of the attempts (1v1-1v5)
RND - total rounds played (sample)
You can get current data directly off Tracker, right?
1. PACIFIC: 4,052,477 - 38%
2. EU: 3,467,304 - 33%
3. AMERICAS: 3,129,297 - 29%
Oh, and a quick glimpse at the Champ's participants:
USA 24
South Korea 17
China 17
Turkey 9
Russia 9
Japan 8
Sweden 8
Brazil 6
UK 4
Canada 4
... <-- sorry, didn't get all of the participants' numbers but sure there are more from Americas.
The difference seems to be insignificant as Americas < EU < PACIFIC ---> the DIFFs are around 0 < +5% < +9%
Oh, you could just say that the incapable EG team in terms of competitiveness has turned into a hell of a monster of a team that is more than capable of shaking up anyone today (pun not intended)
While not everyone doubted Potter, a significant portion of the community did, for one reason or another. However, she proved her critics wrong, as her vision turned out to be nicely aligned with reaching set objective for the org.... I mean, even using the term โprovedโฆโ here might be a stretch, as the only ones she really owes any proof to are those who believed/invested in her vision from the very beginning and throughout time - great job EG.
While trust/hope dies last, there is still objective to reach - the trophy. In a perfect scenario, won trophies will only add towards completing that "GOAT" status journey IMHO - looks like EG is already not far from that. Having mentioned the perfect scenario, however, I still believe we could already put Potter amongst the best of the professionals of Valorant scene today - without the doubt.
Aside from the GOAT status chase, it is crucial to note that EG's invitational/VCT performances thus far show that the team's important aspects (C0M...etc) have grown well, and there looks to be more opportunity for growth, which also nicely speaks volumes about EG's competent management - committed and hard working members... Matched with Potter's already established vision, and a combined effort of the players, it's quite possible EG will continue to grow and improve, or simply put, it should be their objective after the tournament, as teams will be catching up - very curious to see how thing will go from then for them IMHO.
ALL-TIME TOP for SERIES (89+ kills) ... Only S-TIER b05 (Grand/Lower) FINALS
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| TEAM PLAYER W/L VS. KILLS DIFF KMAX RND || BEST-MAP ACS/BEST-MAP |
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| EG Demon1 W vs. LOUD 101 +20 26 105 || Lotus 297 |
| EG Demon1 W vs. PRX 99 +29 28 109 || Ascent 353 |
| LOUD Less L vs. FNC 98 +20 24 110 || Icebox 292 |
| LOUD aspas L vs. EG 95 +14 30 105 || Split 378 |
| PRX jinGGG L vs. FPX-Navi 95 +11 25 98 || Haven 343 |
| GAMBIT nAts L vs. ACEND 93 +31 29 107 || Fracture 394 |
| LOUD aspas W vs. DRX 93 +26 27 100 || Pearl 366 |
| OPTIC Yay W vs. DRX 91 +31 23 102 || Haven 282 |
| LOUD Less L vs. EG 91 +14 26 105 || Pearl 326 |
| FNC Derke W vs. LOUD 91 +3 27 110 || Icebox 336 |
| FNC Leo W vs. LOUD 89 +21 23 110 || Ascent 329 |
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moatz -------> ยฏโ \โ _โ (โ ใโ )โ _โ /โ ยฏ
*The player's BEST-MAP during that same series of b05, in terms of scored ACS, is shown on the right side of the table.
**KMAX on the left side of the table was not always achieved during player's BEST-MAP.
Also, several TOP KMAX (max kills per map) scores ever achieved in S-TIERS:
Player/s KMAX
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xffero 38
Buzz 36
F1tinho/MarveD/boostio/bang 35
Derke/nAts/F1tinho/shao 34
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That should be all of the S-TIERS; however, if there are any errors or missing data, please let me know ๐ป
Edit: Typos/some additional information.
So in the post we read, "a simple combination of three different rating systems" - combined VLR/RIB/SPIKE.
But I will disagree with you, as I think keznit is not trash - in my world, unless you have a detailed way of defining what is trash. F knows, maybe a word "trash" means GOAT or similar in your world.
(Naรฏve) TOP 16 so far...
Note:
# PLAYER/s TOTAL # PLAYER/s TOTAL
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1 Demon1 42 9 Ethan 15
2 AAAAY/keznit 41 10 SUYGETSU 13
3 Cloud 36 11 Victor 12
4 Leo/aspas 33 12 something 10
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5 Alfajer 25 13 MrFaliN 9
6 whzy/Less 21 14 s0m 5
7 cauanzin 19 15 Jinggg/Sayaplayer 4
8 d4v41 17 16 cNed/jawgemo 3
Preceding step:
PLAYER SPIKE VLR RIB TOTAL || PLAYER SPIKE VLR RIB TOTAL
Demon1 16 16 10 42 || Ethan 10 5 0 15
AAAAY 15 10 16 41 || SUYGETSU 0 4 9 13
keznit 14 15 12 41 || Victor 5 6 1 12
Cloud 12 9 15 36 || something 0 2 8 10
aspas 9 11 13 33 || MrFaliN 2 7 0 9
Leo 8 14 11 33 || s0m 0 0 5 5
Alfajer 6 13 6 25 || Jinggg 4 0 0 4
Less 7 12 2 21 || Sayaplayer 0 0 4 4
whzy 13 1 7 21 || cNed 0 0 3 3
cauanzin 11 8 0 19 || jawgemo 3 0 0 3
d4v41 0 3 14 17 ||
Cheers ๐ป
Something to say ... My lengthy ass walls of text (not without of a good dose of cringe, ofc) have been noted as being extremely difficult to read - and I truly feel for those kids who can't read. However, I must admit that my "long ass text" approach helps me avoid my natural inclination for being highly toxic and prejudiced - and I am an extremely toxic/prejudiced person myself. As a result of writing all of those big ass paragraphs, I tend to persuade myself of a different point of view on the topic, and look for the actual rationale - it's never ending struggle here, in my office, ngl. Hopefully, one day, all (not just some) of the kids on VLR will become eager readers and join me in my quest for objective reality.
Also, there are many great and reasonable members on this site who have not been acknowledged... but they are fully aware of who they are. However, just a wee correction --> Qwertyy (who is also one of the few truly devoted C9 supporters) - spelt with double, "y"... also to highlight Danny's contribution who is also a very informative member himself, occasionally providing us with some of his takes on the matter. And more...
P.S. babysassuke is not always easy to decipher but is very well aware of things.
Edit: Holyyy... had to fix and add another "t" to Qwertyy, but then realised that there are two user Qwertyy/Qwerttyy ... ehh?
moatz - the MoatzART of VLR.
Ethan... but saadhak is pretty decent KAY/0 - especially during Americas 2023.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1657/valorant-champions-2023?exclude=&min_rounds=66&agent=kayo
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo?exclude=&min_rounds=61&agent=kayo
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo?exclude=&min_rounds=21&agent=kayo
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sadhaak Kayo during Americas 2023: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=kayo
Updated... There was also a slight problem reading the TABLE horizontally, thus the --> || sign was added to divide the tables, although the data reads for the same player... else, the table would not have fit correctly.
Who do you mean?
Those are only the top scorers per weapon category.
Edit: The chart is for the current Champions 2023 as of 20/08/2023 - not the all time data <3
PRX Something tops the chart with 12 shorty kills, the most shorty kills ever earned during an S-TIER event.... At this point, HE IS already regarded the BEST player TO EVER touch a shorty weapon on the S-TIER stage!
The chart below shows all of the leaders in their respective weapon categories in the ongoing tournament:
Team Player Weapon Kills || WTK %/WTK
LOUD Less Vandal 156 || 234 67%
EDG Haodong Phantom 112 || 182 62%
EDG ZmjjKK Operator 66 || 204 32%
LOUD Less Ghost 30 || 234 13%
LOUD Less Sheriff 27 || 234 12%
LOUD cauanzin Odin 22 || 207 11%
LOUD cauanzin Bulldog 20 || 207 10%
EG C0M Bulldog 20 || 128 16%
BLG Knight Frenzy 18 || 156 12%
EDG ZmjjKK Classic 15 || 204 7%
PRX d4v41 Spectre 14 || 138 10%
BLG rin Spectre 14 || 118 12%
PRX something Shorty 12 || 148 8%
FNC Alfajer Guardian 12 || 150 8%
BLG whzy Stinger 10 || 187 5%
BLG whzy Judge 16 || 187 9%
EDG ZmjjKK Marshal 6 || 204 3%
T1 Sayaplayer Marshal 6 || 94 6%
LOUD cauanzin Bucky 2 || 207 1%
' - WTK - weapons total kills
'' - Percentage out of weapons total kills
ALL-TIME PERSONAL RECORDS - Shorty Kills (S-TIER - 4+ Kills)
Team Player RND SHO-KILLS %
PRX Something 197 12 6.09
CR Zepher 87 5 5.75
ASE monk 101 4 3.96
VIT Twisten 104 4 3.85
NRG s0m 351 7 1.99
ZETA Laz 431 7 1.62
ZETA SugarZ3ro 431 7 1.62
T1 Carpe 302 4 1.32
EG C0M 401 5 1.25
EDG ZmjjKK 341 4 1.17
EG jawgemo 683 8 1.17
KC Nivera 346 4 1.16
TL Jamppi 453 5 1.10
PRX mindfreak 371 4 1.08
DRX Buzz 1718 17 0.99
PRX d4v41 913 9 0.99
FNC Alfajer 517 5 0.97
EDG Smoggy 633 6 0.95
FNC Derke 673 6 0.89
PRX f0rsakeN 887 7 0.79
PRX Jinggg 739 5 0.68
ALL-TIME TEAM RECORDS - Shorty Kills (S-TIER - 6+ Kills)
TEAM RND SHORTY-K %
PRX 3614 42 1.16
DRX 3782 24 0.63
EG 2168 18 0.83
FNC 2818 18 0.64
ZETA 954 15 1.57
NRG 804 11 1.37
EDG 974 10 1.03
TL 1061 10 0.94
T1 885 9 1.02
LOUD 1980 8 0.40
FPX 321 6 1.87
Edit: Added PERSONAL/TEAM ALL-TIME RECORDS for Shorty Weapon Kills.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this guy might actually be special
I-JUST-can't anymore ๐๐๐
No worries... <3 ๐ป
Another thing to note is that being big and strong, whether getting huge arms or in general, does not happen overnight - sure you understand this. You'd have to go and train for a long period of time. But, don't QUIT when you don't feel like exercising - these phases will arise along the way without any doubt. Instead, simply lower the intensity and perform lighter session/s. Do them even if it takes months to break out. I'm saying this because those big dudes you've seen in the gym or on the streets have most likely been lifting for a very long time - keep that in mind.
Also, like I indicated regarding your eating habits, consume natural foods with a decent mix of nutrients in your meals, and get into the habit of constant eating - don't worry too much if you skip, but try not to interrupt. And forget about any protein powder or 5 meal a day nonsense --> this has been taken out of context from professionals a long time ago ... Yes, there are times when you need uninterrupted flow of protein in your body, putting you into 5 meals regimen but it only applies to a way above - advance level athletes who are pros in bodybuilding or say, serious powerlifters who go through prep schedule <--- those kids are juicing๐
Now, I could have explained the exact concept underlying pro athletes overall nutrition intake's necessity +... , but that would have taken us well beyond the scope of our conversation. Seriously, just eat normal food and train hard. And don't forget that Natty physique also have limitation - those dudes on YouTube claiming to be NATTY are a bunch of pathetic FRAUDS making $$$ <-- trust me and don't chase the impossible๐
Good one ๐
"Ange1 from Navi was playing really well against us on Pearl, and I knew that if I aimed at him quickly, he would kill me. So, I waited for 3 seconds to aim and kill him, because he wouldn't expect that..." - this really rings the bell on his "waiting for 3 seconds to aim and kill" approach.
Less looks like very cool dude <-- roll us a giant ... I'm in ๐ป
Aye, I wanted to add him too but just threw in as "all players from China" line ... ๐ป
EDIT: Typos/foggy brain <--- reasons:
No, it's not a wrong place to ask about lifting.
You do choose one thing at a time and then rotate. I mean, you'd alternate between cutting (losing weight) and bulking (gaining weight) phases. When you bulk, you gain weight/muscles, and when you cut, you lose FAT but also some muscles - it's like taking two steps forward (bulking) and one step back (cutting) then --> REPEAT.
In this way, your abs will be clear during cutting phases, and you will gain muscle without worrying about abs during bulking phases. - There should be no visible abs during classic bulking periods as calories excess is present... By classic, I mean close to dirty bulking but with a moderate fat level intake. --> If you're wondering what dirty bulking is, it's eating anything, including pizzas, burgers, and anything with an excess of saturated fat.
Swimming is a good activity - I am a trained swimmer myself, btw. It wouldn't make you BIG, but it is still a good activity for overall health and during cutting - also playing football is not too bad for cutting but be careful with injuries.
BIG arms require a particular environment, such as what weight training" facilities provide, because after you go over a certain point, you'll need some HEAVY stuff to activate your growth. So, a membership will be an excellent start - I'm amazed you're even asking about this because it's one of the most important aspects of having BIG arms. Though it's a good thing you've started thinking about your options๐
Regarding your food, simply consume three normal meals every day and try not to skip the timetables, since your body watches your intakes as well. However, three GOOD meals, particularly RICH BREAKFAST - any first meal upon waking from long sleep, will enough. You could also add some more carbs. And forget about counting protein and rest of the BS - just get used to eating and keep normally eating, because it sounds to mee, you haven't begun eating properly. Also ABS will be out of the question <-- seriously quit SIMPING those abs, I mean it.
Some misconceptions:
inb4: My weight: 220lbs during cutting/up to 245lbs during bulking phase... Bodyfat: 11-14% range during cutting/up to 17% during bulking... Arms: last time measured around 18.5"
penor = humongous... I am mentioning this ONLY because my CANADIANS pugboy and his bf tomato211222 have asked on multiple occassions.
KID, there is no need for him to have a defensive team! It's not a F-ing court here and I questioned him about something I wanted him to talk about. PERIOD.
Holyyy... what do you want from me? I didn't even read what you had to say because you weren't present throughout my talk with pugboy, neither you were a part of my conversation with him here: https://www.vlr.gg/121275/controversial-opinion/#30 ... I was strictly talking to pugboy - not YOU, ffs! LMAO ... I just can't....GOOD morning CANADO!
Here's a cookie for you -๐ช... NOW, buzz OFF!
I can hear you whispering here, my LOVELY couple ๐๐ฟ
HERE I will repost, especially for you my, LOVELY and BULKY tomato .... but try but in detail and support your claims this time ...
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Don't lie, you weasel... If anything, we both know what I'm talking about; it's just that one of us doesn't want to confess it. Instead of regularly backing your ridiculous claims, you behave like a pitiful weasel... and this is not even for the first time.
I'll say it again, especially for you, ENGAGE in the TOPIC or GTFO! I don't care what you have to say on anything but the F-ING topic. SHOW me your knowledge, please, as I have doubts
Here, I'll help you to engage:
You: "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically" - GTFO! Reread my post #35 and elaborate on those claim you made.
You: "plus FNS is a way better caller - There is no proof to that, so I will let you out on this one.
You: "ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it Again, define micromanaging, so hopefully I and others could understand what do you mean and how to approach it from your point of you and how it affect team playstyle which essentially should lead to some success, I guess, right?
You: "I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain" Well, use your own brain and time - SHOW your workings --> as claims are too BIG, I'd say.
You: no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get out aimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world - You contradict to yourself here --> Yes, you get STOMPED landing deep in negative, if OUTPLAYED - again, you're with your BS here... HolyyyF
You: "and yet one player is still in Valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here" - How can you draw such parallel to conclude on the matter... ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? Are you saying that all those players who don't play S-TIER Valorant tourneys DESERVE it because they are bad? I don't see any rational behind your argument --> ELABORATE!
I can go forever like that... All you need is to explain yourself, which is frankly should not be a big of a deal. But for unknown reasons, it seems that it is a big deal for you. I mean, don't you have some data or simply some rational behind your takes?
I called you out on your BS, "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills. Even FNS outperforms Dephh mechanically" by linking to my old post, https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh - where Dephh was questioned about his capacity to perform, especially FNS vs. Dephh, and where you could clearly see that such accusations were always wrong and void of any appropriate evidence... from the below table ...
Name RD Rating ACS K/D ADR KPR APR DPR HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson 5683 1 197.9 1.02 129.8 0.7 0.27 0.68 24.60%
Pujan "FNS" Mehta 7190 0.86 179 0.9 117.5 0.62 0.26 0.68 20.60%
As well as this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion - where I already asked you to do the same damn thing as I'm asking you right now - A F-ING year+ later. Like WTF, kid? How many more times I should point out to your BS? Seriously, are you that incapable or what?
YET, your faรงade pathรฉtique has the audacity of calling me a 50 year old or something? ... Are you that desperate in having a father like figure in your life? Fine, you can call me DADDY --> now, back to your homework, son
P.S. What a CRINE af son - you are.
Edit: Added --> "What a CRINE af son - you are"
srly? tomato211222 you threw at me... why u do dis?
Right pugboy, we know that he is mad from pure facts?
Friendly fire then... what u doin ???
Stop throwing at me your toxic TOMATO ๐๐๐ Seriously LMAO!
I am CANADIAN too, you BISHHH ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ชต๐ช
Let's have some ORGY, right here ... get down already LMAO .... HolyF, what a CRINGE show ๐
Kid, just BUZZ OFF already!
Holyyyy... and take your boyfriend - rotten tomato211222 away from me! ... LMAO
WTF, bro?
Are you pugboy?
Please, just let things get back where they should be.
"The Team with dephh according to me was never built for success" - and that's OK as it's your opinion - however, there were many who still think that it was good enough. Let's not discuss that as it has nothing to do with the matter.
That was one thing.... another thing - pugboy knows very well what I am asking from him, but he's playing dumb... and I was basing my conversation strictly on his BS - not what said or anything regarding your takes, which make me wonder: "why do you bother?"
Oh, just in case, I am also CANADIAN,... please, don't let my SCOTTISH flag to mislead you --> I am not originally from the place/s I reside or will reside in the future.